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Country1
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: trebor]
#10329068 - 05/12/09 07:56 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for digging up a year old thread. Salvia is fun as hell. I've tripped on it 30+ times and have never had a bad trip.
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trebor
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: Country1]
#10329193 - 05/12/09 08:18 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Country1 said: Thanks for digging up a year old thread. Salvia is fun as hell. I've tripped on it 30+ times and have never had a bad trip.
Amazing, I wish that I could!
My mood, set and setting were all ideal.
It really bugs me, like WTF, I'm an old experienced LSD DMT Mesc. Psylo, astronaut. I'm happy and have everything in life going for me! What the hell is wrong?
Did you go through an identity blackout where you couldn't reason?
How strong was your salvia, and how long did you hold in the first hit?
I may just have to find something else to explore my inner space, but I will try again, working up with very low dosage levels.. Salvia is so cheap and easy to get, it's a shame if I can't tolerate and enjoy it!...LOL!
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: StreetFreak]
#10329220 - 05/12/09 08:23 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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With salvia, I feel as though my body is trying to escape or run away from this extreme force, but i'm not ACTUALLY scared. it's like I have no control over my fear, and it feels sorta fake. Slavia is fuckin weird! I feel that with mushrooms, you're able to rationalize and conceptualize. This can make mushrooms more genuinely freaky when you get nervous. you're able to think about the bad thoughts, dwell on them, then manifest a scary reality. With salvia, my mind is too FUCKED OFF THIS PLANET! hehe! I dunno, maybe I have a false sense of security... Myk
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: Mykologist]
#10329284 - 05/12/09 08:33 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I got a black eye falling into a table on salvia once. But I was on a little bit of k too so it's my fault not the salvia's.
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: trebor]
#10329802 - 05/12/09 09:43 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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i smoked salvia plenty of times and i love it. i always have some just for when the right time comes. never had a bad trip but as in bizarre shit yea plenty. nothing i would consider a bad trip though
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Country1
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: EL DOC]
#10329829 - 05/12/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've smoked 60x and 80x. 60x for my first time then 80x all the other times. Half the time i'm not in a good setting but I don't do salvia for the mystical spiritual adventure I normally just do it to get fucked up. If I want to go on a true mind bending nature trip i'll stick to LSD or mush.
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Re: How traumatizin can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: SapphireCat]
#10330057 - 05/12/09 10:32 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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SapphireCat said: i don't think you can really sort salvia in good and bad. They're all very intense experiences and all you can do is experience.
Well said. I don't find it enjoyable in the least, but its definitely intense and worth trying at least once.
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Re: How traumatizin can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: skunkape]
#10331080 - 05/13/09 05:39 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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too many people have no idea about dosage. salvia is non-toxic so most people take way too much way too much find your sweet spot and most convenient method of smoking. well maybe that is too demanding for you if so choose another vehicle. this one is not incompatible with your life style.
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Re: How traumatizin can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: redgreenvines]
#10331095 - 05/13/09 05:45 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Salvia is still the only drug that has given me a full blown, "where the fuck am I?" OOBE.
I haven't had a DMT breakthrough yet though.
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: trebor]
#10331102 - 05/13/09 05:49 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Honestly, if you smoke it right, take it all in one big hit and hold it as long as you can, you won't even be conscious enough to be scared. I don't get how people can freak out when they're not even in this dimension anymore.
I was afraid of salvia too until I broke through completely, which I thought I had already done. If you only take enough to screw up your though process and make the room morph a bit, you didn't do enough or you bought shitty salvia. I'd say try to get at least 20x and smoke it out of a bong. Take the biggest hit you can and hold it for as long as possible, no hesitation. Hesitation is the only thing that holds people back, and that hesitation and nervousness is what causes bad trips.
Don't be afraid to dive into the deep end!
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: LSDaytripper]
#10331121 - 05/13/09 05:55 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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that's the thing, at least in my case it was like, "oh fuck im stuck in this dimension"
it didnt help that the entity skipped me as he was letting my fellow travellers leave
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: druqs]
#10331782 - 05/13/09 10:56 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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mycelismymind said: its not a party drug, but even a horrible experience will only last 15minutes tops. .
wrong.
i had a salvia experience that lasted a couple hours, and was intense as hell. it was definitely a unique experience.
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#10332037 - 05/13/09 12:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tried Salvia for the first time two weeks ago. It was either 15 or 20x, from a bong. I had read a lot of trip reports beforehand, and I thought I was prepared, but as soon as I exhaled, all my preparation was irrelevant.
I went into some kind of dream state left over from my childhood. I didn't understand what was happening to me, I couldn't remember anything that I had read about Salvia. I basically forgot about the entire concept of drugs in general. I was frozen in an awkward crouching position, halfway between my couch and my coffee table, and there were brightly colored pixels running up and down the outline of my body. Feeling panicked and unable to move was a common motif in my childhood nightmares, and this felt very reminiscent of that. I kept asking my boyfriend where I was and what was happening to me. He told me that I had smoked Salvia. I felt very lost and childish, asking him what Salvia was, and why I had smoked it. He finally helped me get unstuck and into a reclining position on the couch. At that point the experience changed for the better, and I just listened to music and got lost in my own thoughts for the rest of the peak.
