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Re: Putin signals plan to hold onto power [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7502914 - 10/09/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

> A: The Constitution of Russia, like that of France, Germany, Austria, China and Japan, forbids extradition of its citizens to foreign countries

A very misleading (almost to the point of inaccurate) comparison.


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Re: Putin signals plan to hold onto power [Re: zorbman]
    #7502915 - 10/09/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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zorbman said:
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I believe Gazprom bullied Ukraine by threatening to cut oil supplies




The bullying is blatantly obvious to anyone but Putin apologists like DiscoCat. But he thinks Putin is a genius.

I think I am going to get him a Putin poster to put over his bed. :grin:




This is really funny in light of my posting the order of events for The_Red_Crayon. It reveals that you didn't know anything about it, but were desperate enough to deliver a jab that you assumed someone else had their facts straight enough and so jumped on the wagon.


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You still haven't commented on Putin appointing his former classmate as the investigator and prosecutor in the journalist's murder investigation.

Does that not concern you at all?

Oh, I forgot. Putin can do no wrong. :smirk:




This is also funny. It appears as though you are riding a high, feeling smug after your last faux pas, still believing the wagon you're riding is a sound one.
I actually commented on that far back.

The smirk is the finishing touch.


Well, I think that's enough for me. Enjoy yourselves!


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Re: Putin signals plan to hold onto power [Re: Seuss]
    #7502923 - 10/09/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Seuss said:
> A: The Constitution of Russia, like that of France, Germany, Austria, China and Japan, forbids extradition of its citizens to foreign countries

A very misleading (almost to the point of inaccurate) comparison.




So you're saying those other countries don't forbid extradition of their own citizens?
Clarify that, if you will, please, even tho it's besides the point concerning Russia's own law.
While I didn't read their constitutions, Wikipedia provided the comparison and the Russian constitution along with it.


Edited by Disco Cat (10/09/07 08:17 PM)


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Re: Putin signals plan to hold onto power [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7502953 - 10/09/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Weren't you the same poster who was defending Ahmadinejad as well, You sure seem to love defending despotism, and quit acting like you scored some trivial point over us. Just because you regurgitate bullshit doesn't mean its anymore credible.

To me its completely obvious Putin is a despot, as well as Ahmadinejad, I guess for some its hard to see that.


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Re: Putin signals plan to hold onto power [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #7502991 - 10/09/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Weren't you the same poster who was defending Ahmadinejad as well, You sure seem to love defending despotism, and quit acting like you scored some jovial point over us. Just because you regurgitate bullshit doesn't mean its anymore credible.

To me its completely obvious Putin is a despot, as well as Ahmadinejad, I guess for some its hard to see that.




Scored points? No, that's tres lame. That's what I was just calling zorb on visibly doing.
I defended Ahmadinejad only as far as the public facts go. A lot of the antagonism against him is sentiment based, not logic based, just like Putin obviously being a despot to you, and your denounciation of the cold, hard, researchable, verifiable, facts as bullshit, just coz it showed your position was unsound, is sentiment based, not logic based.


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Re: Putin signals plan to hold onto power [Re: Seuss]
    #7502996 - 10/09/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Seuss said:
> A: The Constitution of Russia, like that of France, Germany, Austria, China and Japan, forbids extradition of its citizens to foreign countries

A very misleading (almost to the point of inaccurate) comparison.




Nope, nothing misleading about it. I just verified individually (apart from China, didn't come across information either way) that each of these nation's constitutions deny the extradition of their citizens.


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Re: Putin signals plan to hold onto power [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7503006 - 10/09/07 08:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well i just scanned an old post and you remarked how the hanging of the two gays was because they were convicted of rape, this is completely wrong I remembered when it happened and still have the picture set from all those years.

Iran routinely hangs homosexuals, something you deny and something that is widely a fact, this is besides the point because Saudia Arabia and numerous other arab states execute homosexuals as well, but the fact you would deny this is ridiculous.

Sorry to get off tangent, back onto Russia.


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Re: Putin signals plan to hold onto power [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #7503049 - 10/09/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wrong, I don't deny it, I don't know much about it, but I deny that case as being an example, and of it having anything to do with demostrating that Ahmadinejad is a monster (as that case was the working of citizens, and Ahmadinejad certainly did not invent or alter homosexual persecution for his nation) - another sentiment based assault.
In that case you are mentioning, research will show that the charge for which they were hanged was rape. But that's gotta be wrong, coz you remember when it happened?
Bump that thread or pm me if you have more to say on that.


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Re: Putin signals plan to hold onto power [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7503578 - 10/09/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Then you asked how [nationalization] benefits the country as opposed to privatization, and so I plainly explained.




You have made a pretty feeble effort to explain it. You just made a basically naked assertion that state management of resources is superior to private sector management. A quick survey of history should demonstrate to anyone that bureaucracies are rarely as efficient as the private sector. You would think the former Soviet Union would have learned that lesson by now but old habits die hard.

Also, please address how it is proper that Putin has appointed his former classmate to oversee the investigation and prosecution of the assassinated journalist who criticized him.

Is this any way to run an honest investigation?


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Edited by zorbman (10/10/07 09:34 AM)


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