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my cakes never pin...
    #7471445 - 09/30/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

here's the scenerio. i put 12 brf cakes in my fc on monday maybe tuesday. i mist and fan around 4-5 times a day. its a shotgun style fc with 4-5" of damp perlite. and i still have not one single pin. this is my 2nd attempt with these cakes the first one i went a month, month and a week maybe with no signs of pinning either and said fuc it and decided to crumble them and case them and they sat like that for awhile until they eventually got contaminated.


am i doing something wrong to never get any pins on these cakes. i can always get them to colonize just perfect no problems but nothing happens when i go to fruit them its so frustrating.

on my first batch did a month seem to long for no pins? should of i just kept waiting it out???

i would really like some help on this ine guys thanks


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: blood4blood]
    #7471839 - 09/30/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Are you using some kind of clone? It is possible to have a non fruiting variety. Are they getting all the pinning triggers as in fresh air, 95%+ Rh, and light?


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: pazzy]
    #7472880 - 10/01/07 03:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

nope no clones. and yea a fan 4-5 times a day. RH is around 96% and they are on a 12/12 light cycle.

do i just need to be more patient???


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: blood4blood]
    #7472905 - 10/01/07 04:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well a month out is a little long. less than a week isn't long at all though


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: xhooliganx]
    #7473109 - 10/01/07 08:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

some of my cakes are starting to get really white little finger looking things. signs of pinning???


but they are all seeming to get this REALLY white fuzz on them, are they continuing to colonize? or is this normal?


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: blood4blood]
    #7473185 - 10/01/07 09:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

they'll get fuzzy, an the white finger tips are probably pins.

are they thick and stubby and kind of roundish, or strandy and needle like, like a spike?

misting 5 times a day sounds excessive.
fanning 5 times doesnt.


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: dysphoria]
    #7473228 - 10/01/07 09:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ill cut down on the misting to maybe 2-3 times a day and keep up on the fanning


some of the fingers are small and knotty and some do look like spikes. whats that difference???

thanks for the help


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: blood4blood]
    #7473253 - 10/01/07 09:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the ones that look like spikes are usually an indicator of too high of humidity.
its actually mycelium thats trying to grow into the air due to the above.

whereas the small, amorphous lumps that are kinda round (and initially look like little white pimples) are the pins.


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: dysphoria]
    #7473425 - 10/01/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so cutting down on the misting should take care of this?


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: blood4blood]
    #7473456 - 10/01/07 10:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ahh I always thoughtu couldn't have too muchhumidity with cakes. interesting. I have 1 spike on acake. well this wll give me an indication that my humidityis high. have no meter. I.ll cut my misting downto twice a day.


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7481929 - 10/03/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

alright its been a little over a week now since i put my cakes in my fc and i still have no damn pins just like the last time i tryed to fruit cakes. iam at a loss now, very frustrated!

i can always get the jars here and they stall when i put them in the fc i dont understand. i dropped misting down to 1-2 times a day and fan 4-5.

i need some help please!!! any more suggestions to what im doing wrong


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: blood4blood]
    #7482027 - 10/03/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

that is very strange.

what vendor did you buy spores from?

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blood4blood said:
alright its been a little over a week now since i put my cakes in my fc and i still have no damn pins just like the last time i tryed to fruit cakes. iam at a loss now, very frustrated!

i can always get the jars here and they stall when i put them in the fc i dont understand. i dropped misting down to 1-2 times a day and fan 4-5.

i need some help please!!! any more suggestions to what im doing wrong




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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: futurewolf42o]
    #7482045 - 10/03/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Do you have your cakes sitting directly on the perlite? They could be colonized the perlite instead of fruiting. Otherwise I am at loss.


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: pazzy]
    #7482071 - 10/03/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i made the syringes myself from some spores that i aquired through a trade. my first attempt at cakes my spores were from a vendor and i thought that was the reason but it cant be now.

my cakes sit on some rabbit fence that i have propped up off the perlite.


this sux!!! to come so far and have nothing.


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: pazzy]
    #7482072 - 10/03/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i hate to say this, but 1 of my cakes just suddenly popped 5 pins , growing from the bloody bottom, i lean the cake over and discover another six growing on the very bottom of my cake.

Did u dunk your cake for 24 hours, my first cake i birthed without dunking and it sat for almost a week, i then dunked it along with 3 others that were just ready and 4 days later, pins.

I fan 4 times a day and mist 4 times a day.

Really dont understand as i dont even know what my RH


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Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7482139 - 10/03/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

yea i always dunk for 24 hrs and roll in verm. dishearting so say the least.


what do your cakes sit on?

what is your temp?

what do u use for lighting? do u put the light right on top of the fc?


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: blood4blood]
    #7493806 - 10/07/07 09:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so instead of starting a new thred i bumped this one again just to let everybody know i finially got PINS! i went up to the north shore for the weekend and came back and found hundreds of pins on my sixteen cakes. what a great closer to my weekend.


my question is though a lot of them have white on the caps. is this a sign of humidity being to high or low or is this normal?


and how long does it usually take for pins to become mature adults roughly?

thanks for all your help guys...


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Re: my cakes never pin... [Re: blood4blood]
    #7493823 - 10/07/07 09:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The white on the caps is normal I believe. Eventually you wont be able to see that. And as for the estimation, for me it usually goes 10-12 daysish


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