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Vulnerability
    #7471510 - 09/30/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

We all have it. Some of hide it with an attitude, some of us just hide. I'm a hider myself. The more vulnerable I feel, the more I seclude myself.

Sometimes we all just really want to yell out loud: I'M REALLY LONELY! MY HEART IS BROKEN! I'M JUST SO SAD ALL THE TIME! I'M FRUSTRATED AND ANGRY! WHY CAN'T I JUST BE NORMAL?!

But the thing to know, I guess, is that you are normal. You're just a human being with a lot of complex feelings, just like everyone else. You may feel like a nobody or really lonely or sad or whatever...but I bet that there is someone else out there who loves you. And maybe even someone who wishes that they were like you.

We are all vulnerable humans. We are not always strong. Even when we feel at our worst, it is in our nature to pretend we are strong. Maybe the more strong we seem, the less strong we actually feel.

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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471523 - 09/30/07 07:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

thats so true i am the type that hides all my feelings and run away


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471539 - 09/30/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

wouldn't it be better to just take your shield down
and show your true self?
you might think that is impossible
but i have done it
and it doesn't isolate myself from others
other people connect with what i go through
and sympathize
it's scary
but a whole lot better than building a giant wall


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471544 - 09/30/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I personally can relate to what You said........I'm still in transiton even at 53, there's so much more i could say but better not


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: ajdaak]
    #7471551 - 09/30/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

What does that mean?

To 'hide' your feelings?

Does that mean that you just don't let anyone know how you are feeling and you just keep everything to yourself?

Or does it mean that you don't know what you feel, so you don't acknowledge it within yourself?

If you don't acknowledge your serious feelings like love, grief, pain, loneliness, frustration, are they even real?  Because if they are YOUR feelings, and you don't really feel them, it kind of cancels itself out? 

That doesn't seem right.  :frown:


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7471558 - 09/30/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ew socialize


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471560 - 09/30/07 07:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That speaks loud, dearest lady.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471569 - 09/30/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

cherry bom you're hot
according to your pictures

unless you like to steal pictures and pretend they are you!!!!!!!!


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471571 - 09/30/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I guess there is also a fear that if that vulnerability is exposed, people will think less of you. Or me. Defintely me.

They will judge.

They will talk amongst themselves.

They will forget me.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: FreakQlibrium]
    #7471575 - 09/30/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Feel vulnerable? Of what?

If somebody wants to have a stab at you, by all means let them go right the fuck ahead. Relish in its delight, progressively build up the inner demon, and then surprise em with a role switch. :minigun: :lol: :evildog:


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471576 - 09/30/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

there are certain people that you can open up to and there are people that don't need to know how your feeling but you will have to figure that out


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471578 - 09/30/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck those people.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: Adom]
    #7471587 - 09/30/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

But if you just keep saying, FUCK THOSE PEOPLE, I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS, then one day you just find yourself all on your own and there is no one left but you.

Humans need other humans. If you want to punish a human being, you put him in a cell away from all the other humans and he suffers.

We all need someone.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471590 - 09/30/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well have you found someone?


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7471601 - 09/30/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Naaaa.  I did a long time ago, but he hurt me so bad I'm all damaged and unsure of myself.  Now my body is failing me....and I'm vulnerable.

So I hide.

But it's lonely hiding.  So I'm just trying to work it out.  :hug:


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471608 - 09/30/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No one will ever forget You Bom, what kind of woman would have put up with me to and from that smallish Shroomerite gathering? You have my eternal respect and please never sell yoursef short on the beautiful person that you are.....


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471611 - 09/30/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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CherryBom said:
Naaaa.  I did a long time ago, but he hurt me so bad I'm all damaged and unsure of myself.  Now my body is failing me....and I'm vulnerable.

So I hide.

But it's lonely hiding.  So I'm just trying to work it out.  :hug:




Get a load of this bastard, you sound a lot like me


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: FreakQlibrium]
    #7471625 - 09/30/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you so much Freak.  :heart:  That really means so much to me right now...

It's just so hard to say, "I'm hurting and I need love from the people who I love!"  And it's not like I don't have love, because I do.  Something is wrong tho.  Maybe it's lacking of self-love.

I am human.
I am vulnerable.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471626 - 09/30/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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CherryBom said:
Naaaa.  I did a long time ago, but he hurt me so bad I'm all damaged and unsure of myself.  Now my body is failing me....and I'm vulnerable.

So I hide.

But it's lonely hiding.  So I'm just trying to work it out.  :hug:




wow i really wanna give you a hug right now

too bad you live in Canada


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: Adom]
    #7471631 - 09/30/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

what i tell all single people and to myself at times is make yourself and everything else will fall into place when it needs to


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: ajdaak]
    #7471648 - 09/30/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I believe that, but in my job you don't trust snakes or you will loose your ass. I don't mind, I can always pull up porn, haha.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471686 - 09/30/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

There was that one line from the 3rd jethro tull album Benefit~~I'm going to go back to the friends that i know with who i can be what i want to be*~

Yo're so right Bom, we all need someone to love.......


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: FreakQlibrium]
    #7471701 - 09/30/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Just make sure you love yourself too. Yourself is who needs the most love of all...


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: ajdaak]
    #7471716 - 09/30/07 08:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

ajdaak said:
there are certain people that you can open up to and there are people that don't need to know how your feeling but you will have to figure that out




:yesnod:


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471739 - 09/30/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I do love myself hun and yes it was fun exchanging high fives with you :smile: It's just too bad though, i meet the first woman in 6 years tht i would ever consider having a serious relationship with  and she's been so physically assaulted amd abused by older men.......she would just freeze up being around me, we're still friends though.....


