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OfflineKickleM
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Confidence is powerful?
    #7471208 - 09/30/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Does a confident person have more power over others than a less confident person does? It seems to me that I am particularly susceptible to believing what others say if they are confident enough. This is of especially true when it is a topic I am ignorant of, which I believe also makes me less confident about the topic to begin with.

Given a person with confidence and a person with a lack of, does the person with confidence inadvertently or intentionally, shape the other? And is this useful or a downfall?


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Kickle]
    #7471269 - 09/30/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It is a downfall isn't it.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Kickle]
    #7471282 - 09/30/07 05:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

There are many kinds of confidence, I think. Much confidence as we understand it is not really confidence at all - it's more like learning to play an ascribed role well. A crude example: say you're born into a certain high social status and you are considered classically good looking and you're athletic... your role is carved out for you pretty nicely and it is one that gives you a certain amount of 'confidence'.

But real confidence, IMO, is gentle and humble, and comes from inner stillness and acceptance of the transience of all forms - physical, mental, emotional. It cannot be faked.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Kickle]
    #7471283 - 09/30/07 05:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yes.

You can utilise anothers imagination to make them belive what you confidently pretend to believe.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Ego Death]
    #7471339 - 09/30/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

A person who is confident does have more social power than someone who, for example, has low self-esteem, but this does not mean the person is more intelligent or more knowledgeable. Like bug said, it is only a role which is played by certain people.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Ego Death]
    #7471342 - 09/30/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Confidence is assumed to be your paycheck and how expensive your car was.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Kickle]
    #7471452 - 09/30/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I definitely think confidence allows you to persuade and therefore assert superiority over others. I'm on the mock trial team at my university and I've experienced first hand that if you can present yourself with powerful confidence, you can persuade or at least minutely influence others to align with your opinion(s).

If I am in a confident mindset, I am usually intentionally trying to shape the beliefs of others. Whether this is a good or bad thing depends upon (a) the idea I am attempting to coax them into agreeing with and (b) his or her opinion as to the morality of this idea.

Just think, Hitler was confident, but was it really desirable that he persuade thousands of men to burn other human beings simply because of their religious beliefs? I'm inclined to think no. Conversely, most people would consider it a laudable cause to persuade others to fight against racism or the propagation of any other sort of prejudice.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Alion]
    #7471456 - 09/30/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Confidence can be used to project an air of expertise on a subject, which may give the listener the impression that the speaker is more qualified to make decisions concerning the issue than they, the listener, are, even though that might not be the case. So in this way at least, yes, confidence is a way to assert power over others.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Exiztenzial]
    #7471496 - 09/30/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

NLP.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Kickle]
    #7471798 - 09/30/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Does a confident person have more power over others than a less confident person does?

This appears so self-evident that I'm surprised you asked.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Icelander]
    #7471811 - 09/30/07 08:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

no I think a confident person will surely have less power over a less confident person... If they had a gun.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Hakim0777]
    #7471821 - 09/30/07 08:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I have two viewpoints on this. The first is if the person acts more confident then I would say as long as the others do not see through this then yes they will generally be more willing to go along with this. However in the end you also risk being seen through your fallicies which will in the end hurt you. I do not know if it is even possibly to truly pull off acting confident without showing any signs of doubt.

The other perspective is if you are in fact truly confident because you know you are right on the subject at hand. If this is the case then I would say you undoubtedly have more influence over others. However, I would not attribute this to your confidence alone. It would also be in the power of your persuasion. If you are truly confident that you are right then you should be able to show this to others by stating your opinion and the reason you believe it to be so. Being that you are right they will be more inclined to believe your upon looking at the facts of the subject.


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Re: Confidence is powerful? [Re: Hakim0777]
    #7473150 - 10/01/07 08:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Not if they didn't have the confidence to pull the trigger.

Language can be as powerful as any weapon.


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