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The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be.
    #7473416 - 10/01/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Back in my HS/College days, I used to be an avid daily toker...
It was almost a daily thing... Usually after work, (I worked in high school and college).. Then it became one of those ordeals where I smoked before I did anything, to make said activity more interesting...

Then after I got older, and started my career, smoking became an evening thing to help relax, and forget the day....
But, then it became more of an intrusion on my life. I began to notice that after I would smoke, I would become lazy and irritable and feel dumb... So I decided to stopped...

I quit for about a year, and then at a party, I had a chance to toke...
Well, I took a few hits and I instantly got way fucked up and didnt like it... It made me decide to put it down for good....

Fast forward about four years....

New life, new place, new setting...
For the previous 5 years, DXM was my new drug of choice. I did it as often as once a week. It was good to me for a while, but after my frequencey of use increased, and I realized I was using it as a form of escapism, I decided to give it a rest.

Since I have quit DXM, I have missed having a mind altering drug in my life.... I thought I would give mj a try again.
I have tried it a handful of times in the recent months...

The first couple of times I tried it, I just felt really anxious, and I couldn't relax. I felt guilty about getting back into it again, and got paranoid thinking "If I lose my job tomorrow, I'm fucked, I gotta wait until I'm clean to even interview, etc."

After a few weeks, I tried again, much less this time.

It seemed ok the past few times at first when I tried it ,but, Upon come up, it seems like I get these awesome inspirations, and ideas, and then I want to make some things happen, I want to "do" things... But this fades after a few minutes and I just feel like "blah".. It's hard to find the energy to get up. Walking up stairs makes me feel faint, and blood rushes to my head and gives me a low dull feeling...
Its like when I smoke pot, it makes me feel good for a few minutes, then I feel like shit until the next day....

What is this all about?


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: Fraggin]
    #7473443 - 10/01/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

im kinda the same way. i quit for 3 years bcuz of probation, and when i got off i smoked up. it was fire nugz too.
needless to say, it blew my mind, i had forgotten what a weed high felt like. i was a habitual smoker b4 probation, every 5 minutes i was smokin another blunt. this was just too much, i had to lay down, and was all paranoid....definately not cool and relaxing like i remember. so now i only smoke ocasionally...well last night at the bar, there was some live music, so i took a joint, but i was drunk, so i didnt feel the weed.

anyway, im rambling now, but if i smoke any, id rather be alone and let my mind do its thing. i lose motivation when i smoke also, and im a very active person, so this doesnt work well for me.

BTW, if youre getting good weeds, or if you or anyone you deal with knows anything about good weeds, try and get a sativa strain, its more of a heady high, instead of a couch lock high...good social smoke...


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: just me]
    #7473496 - 10/01/07 11:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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just me said:

BTW, if youre getting good weeds, or if you or anyone you deal with knows anything about good weeds, try and get a sativa strain, its more of a heady high, instead of a couch lock high...good social smoke...




I have heard this before, but knowing what I know of the industry, if someone is just trying to get your $$, they will tell you just about anything....

I know buds well enough to make determinations based on sight and smell. But To be able to determine whether I'm getting indica or sative, I would have to actually know the grower. U know what I mean?

Actually , what I have now, I have had for a long time. I bought a half of it probably a year ago.... And it's just brick weed. Seedy, skunky, mexican dirt weed most likely.

Anyway..
I don't really see myself getting back into this scene if this is what I can expect from thc.... I should prolly take Terrence McKenna's advice, and just smoke a shit load of weed in a dark closet and expect to do nothing.

I miss dxm more than anything.


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: just me]
    #7473534 - 10/01/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If I ever take a break I normally don't like it as much as I did when I first smoke. I always thought it was a comfortable familiar type of drug I can rely on. So if you don't want to smoke, don't do it, you don't need a substance in your life. If you do however, I'd suggest to just keep it up and in a few weeks or a month maybe after you get used to it again I think it will be like old times.


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: krypto2000]
    #7473864 - 10/01/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

most mexican brick is sativa luckily.

but yeah i know, w/out knowing the grower, its hard to trust dealers. everywhere i go its like oh i got dro, or krippy, or "white widow"...im like no, you got someones high/midgrade home grown...

either way, enjoy it, or dont...shell always be around waiting for ya


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: just me]
    #7474371 - 10/01/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

same here, mate
that's what weed is like
you gotta know, when to leave it alone


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: just me]
    #7474524 - 10/01/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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...well last night at the bar, there was some live music, so i took a joint, but i was drunk, so i didnt feel the weed.





actually i bet you DID feel the weed but the alcohol reduced the anxiety you get from weed enough that it didn't seem to effect you. just a thought. i don't know for sure!


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: Fraggin]
    #7474551 - 10/01/07 04:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

how do people not feel the weed high when they're drunk? I definitely notice, no matter how fucked up i am.


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: Limerick]
    #7474674 - 10/01/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

nah, i didnt really feel anything...aparently i got pretty fucked up last night...or so i was told


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: just me]
    #7475234 - 10/01/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Generally, weed makes me high for 30-60 minutes, then I feel kind of lazy and out of it for a while (basically until something mentally stimulating happens). It's not really that bad for me.


