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OfflineDBgameace
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I want to die
    #7472546 - 10/01/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ego Death. I have yet to experience it and I was hoping for a few tips on how to help it along. I tripped before and I'm familiar with the effects, so I'm not to worried about freaking out, but i've never taken more than about 2 grams.

Also i'm debating whether to eat these in 1 or 2 doses, I've heard its easier to "induce" ego death at higher doses (don't have a scale though :frown: )

I have some dried ones and a single, decent sized fresh one.



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Re: I want to die [Re: DBgameace]
    #7472568 - 10/01/07 12:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

in relative terms of ego death, 2grams is not much.


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Re: I want to die [Re: Psy Baba]
    #7472638 - 10/01/07 01:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I did not experience what I would say ego is loss but only once at four grams, and this was by no means full ego death. I can't really give you any advice on how to get to ego death other than taking more.

I can't see meditating hurting by any means.

edit: how many times have you tripped? I would not rush into trying to transcend your ego without much experience and preparation. It can be a very terrifying experience if you are unprepared.


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Re: I want to die [Re: krypto2000]
    #7472719 - 10/01/07 01:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That's not true. You don't need "preparation" to have an ego death. :rolleyes:


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Re: I want to die [Re: DBgameace]
    #7472739 - 10/01/07 02:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ego death is a term thats thrown about wayyy too often in the psychedelic community.

You can reach a state of detachment on pretty much any dose if you're willing to let go. 2 grams and a deep long meditation will certainly help if you want to experience nothingness (in all its terrifying euphoric beauty) :grin:


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Re: I want to die [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7472763 - 10/01/07 02:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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That's not true. You don't need "preparation" to have an ego death. :rolleyes:




No, I was not saying you need preparation to experience it, but that you would want to prepare your self by reading up on it and having more experience with tripping in general. It can be extremely overwhelming and scary if you don't know what your getting yourself into.

Again, I don't claim to have experienced ego death, so I'm sure other members could have more useful advice than I.


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Re: I want to die [Re: krypto2000]
    #7472771 - 10/01/07 02:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think you're ever "prepared" for an ego death. Especially the first. :shrug:


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Re: I want to die [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7472778 - 10/01/07 02:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think you're ever "prepared" for an ego death. Especially the first. :shrug:




I can't really say I'd argue with that. When I experienced what I believe to be ego loss, that was by far the most terrified I have ever been in my life. I can't describe the fear I felt, I was in a really great mindset going into the trip too. I can't imagine how complete ego death would be.


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Re: I want to die [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7472782 - 10/01/07 02:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

When you use the term "ego-death", does that mean a state where you perceive things but you are not aware of your own sentience? That seems how it is being used, I could be wrong though.

Ego as far as I understand has to do with pride and personal will.


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Re: I want to die [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7472800 - 10/01/07 02:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think there are stages of what one might call ego death.
For me it is when I just don't have any notion of "myself" anymore.


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Re: I want to die [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7472930 - 10/01/07 04:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have actually come close (I think, who really knows) but never quite able to achieve It. I have tripped probably about 8 times. I usually meditate before I eat them and while i'm coming up I just relax, eat, drink, and watch things breath. After about an hour I lie down close, my eyes and think about the universe, perception, reality, and stuff like that. After that i find it too difficult to clear my thoughts to really meditate, I usually just end up watching the CEVs. Also, as I don't a scale scale the 2 grams was a rough estimate. A couple times had vomited half way threw eating them... lame. The first time I tripped I really had no idea how many I took and I believe that was the closest to ego death I have ever come.


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Re: I want to die [Re: DBgameace]
    #7473089 - 10/01/07 08:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I never had an ego death from shrooms but I had many from Salvia. heres what it is.....
When it rips you from your body and it is very real at the time and you forget you smoked Salvia and you think your body just died and that you are passing on and you have to let go of your life here and all your friends and loved ones.


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Re: I want to die [Re: Cepheus]
    #7473313 - 10/01/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Cepheus said:
Ego death is a term thats thrown about wayyy too often in the psychedelic community.