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471748 - 09/30/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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CherryBom said:
Just make sure you love yourself too. Yourself is who needs the most love of all...




I'm pretty hard on myself a lot of the time. this is something I recognize and that has also been pointed out to me by others (some who know me well and others not so well). Sometimes loving yourself is the hardest thing to do, even if you know that this love is all one truly needs. Sometimes loving yourself means accepting you are a "good", "kind", "intelligent" individual/person, which for me means I become less productive temporarily and more vulnerable. Vulnerable is a place no animal generally tries to put itself into. But in the absence of vulnerability to others, one seems to be vulnerable to themselves...maybe there's no way to metaphorically win


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: demiu5]
    #7471760 - 09/30/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The phrase: What doesn't kill us will only make us stronger....comes to mind.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471774 - 09/30/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

maybe, but I can think of lots of exceptions


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471795 - 09/30/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well, until you're ready to re-enter the real world the Shroomery and your internet buddies are here for you.  :heart:


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7471808 - 09/30/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The geh is coming back


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471871 - 09/30/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CherryBom said:
I guess there is also a fear that if that vulnerability is exposed, people will think less of you. Or me. Defintely me.




But, think about it for a second...when somebody exposes weakness and makes a cry for help have you noticed that sometimes you think of them as weak and such? Especially men.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7471901 - 09/30/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Are you attempting your first point?


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: Adom]
    #7471909 - 09/30/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think people tend to judge what they see in themselves.

If I say, I am weak and hurting, and you judge me for it...you are probably weak and hurting yourself and you despise yourself for your own weakness. It's easier to see our own faults in others.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471923 - 09/30/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Kinda like how hardcore Christian conservatives are sometimes closet homos?


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471926 - 09/30/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sweet cheeks, we have met, I am real, I know your pain well. I know suffering even better, do you need to let it all hang out? I am smiling and I really appreciate a place you can do this in this manner, I am making no judgements.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7471933 - 09/30/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Pull that shit out on me, mother fucker


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471963 - 09/30/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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CherryBom said:
I think people tend to judge what they see in themselves.

If I say, I am weak and hurting, and you judge me for it...you are probably weak and hurting yourself and you despise yourself for your own weakness. It's easier to see our own faults in others.




The universe is a total illusion, you put it as well as anyome could have.....


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7471968 - 09/30/07 09:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:tongue2:


Edited by CherryBom (09/30/07 09:23 PM)


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: Adom]
    #7471971 - 09/30/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:tongue2:


Edited by CherryBom (09/30/07 09:24 PM)


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: Adom]
    #7471975 - 09/30/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That was very angry. I'm not sure how to deal with that right now.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471982 - 09/30/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

He thought he could one up me, he's trying to play me, he's gay or has other problems. I don't have any, I have woman, whiskey and my life of sin, I don't need bullshit from morons.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: Adom]
    #7471985 - 09/30/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

blah blah blah


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7471986 - 09/30/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yer right man, dam


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: Adom]
    #7471990 - 09/30/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No one is trying to play you. Your anger is dominating a respectful discussion. You're looking for confrontation where there is none.

You are hiding.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7471997 - 09/30/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Just let it drop of your back like raindrops on a duck, you really needen't deal with ir.......


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7472005 - 09/30/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I can admit my problems any day, I get pissed off when the wrong card is played, who's crying?


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: Adom]
    #7472008 - 09/30/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I vote that we make Adom a mod.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7472009 - 09/30/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I think people tend to judge what they see in themselves.

If I say, I am weak and hurting, and you judge me for it...you are probably weak and hurting yourself and you despise yourself for your own weakness.  It's easier to see our own faults in others.




I think you are dead on here. The only person I really criticize is myself, I guess.  I just take it out on other people :frown:


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7472011 - 09/30/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Wow this thread got ugly fast...


Take it outside, guys.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7472013 - 09/30/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Dude, I don't want it, I'm not gay, I haven't hurt anyone, I'm busy and I'm stuck on the shroomery, end of story.


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7472017 - 09/30/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:heart:


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: Adom]
    #7472019 - 09/30/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:tongue2:


Edited by CherryBom (09/30/07 09:22 PM)


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7472023 - 09/30/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You're an honest person and i repect that :yesnod:


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7472083 - 09/30/07 09:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Vulnerability?

What's that?


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Re: Vulnerability [Re: CherryBom]
    #7472158 - 09/30/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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CherryBom said:
What does that mean?

To 'hide' your feelings?

Does that mean that you just don't let anyone know how you are feeling and you just keep everything to yourself?

Or does it mean that you don't know what you feel, so you don't acknowledge it within yourself?

If you don't acknowledge your serious feelings like love, grief, pain, loneliness, frustration, are they even real?  Because if they are YOUR feelings, and you don't really feel them, it kind of cancels itself out? 

That doesn't seem right.  :frown:




I wonder about this long and hard many nights. If all we are is our perception of who we are, and all we feel is our perception of how we feel... If we choose not to feel somthing, do we truly not feel it, or are we just hiding it? Can we choose how we feel? Perhaps.....

When im having this debate with myself, i usually end up at the same conclusion. In the end, im trying to puse rational logic and thought to explain one of the most complex, powerful and confusing aspects of our lives here on earth, emotions.

In the end, we can only try and reach through the darkness we see and feel, into the light that is waiting for us on the other side, wherever, or whatever, that may be.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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