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7475699 - 10/01/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thats the reason why I don't smoke all that often. I feel guilty and stupid, and when people see me I feel embarrassed.


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: Seventy]
    #7476560 - 10/02/07 07:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

don't smoke until 8 o clock. the blah feeling/burn out will come around when you are ready to hit the sack. you'l wake up feeling wounderful.


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: Fraggin]
    #7476740 - 10/02/07 09:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I believe this is due to set and setting. You're not the same person you were when you first smoked. Your mindset is different and Cannabis has a negative reaction with it. This happens to some people the first time they smoke, every time they smoke, sometimes, never, etc.

I loved weed when I first began using it because I was so immersed in the experience. My friends were also experimenting and loved it, I had no major problems (money, grades, etc) and never really feared arrest or faced any negative reactions from people who knew I used. These things changed eventually. It wasn't so much external factors as it was my mindset. I couldn't risk the police at my house, even though the chance of detection was less from before because I became more careful. I was around people who weren't really into drugs, or had long stopped using cold turkey. I had many plans/projects that I was working on. I was just generally depressed about life -- the side effects of newspapers.

Pot wasn't the only psychedelic to cause these effects. Minus the uppers and downers, almost every drug did. Alcohol made me feel guilty and stupid and I would eventually get so worked up that even nitrous began making me too anxious to be comfortable. I find this to be a good challenge to learn how to let go and be in the present moment but other than for this 'training,' the appeal is gone for me until I have some things straightened out in my life (I.e., move to Amsterdam). After learning to Just Let Go, it's not so bad anymore.

As you get older, set and setting become a hell of a lot more important. A mid-life crisis is like a bad trip. I use the term to mean that you've looking back at your life and realizing how many mistakes you've made and probably how little you've accomplished or how your life somewhere took a bad turn and you've spent the last decades doing something you have nothing much to show for, or don't enjoy. I can't imagine a 40 year old factory worker going home and having a good time on any psychedelic unless he has accepted his life situation or has accomplished the goals he set forth to in his youth (he dreamed of working in that factory).

The drug itself didn't change, but you certainly did. Let's try to find the problem here. Why were you using DXM to escape? Why do you 'need' drugs? What about other hobbies?


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: Quake3]
    #7476804 - 10/02/07 09:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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The drug itself didn't change, but you certainly did. Let's try to find the problem here. Why were you using DXM to escape? Why do you 'need' drugs? What about other hobbies?




Correct. I did change. In 2002 my wife became pregnant with our first child. Before his birth, I spent time getting our microcosm ready for new life. This included cleaning up a bit. I decided it was best to get all illegal aspects out of my life. I quit the MJ....

Fast forward 9 months, and I'm in a new City, developing my career, making 2x the salary I was before I moved. I had decided that my newborn child deserved more than the mediocre life I had to offer at the moment, so, I made the move to a bigger city to make more money.

I began using dxm long before I quit smoking MJ, and continued to use DXM occasionally after my son was born. It was acceptable to me because it was an OTC drug, not illegal, I didnt have to bring undesireable people into my life to attain it, and the chances of it getting me in trouble with the law were nil.

After I settled into a comfy job, my occasional dxm trip became using DXM to escape a boring routine.

As far as why I need drugs.... Well, I've been in therapy for 3 years and have been trying to better myself. I have clinical depression and I was taking Lexapro for a year, and I didnt like myself on it because my happiness was bacially malformed content which just made me feel like I didnt really care about much of anything. So I decided to stop...
I have many things to be thankful for, but I find it difficult to experience happiness in any of these things. I suppose thats why I feel like I need drugs....

And as far as hobbies, I have a few. R/C airplanes, Wood-working, Home-Remodeling. However, my wife is working nights, so I have to take care of my 4yr old son. i.e. prepping him for school, breakfast, dropping off at daycare, picking him up in the evenings, cooking dinner for him, bathing him, reading him bedtime stories, putting him to bed. This only leaves about two hours between 9pm and my bedtime to myself.


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: just me]
    #7477831 - 10/02/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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try and get a sativa strain, its more of a heady high, instead of a couch lock high...good social smoke...



mmmmm i love couch lock :bongload:


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: xpl0de]
    #7478058 - 10/02/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, sometimes it's really nice to come home, smoke, and sit on your house for hours listening to that same album. Sure, it sounds boring, but it's a nice way to relax after work, homework etc. Plus, it makes you sleep like a baby :laugh:


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: Pootmaster]
    #7479836 - 10/03/07 06:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

poot you smokin some good shit if youre sittin on your house...haha

it is nice to have some time set aside to smoke one, and become one with the couch, album, video game, etc. but the older i get, the more i want to do something productive ALL the time. its killin me that my lawn mower is broke. im about to go cut my lawn with scissors...wish me luck


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Re: The ol' MJ ain't what she used to be. [Re: just me]
    #7479992 - 10/03/07 08:06 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

good luck, that has to suck


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