You can reach a state of detachment on pretty much any dose if you're willing to let go. 2 grams and a deep long meditation will certainly help if you want to experience nothingness (in all its terrifying euphoric beauty) :grin:




Really good point. It is far more complex than what people are saying on the Internet. It happens on many different levels. It is also personal and different for many people. To say "I want ego death" is a statement that carries little meaning unless you go though a taking apart of it. Be careful what you wish for.


Why do you want egodeath? So you can gloat about it on the Shroomery? Once you are in mushroom space you will see what a goofy statement like "I want egodeath" is...


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Re: I want to die [Re: cpw1971]
    #7473333 - 10/01/07 10:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

My first trip ever (1/8 of some REALLY potent shrooms) I had what I believe to be complete ego death (no sense of self, reality, even the idea of being an individual made no sense to me, was more feeling the "universal consciousness" vibe) but I've never had anything close to it sense then.  I've eaten many an eighth of shrooms to the face since then as well as quite a few hits of potent LSD (never more than 3 hits tho) and I still haven't come close to that experience.  At the time it was just crazy as fuck and actually freaked me out pretty hard (quit drugs for a while), but now that I have a bit more experience under my belt I think I should be able to appreciate it more.  My next trip will probably be a large amount of LSD (4+ hits of some really nice blotter) or 5+ grams of some nice shroomies.  I'm crossing my fingers and hoping both of those will be able to get me there :eek:


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Re: I want to die [Re: Mourningdove]
    #7473607 - 10/01/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Actually one of the very reasons I want to experienece ego death IS so I can gloat about on the shroomery. It's nothing of a spiritual nature, just something I can put on my throphy shelf and say I did.


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Re: I want to die [Re: DBgameace]
    #7473682 - 10/01/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

After reading through the replies I've decided that experience is more important than dose size so I'm only eating half of what I have. I also realize that ego death will happen when you're ready for it to, but I don't think its wrong to want to experience it or to ask for tips to create an enviroment that would allow for it to happen more easily. Thanks for all the input, I'm going to continue to perfect my meditating method, and to skroomadom, I wish you the best of luck.


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Re: I want to die [Re: DBgameace]
    #7474426 - 10/01/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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DBgameace said:
Ego Death. I have yet to experience it and I was hoping for a few tips on how to help it along. I tripped before and I'm familiar with the effects, so I'm not to worried about freaking out, but i've never taken more than about 2 grams.

Also i'm debating whether to eat these in 1 or 2 doses, I've heard its easier to "induce" ego death at higher doses (don't have a scale though :frown: )

I have some dried ones and a single, decent sized fresh one.






Take a couple whippets at the peak of the trip. Learning to meditate can help too.


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Re: I want to die [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #7474944 - 10/01/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What's a whippet?


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Re: I want to die [Re: krypto2000]
    #7474964 - 10/01/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

A cartridge of Nirtous Oxide (laughing gas) sold as whip cream propellant. You get a cracker and a balloon or if you have money a whip cream dispenser (nitrous bong) and inhale the gas and hold it ten seconds. If you do two (at once or back to back) you get a 20 second or so ego loss/out of body experience. It works wonders on psychedelics if you need to break through. Look it up on erowid.


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Re: I want to die [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #7475312 - 10/01/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I've experienced Ego Loss. Complete loss of consciousness and reality.


I was also on 8 grams and had no clue what I was experiencing at the time. Only until like a week ago did I know what happened to me.


Now my friend who was also on 8 g's, well his Ego Loss was a little bit more extreme. I was able to snap out of mine and grasp reality, he couldn't do that.


Be forewarned, be careful what you wish for. It is an extremely overwhelming experience, also extremely confusing. I wouldn't suggest trying to make it happen, unless you know your absolutely ready on a mental state.

In all honesty not everyone can handle such an experience, like I said in some of my other post. I was so "fucked" up in my mind, it was easier to accept the fact that life was over, then figure anything else out. Now if you think you can handle something like that, here is some ways to do it without meditating.


I suggest more then a 1/8, if your serious about it.
Sit in one spot, don't move around, don't play games, don't watch tv. Just sit there and think.

and if your really daring, sit in the dark with no lights. You'll be chillin in the void, then when you start to peak, hasta la vista baby.


Edited by MindGorilla (10/01/07 08:11 PM)


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