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Is nicotine the most addicting drug
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In the world? Or heroin?
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Krystal Klear]
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I believe opiates are #1
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Psy Baba]
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I don't see what is so appealing about nicotine, it isn't even mind-altering in the least.
I consider crack to be the most addictive.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Krystal Klear]
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i'd say meth
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: meatcakeman]
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What's the drug where using it for three days will get you hooked?
I probably phrased that horribly incorrectly
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Crystal G]
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crack is only really addicting after you take the first hit of the day nicotine i think is more because it does nothing to you and you still want it and heroin does something to you
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: ajdaak]
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ajdaak said: crack is only really addicting after you take the first hit of the day nicotine i think is more because it does nothing to you and you still want it and heroin does something to you
can you rephrase that i don't get it
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Crystal G]
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Crack is short term addicting to me. Its not that apeealing to me until the first hit.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Krystal Klear]
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Krystal Klear]
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Seems to me people build up an addiction rate for the same drugs at different paces.
I think what is most addictive is more of a personal thing.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Acaterpillar]
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Crack is the only drug the scares me because when I smoke it I jsut hit it and hit it and hit it. I will smoke a bowl of meth and be cool for 6 hours. Crack just fucking sucks, there is never enough.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Krystal Klear]
#7472641 - 10/01/07 01:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well Opiates are not addictive for me, I do them in moderation with no problem. But smoking cig's is another story,when I work I smoke a lot keeps me movin' (home office)
I should probably quit but when you have tons of $$ it's hard to quit any addiction, it only makes the addiction worse. which is somewhat of a problem to those who gain money and have "addictions" even when they were poor
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: PriitK]
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masterbation is the most addictive drug, purhaps the act of such things is not a drug, but it causes the realease of them.
Go a month without sex or masterbation, and you will truly know withdrawl.
girls might not count in this, because they have 10 orgasms for every one of ours, so they can hold out longer.
example would be smoke 10 cigs...your not gunna need/want any for a while.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7472662 - 10/01/07 01:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh and i just realized this "happy drug" that gets released, its the only drug out their that we physically beat ourselfs to obtain.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: meatcakeman]
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: FecalDildo]
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LOL, you've never done meth have you?
again, meth culture in the USA is completely different from what it is like in australia--there are many different aspects to consider too and not just one, because it has nothing to do with potency. I could go into the logistics of it all for you, but I just took xanax after not having it for days so I will be hitting bed now.
somebody remind me tomorrow.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Krystal Klear]
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sugar / caffeine.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Cepheus]
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ever try to take a can of soda away from a 6-12 year old?
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Acaterpillar]
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I think what is most addictive is more of a personal thing.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: OMniversal]
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actually for me video games have been the most overpowering addication i have EVER had. infact its ruining my life no joke
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: OMniversal]
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I think what is most addictive is more of a personal thing.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
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The only reason nicotine is considered more addictive than other substances is because it's widely available and staring all of us in the face at every gas station and every grocery store and every department store in the good ol' U.S. of A.
I've done a lot of cocaine, smoked my fair share of crack, snorted and smoked heroin, and smoked and snorted meth, and I've yet to get addicted to any of those. If I shot any of those, it'd probably be different.
Nicotene is the only thing that hooked me, but I started at an early age when my mind was still impressionable (14).
From what I've seen in other people, Heroin is the most physically addictive while Crack or Meth is more mentally addictive. Though I never had a problem with any of them.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Helixx]
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i agree it clearly is a personal thing, some people can quite cigerettes with the snap of a finger, while others can't live without them
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: OMniversal]
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A college professor I once had did a study on this very thing with lab rats. He gave them every addictive drug you can think of like nicotine, heroin, morphine, alcohol, cocaine, methamphetamine, benzos, caffeine, sugar, and probably more. Anyways, he was trying to determine which one of these was the strongest reinforcer, thereby making it the most addictive.
He found that NICOTINE was #1! The next was benzos, then opiates, and then stimulants I believe.
Anyways, I could possibly figure out his name and then try and dig the actual paper up that he wrote on the topic if anyone is interested. I believe it was a pretty well recognized study that was published in a serious psychology journal.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Crystal G]
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meatcakeman said: i'd say meth
LOL, you've never done meth have you?
again, meth culture in the USA is completely different from what it is like in australia--there are many different aspects to consider too and not just one, because it has nothing to do with potency. I could go into the logistics of it all for you, but I just took xanax after not having it for days so I will be hitting bed now.
somebody remind me tomorrow.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
#7472799 - 10/01/07 02:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chubba said: I've seen at least 200 people fall to IV meth.