At first I was terrified, but as I started to return to reality I decided that I really liked it, and I would definitely do it again. I haven't yet, but I plan to in the near future, when my mind is clear enough. Also, I was listening to the new Animal Collective album during my trip. Since then, I've been listening to it a lot on my iPod, and it keeps bringing me back into a mild trance.
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: Psilobuds]
#10332113 - 05/13/09 12:27 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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you jut have to have the smarts to figure it all out when you takeing the dose ive never beed on a bod one with her she is a great goddess and with thought and understanding we should all figure it out under the grand microscope
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: warchild]
#10332238 - 05/13/09 12:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here's me from another thread:
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I thought i was a shape in the room in which i was sitting, and that the room was a compartment of existence attached to a wall that was lined with an infinite number of other identical compartments. This wall stretched off into the abyss forever, and I thought that existence was, and always had been this strange spinning and interlocking of shapes trapped in an endless time-loop.
Pretty ridic.
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: warchild]
#10332321 - 05/13/09 01:08 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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warchild said: you jut have to have the smarts to figure it all out when you takeing the dose ive never beed on a bod one with her she is a great goddess and with thought and understanding we should all figure it out under the grand microscope
"The smarts to figure it out?"...WTF?
Every ones body and tolerance is different, and ones tolerance can vary from hour to hour and day to day. Salvia seems to have a reverse tolerance in that it takes less to trip you out two hours after the first trip!
For me, it was just one deep inhalation of 10x held 30 seconds. On exhaling, the last thought I had was,
"Oh hell, this is to strong, I screwed up".....
................" Don't Fight it"..................
Oh Yea Sure!..LOL....If you were able to reason enough to tell yourself that, then you wouldn't be in trouble!...ROFL!
The thing to remember with salvia( for me anyway!) is once you've lost identity of who you are, and where you are,.. You Are Not Able to Reason or Think!!!
You just want it to stop, but you can't force it to stop...You Are Helpless, and the two minutes seems like an eternity of permanent insanity! Example. I couldn't even think to ask The Lord for help!
The deep two or three minute salvia trip is Absolute Reality to you! There is no..." oh this is only a trip" BS, it's Real and you are trapped here forever!....
That's what the survival part of your brain is Screaming at you....There is no evasive action to take....Your Screwed!
Obviously The Lord was on the job anyway...LOL
Even on my strongest acid trips,( 500Mcs and plus of Owsley) I never lost my identity or ability to think and reason!...The one time that acid started to be to much for me to handle, I reached into my pocket and grabed the two 10Mg Valium pills and took them. I was back to calmness in ten minutes!
With Salvia, You Can't Even think To Do that, You Cannot Reason!
Every part of your mind is gone except the little self preservation part that is screaming in terror and saying I want it to stop!
My two really bad salvia trips was one 30Sec. inhalation on 10x with an amount equal to what would cover my pinky fingernail!...
Shoot, other folks take five and ten times that amount, so individual sensitivity to salvia apparently is greatly varied
I hope to be able to work past this into good salvia trips by low level doses held perhaps for only seven or ten seconds. Will keep 'yall informed on my progress...LOL!
Cheers!
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: trebor]
#10332351 - 05/13/09 01:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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i really wonder if the experience with 40x and above is qualitatively different from 20x. i cant imagine how the trip can be more whacked out than what 15 and 20x have done to me
Edited by DroneLore (05/13/09 01:13 PM)
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#10332522 - 05/13/09 01:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I AM SWIM said:
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mycelismymind said: its not a party drug, but even a horrible experience will only last 15minutes tops. .
wrong.
i had a salvia experience that lasted a couple hours, and was intense as hell. it was definitely a unique experience.
What the fuck?
What strength was the extract?
What else were you on?
Was it at least dreamy, where two hours went by in minutes to you?
Sorry about all the questions.
I totally believe you, as I have heard other people swear to the same thing.
I would just like to know why it lasted that long for you, so I can avoid or possibly recreate your experience.
I have done Salvia upwards of a hundred times, and it usually always lasts a few short minutes.
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
#10332880 - 05/13/09 03:11 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Swyfty Swyf said:
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I AM SWIM said:
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mycelismymind said: its not a party drug, but even a horrible experience will only last 15minutes tops. .
wrong.
i had a salvia experience that lasted a couple hours, and was intense as hell. it was definitely a unique experience.
What the fuck?
What strength was the extract?
What else were you on?
Was it at least dreamy, where two hours went by in minutes to you?
Sorry about all the questions.
I totally believe you, as I have heard other people swear to the same thing.
I would just like to know why it lasted that long for you, so I can avoid or possibly recreate your experience.
I have done Salvia upwards of a hundred times, and it usually always lasts a few short minutes.
Did you At Least have some Valium ( a Benzo) or Thorazine in your pocket for an emergency?
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Re: How traumatizing can a bad Salvia trip be? [Re: trebor]
#10333049 - 05/13/09 03:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hell no.
What would I need that for?
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