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NotForIngestion
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1st Time With Shiitake.
#7471423 - 09/30/07 06:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm new to growing these Shiitake.
The substrate is H20, BRF, Hardwood Chips, Bran, and Vermiculite.
- Are these jars ready to be dunked and cased?
- Should I break these up and spawn them to more Hardwood and Bran?
- Anyone have any links to some good Shiitake info?
Thanks in advance everyone.
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NotForIngestion
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Woops. Forgot to post pictures of the jars. Sorry.



Inoculated 9-10-2007. Shiitake LC.
RR DVD says to let them stay in the jars for like 2 weeks after they are fully colonized?
Later
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Nice, the jar on the far right in the first picture looks ready.
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Re: 1st Time With Shiitake. [Re: falcon]
#7474540 - 10/01/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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those look great! nice job..i agree though...the one on the right looks like its ready. keep us posted and thanks for sharing!
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Re: 1st Time With Shiitake. [Re: greys]
#7474731 - 10/01/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You won't want to crumble and case shiitake. If there's a fair amount of sawdust or woodchips in the substrate, you can simply take the lid off and place the jar in the FC. It will fruit right out the top. I'd recommend taking the 'cake' out of the jar, dunking, and then place back into the jars for fruiting. They won't dry out as fast that way. You can also birth them like pf cakes, but often you'll want to give a mid-flush dunk by setting them in a saucer of water or something.
When they've been fully colonized for a week or two, give them a full week of cold shock with temps in the mid 40's to mid 50's. RR
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Re: 1st Time With Shiitake. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7475003 - 10/01/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: You won't want to crumble and case shiitake. If there's a fair amount of sawdust or woodchips in the substrate, you can simply take the lid off and place the jar in the FC. It will fruit right out the top. I'd recommend taking the 'cake' out of the jar, dunking, and then place back into the jars for fruiting. They won't dry out as fast that way. You can also birth them like pf cakes, but often you'll want to give a mid-flush dunk by setting them in a saucer of water or something.
When they've been fully colonized for a week or two, give them a full week of cold shock with temps in the mid 40's to mid 50's. RR
I see, and I will fruit these from their jars and a few like the ordinary PF Tek Fruiting Method.
A few questions I have though..
Is their a way to grow Shiitake in a minimum sized Bulk Situation?
Can you inoculate Rye and spawn to Wood Chips and Bran?
If I read correctly, Shiitake will grow its mycellium on Rye, but will only render nice sized edible fruits on some sort of Wood Substrate?
I'm sure ready to eat me some homegrown mushroom soup.
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The preferred substrate for shiitake is supplemented hardwood sawdust/woodchips. Rye makes an excellent spawn. 5 pound sawdust/woodchip substrate blocks give about the most bang for the buck that I've experienced.
I inoculated this old telephone book with shiitake and amazingly, it's starting to fruit. RR
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Re: 1st Time With Shiitake. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7476248 - 10/02/07 02:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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sounds like a plan
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NotForIngestion
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Re: 1st Time With Shiitake. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7476528 - 10/02/07 06:57 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: The preferred substrate for shiitake is supplemented hardwood sawdust/woodchips. Rye makes an excellent spawn. 5 pound sawdust/woodchip substrate blocks give about the most bang for the buck that I've experienced.
A Phone Book. You crazy human.
Where would you get Hardwood Sawdust locally? Cedar and Pine are softwood right? What about Aspen wood shavings?
Thanks a Bunch.
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Cedar and Pine are not acceptable substrates. Aspen will work, but you want sawdust and chips, not shavings. There's too much space between shavings and that makes it hard to colonize.
You can get Oak, Ash, Elm, etc., from a local tree trimming company. Just let them know what you want, and the next time they remove a tree from somebody's yard, they'll know where to bring the chippings.
Here's some oysters and a shiitake cluster forming on phone books. RR
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Re: 1st Time With Shiitake. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7480057 - 10/03/07 08:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So with the Phone Book are you showing that these mushrooms will basically fruit on any substrate as long as the Environment (Humidity and Air Exchange) are prime?
Is paper a good fruiting substrate?
Is sawdust available to purchase at any local stores you can think of?
Thanks for your time.
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Quote:
NotForIngestion said: I'm new to growing these Shiitake.
The substrate is H20, BRF, Hardwood Chips, Bran, and Vermiculite.
- Are these jars ready to be dunked and cased?
- Should I break these up and spawn them to more Hardwood and Bran?
- Anyone have any links to some good Shiitake info?
Thanks in advance everyone.
can you elaborate on your proportions of the substrate mix you described? I saw your other post with the huge shiitake thats awsome
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