The rate is 100%.
I've never ONCE seen a person get their first injection of meth and not continue on the path of destruction.
I've been using meth IV occasionally for the last 20 years and I've never had issues with it. Explain that.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
#7472805 - 10/01/07 02:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chubba said: Australian meth culture is FUCKED.
The IV meth users are just about the worst people you will meet, I know because I used to be one of them.
If we're comparing stuff like nicotine to psychological addiction, it's not even 1 millionth the magnitude of meth.
okay, i woke up to drink some booze.
is OZ meth culture more fucked than this?
 (Pay attention to the more abused than alcohol bit) hahaahha, that was my friend in that picture too... i smoked out of that pipe lmao
besides, meth in OZ is expensive as hell--what are standard prices, like $100 for a G? unless you're super rich, you wouldn't be able to support a heavy habit.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: FecalDildo]
#7472807 - 10/01/07 02:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chubba said: I've seen at least 200 people fall to IV meth.
The rate is 100%.
I've never ONCE seen a person get their first injection of meth and not continue on the path of destruction.
I've been using meth IV occasionally for the last 20 years and I've never had issues with it. Explain that.
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meth in OZ is expensive as hell--what are standard prices, like $100 for a G for half-decent gear? unless you're super rich, you wouldn't be able to support a heavy habit.
Explained.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Helixx]
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I know some people can quit very addictive substances easily, but generally it can be determined which drug is more chemically addictive.It's hard though to do something like that clinically, and it relies on a lot of testimonial evidence.
In my personal experience and in my observations of others, cigarettes are the hardest drug to stop. I've heard that cigarettes are harder to quit than heroin, I'm sure others have too. I don't know of any clinical study to back this up, but I would have to say yes that's true from my observations and experience.
If it's not more addictive, it's definitely as addictive. Think of all the times people try and try and try to quit and cannot, and go through extreme mood swings when trying to quit. Go to an aa meetings, and see how so many people there claim to be off drugs, but then are still addicted to cigarettes. It's not because they need a release. It's because it's so hard to quit.
Think of people who don't make it, even after trying nicotine patches and other methods, and knowing how bad it is for them. People who don't quit, even when they know it's harming their families and children.
I think the fact that it's so toxic makes it much more chemically addictive. And the fact that you can hardly go anywhere without smelling it.
Meth and heroin are addictive, very. But the sudden craving you get for nicotine is much greater.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: kindadank]
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kindadank said: A college professor I once had did a study on this very thing with lab rats. He gave them every addictive drug you can think of like nicotine, heroin, morphine, alcohol, cocaine, methamphetamine, benzos, caffeine, sugar, and probably more. Anyways, he was trying to determine which one of these was the strongest reinforcer, thereby making it the most addictive.
He found that NICOTINE was #1! The next was benzos, then opiates, and then stimulants I believe.
Anyways, I could possibly figure out his name and then try and dig the actual paper up that he wrote on the topic if anyone is interested. I believe it was a pretty well recognized study that was published in a serious psychology journal.
Yeah, here's the fallacy about using lab rats as a model for human beings considering: WE ARE NOT BIOLOGICALLY SIMILAR. The simple fact that certain drugs cause a higher LD-50 rate in monkeys than it does rats should be an ample case to support this.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7472824 - 10/01/07 03:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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chubba:
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've seen at least 200 people fall to IV meth.
The rate is 100%.
I've never ONCE seen a person get their first injection of meth and not continue on the path of destruction.
Meet your first.
edit: (not that meth isn't evil and extremely addictive, just some people are different like I mentioned)
Edited by jonathan_206 (10/01/07 03:03 AM)
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
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've seen at least 200 people fall to IV meth.
The rate is 100%.
I've never ONCE seen a person get their first injection of meth and not continue on the path of destruction.
