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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: I want to die [Re: El Zorro]
    #7482485 - 10/03/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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It can be extremely overwhelming and scary if you don't know what your getting yourself into.





If you have no ego, there is no one to be scared.




Exactly, If "you" are thinking this is death then you still have your ego.
If you are afraid, you have not reached ego death.
You can experience a loss of center or a loss of perception of your body, but that is not it either.
If you have any thoughts at all, then you have not reached ego death.

Ego death is nothingness. you can't know it when it happens, only after.
It can be terrifying when your ego first returns to you and you don't know who you are yet.

I've been there several times and I prefer to tripping to nothingness.





Like I said in my earlier post, I didn't know what had happened to me until very recently. That trip was almost 6 months ago. Now if you are having no thoughts, and there is absolutely nothing, how would one ever know if they experienced it or not? Even after you came out of it, you would have no recollection of what just happened, because you had no thoughts, right?


I wasn't thinking this is death, I was beyond the point of realizing reality and any human concepts, but I still had thoughts. The thought that I didn't know what was going on was rapidly occurring somewhere in my head, mind you I had never heard of ego death.

I remember thoughts like; what the fuck is happening to me, and I accepted the fact that my life was over and that was it. Everything was pointless and it didn't matter if I ever snapped out of it. You can say I didn't experience it, but I believe I did. I wasn't scared during all of this, because like I said, I couldn't grasp concepts. I just said "it can be" extremely scary and overwhelming. I had no choice but to accept the feeling and go with it, and I'm sure if you do reach this point, you wouldn't be scared. I couldn't tell you how long it lasted for, except the fact that when I came out of it, I didn't know what had happened. I just figured it was in correlation to the dosage we took.


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Re: I want to die [Re: MindGorilla]
    #7483254 - 10/03/07 11:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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MindGorilla said:
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El Zorro said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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It can be extremely overwhelming and scary if you don't know what your getting yourself into.





If you have no ego, there is no one to be scared.




Exactly, If "you" are thinking this is death then you still have your ego.
If you are afraid, you have not reached ego death.
You can experience a loss of center or a loss of perception of your body, but that is not it either.
If you have any thoughts at all, then you have not reached ego death.

Ego death is nothingness. you can't know it when it happens, only after.
It can be terrifying when your ego first returns to you and you don't know who you are yet.

I've been there several times and I prefer to tripping to nothingness.





I remember thoughts like; what the fuck is happening to me, and I accepted the fact that my life was over and that was it. Everything was pointless and it didn't matter if I ever snapped out of it. You can say I didn't experience it, but I believe I did. I wasn't scared during all of this, because like I said, I couldn't grasp concepts. I just said "it can be" extremely scary and overwhelming. I had no choice but to accept the feeling and go with it, and I'm sure if you do reach this point, you wouldn't be scared. I couldn't tell you how long it lasted for, except the fact that when I came out of it, I didn't know what had happened.




What is happening to "ME"
"MY" life was over


See all the ego in that?

"When I came out of it I didn't know what happened."

I believe you are saying the same thing as me.
It's just very hard to explain without using the first person.
First person = ego


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