Meet your first.
edit: (not that meth isn't evil and extremely addictive, just some people are different like I mentioned)
yes, people really are different when it comes to their drug of choice.
i always used to hate downers until recently, but lately ive been having a strong affinity for the stronger opiates... IV of course.
but considering i was never an opiate person, i can still keep my usage under control. for example, i only take downers at night, to help me sleep. and if i were to ever stumble upon meth, i would only smoke it in the morning... this is the only way to use drugs and remain functional in my honest opinion.
well.......... so long as your supply doesnt run out.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
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out of the drugs i have tried i would say GHB/GBL were the most addictive for me personally.
nicotine makes me feel sick
havn't tried meth, crack or skag (yet?) but i would guess crack would force you into dependance quicker as the high doesn't last as long...
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
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meth in OZ is expensive as hell--what are standard prices, like $100 for a G for half-decent gear? unless you're super rich, you wouldn't be able to support a heavy habit.
More like $100 for 1/4 gram of really good gear.
That's the problem, you can't support the habit, you have to scam/steal and do all sorts of fucked things to use.
People can go through $500 in a single day, and these people abuse 24/7 pretty much, so imagine the amount of crime Australian IV meth users create.
Not nice people. Me, I was able to use because I knew a cook... I would buy a $50, have an injection and sell the $50 (and it was still bigger then what other dealers were selling), or buy a $100, have 2 injections and sell 2 x $50's.
I was able to binge nonstop.
all junkies are like that though--doesnt matter if its crack, meth, or h... they all do steal. but yes i do agree the ridiculous prices for a substance they are addicted to are what is causing a lot of crime in your country.
and $100 for a 1/4G is fucking ludicrous, ... i think i paid that price for a teener (1.75G) of that GCMS tested gear that showed 96% pure meth. (its the stuff i overdosed and seized on)
I believe we discussed this somewhere before in this topic though: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=6&Number=7465016&page=1&fpart=3
i know this seems strange but i really do miss my gnarly ass track marks. ;_; all i'd have to do is show em to paranoid as all fuck dealers, and they'd be like "DAYUMMMMMMM" and finally be chill with me after seeing em.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
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As I often post in these threads, cigarettes and tobacco are addictive, nicotine, much less so.
If you blind people to the treatment conditions, and give nicotine in non-tobacco form, people will report that they do not like it, and will not choose to receive it again.
There are major psychological aspects about cigarettes that make them addicting, which appear to be as important (if not more so) than nicotine.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
#7473004 - 10/01/07 06:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rustifer
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: FecalDildo]
#7473015 - 10/01/07 06:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I say opiates, maybe not the most addictive. But once you are addicted, it's by far the hardest addiction to over come. The easiest addiction to acquire would be crack probably, over nicotine.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
#7473310 - 10/01/07 10:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chubba said: I've seen at least 200 people fall to IV meth.
The rate is 100%.
I've never ONCE seen a person get their first injection of meth and not continue on the path of destruction.
My good friend used to IV meth on an irregular basis and he has been sober for ever a year. 99.9% rate I guess.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
#7475897 - 10/01/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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IV heroin is most likely the most addictive drug from what i've gathered
i'd say meth is pretty damn addicting
nicotine/ciggerate addiction is odd. YOu just start smoking a couple occasionally. A couple weeks later, your smoking a pack a day. You tell yourself you like the taste etc. and thats why you smoke em. In reality, your addicted and not having a ciggerate when you want one is a bitch.
Been there, done that, still there :-(
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: OzzyOz]
#7475972 - 10/01/07 11:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i watched a friend of mine destroy her life due to her meth addiction i doubt a nicotine addiction could be as detrimental
but at least i got to feel her boobies!
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Krystal Klear]
#9684709 - 01/26/09 07:18 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Nicotine is seriously hard to quit due to the fact that its legal, easily obtained, and comes with a good amount of physical cravings. However, nicotine withdrawal, for me, isn't that bad. I've quit for a long period of time before cold turkey and never felt a thing.
Now benzos, on the other hand, take a while to get you hooked but have absolutely the WORST withdrawal symptoms out of any drug I have ever known. I've read so many times that the withdrawal symptoms are worse than and at least five times longer lasting than heroin. Some people never feel the same again years later. This is why I have been, and probably always will be addicted to Klonopin.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: RandallFlagg]
#9684740 - 01/26/09 07:23 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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TheBigLebowski said: Nicotine is seriously hard to quit due to the fact that its legal, easily obtained, and comes with a good amount of physical cravings. However, nicotine withdrawal, for me, isn't that bad. I've quit for a long period of time before cold turkey and never felt a thing.
Now benzos, on the other hand, take a while to get you hooked but have absolutely the WORST withdrawal symptoms out of any drug I have ever known. I've read so many times that the withdrawal symptoms are worse than and at least five times longer lasting than heroin. Some people never feel the same again years later. This is why I have been, and probably always will be addicted to Klonopin.
Xanax for me. Though I'm considering a switch to klonopin. I hate the mini withdrawls between doses. Though a valerian or two seems to help.
And yeah, withdrawl sucks hardcore. I made it four months before I gave in and got a script. It just nevar ends.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Krystal Klear]
#9684748 - 01/26/09 07:25 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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I don't know if it's THE most addictive chemical; in fact, I'm almost certain it isn't.
That said, I quit doing cocaine cold-turkey after months of abuse, and I have yet to be able to quit smoking cigarettes, despite a very strong desire to do so. This, however, is due to fact that smoking cigs not only creates a dependancy on nicotine, but also forms a terrifyingly strong habit. I can deal with no nicotine, but the ritual is so deeply ingrained into my daily schedule that it's nearly impossible to let go.
I'll get there soon enough.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: RandallFlagg]
#9684789 - 01/26/09 07:32 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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cigarettes i think are only really addicting if you over indulge, or have smoked for a LOOONG time...like 5 years or more. for the past year and a half i've smoked about a pack per week, but i'll go five days sometimes without even thinking about smoking. i run every other day so if i don't limit my smoking like this i really kill my endurance. it's not hard though.
opiates though...damn i've felt the fiending after just a small binge on vicodins. i can function so well on them and it feels so good that i really could just see myself slipping into a daily habit without even caring (for a while ). i haven't even messed around with hard opiates. i imagine it would be much harder after a weeklong heroin binge to resist going out and getting another baggy.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: JT]
#9684813 - 01/26/09 07:36 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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haha shit this thread is really old, didn't even realize i'd posted in it already.
interesting how responses change over the years..
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
#9684852 - 01/26/09 07:41 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Chubba said: I've never ONCE seen a person get their first injection of meth and not continue on the path of destruction.

I did meth every way it can be done (snorted, smoked, injected) for a whole summer a few years ago
Now I only do it about 1-2 times a year
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
#9684856 - 01/26/09 07:41 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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I haven't tried anything but I am addicted to nicotine so it is for me. lol
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: niteowl]
#9684917 - 01/26/09 07:48 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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niteowl said:
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Chubba said: I've never ONCE seen a person get their first injection of meth and not continue on the path of destruction.

I did meth every way it can be done (snorted, smoked, injected) for a whole summer a few years ago
Now I only do it about 1-2 times a year
I did crystal for a stint in the mid nineties. Just snorting shards. I haven't touched it since, except in the odd E pill. One or two times a year aint bad. You can obviously handle it. Some people can.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: GoaM]
#9685650 - 01/26/09 09:42 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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GoaM said: Xanax for me. Though I'm considering a switch to klonopin. I hate the mini withdrawls between doses. Though a valerian or two seems to help.
And yeah, withdrawl sucks hardcore. I made it four months before I gave in and got a script. It just nevar ends.
Oh my god, you went 4 months? My hat's off to you. I went almost a month without meds one time before I broke down and called my doctor and told him how I had downed my script. I was getting by on Valerian and Kava for that one. You probably already know Klonopin is longer acting, has a 36 hour half life.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Chubba]
#9685750 - 01/26/09 09:55 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Chubba said: I would be dead if I got meth that cheap/pure.
I got a gram of ice once for $400 and it nearly destroyed me.
it's pretty easy to make by yourself
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Krystal Klear]
#9687388 - 01/27/09 07:41 AM (15 years, 4 days ago) |
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I had the chance to hang out with this old school hippy a few months ago, very knowledgeable man. After serving his time for heroin possession, he worked (amongst other things) helping people with drug addictions. We were talking about smoking tobacco, and he said that by far it was the most addicting substance, readily available, can be done socially, and harder to give up than heroin.
I doubt he was exaggerating.
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Re: Is nicotine the most addicting drug [Re: Krystal Klear]
#9687394 - 01/27/09 07:44 AM (15 years, 4 days ago) |
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Most ADDICTIVE drug .
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