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Junta must be tried for crimes against humanity ~The times they are repeating themselves
    #7471074 - 09/30/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Burmese_anti-government_protests

Please check the bottom of this article to see if local protests against the local brutality will be happening in your city and participate if possible.

NY Ottawa Vancouver etc etc. All we are saying...is give peace a chance...NOW!


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7471123 - 09/30/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, apparently there is satellite evidence that they are burning villages to the ground over there, and setting up prison camps.....

not good at all...


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #7471137 - 09/30/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If Burma had oil we would liberate them.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #7471285 - 09/30/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

link plz.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: ZippoZ]
    #7471290 - 09/30/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

link plz.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: UlcerPentacidis]
    #7471406 - 09/30/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This is disgusting.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #7471483 - 09/30/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

alot of people want peace in Burma, our goverment in the States is too obsessed with IRAQ and wouldn't dream of spending some time in Burma to help the UN, pacify the fighters, and mend peace.

Bush just said recently said, not spending 22 billion on America--because he needed 220 billion on the war.

I doubt we will be doing much over there, unfortunatly.

If we do it will be little in comparison to what our full potential could help.

I wonder how long it will be before the News filters filter out Burma News.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: Alion]
    #7471858 - 09/30/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The Chinese government supports this shit! We need to boycott the Olympics!

The thing is, both the Russians and the Chinese don't want this thing to escalate, because at least China wants to be seen as a responsible nation, at least before the 2008 Olympics. But, both countries support the military government in Burma, they don't want the Buddhist supported revolution to succeed, due to fact that this may give ideas to their (at least China) own religious based dissident groups.

Fuck the Chinese government!

Also China has other reaons for not wanting this thing to escalate. They want their region to be stable, because they've got enough internal problems.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
    #7471870 - 09/30/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

In the end for China and India, it's about the resources. Both countries has extensive energy deals with Burma.

Let's hope this shit don't turn into a proxy war for India and China.

Let's hope the Chinese can convince the Burma miltary government to not fuck this shit up.



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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: UlcerPentacidis]
    #7472659 - 10/01/07 01:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

UlcerPentacidis said:
link plz.



? what do you lack here?


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: SymmetryGroup8]
    #7472664 - 10/01/07 01:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SymmetryGroup8 said:
The Chinese government supports this shit! We need to boycott the Olympics!

The thing is, both the Russians and the Chinese don't want this thing to escalate, because at least China wants to be seen as a responsible nation, at least before the 2008 Olympics. But, both countries support the military government in Burma, they don't want the Buddhist supported revolution to succeed, due to fact that this may give ideas to their (at least China) own religious based dissident groups.

Fuck the Chinese government!

Also China has other reaons for not wanting this thing to escalate. They want their region to be stable, because they've got enough internal problems.




That was well thought out and clearly stated. Are you able to get to a protest site? Can you participate bodily in this? I won't be able to :frown: but boy would I!


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Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7476235 - 10/02/07 02:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Where are my idealistic I wanna change the world buddies out there? Can you get to a site on Sat OCTOBER 6th '07 between 12:00pm ans 2:00pm in London, NY or Vancouver? There are several other cities 'round the world mentioned in the wiki-article I posted at the beginning of this thread. If it's something that speaks to ya somehow and if you can get there. Think of me and how I wish I could be standing there in the crowd making a noise in the universe like in the children's picture book: Horton Hears a Who by Dr. Seuss
Peace NOW!


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Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in


Edited by MyInnerChild (10/02/07 02:36 AM)


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7476269 - 10/02/07 03:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I might be Jaded but nothing will change in Burma, it never does.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: FecalDildo]
    #7476274 - 10/02/07 03:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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FecalDildo said:
I might be Jaded but nothing will change in Burma, it never does.




You're nearly causing me a facial tick...

THINK...doesn't this sound like Poland and London during WW2? London, US Canada, Germany...are all speaking out against this and you...um stay possibly "Jaded"? Man..you gave it a capital in your quote, I didn't...Freud would have a blast with that typo...but seriously....prioritize...if you can join as one voice to say "To hell with the Junta" the way we woulda shoulda coulda about Nazi-ism why shouldn't we if we can? If it speaks to one's soul...

Did you look closely at the link I posted?


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Sometimes the light's all shine'in on me,
Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
What a looong strange trip it's been! ~ Truck'in


Edited by MyInnerChild (10/02/07 03:11 AM)


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #7476287 - 10/02/07 03:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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This is disgusting.




Not wishing to be the voice of doom but this is possible BIG stuff here that may have father reaching effects than you want as a young man sirs...all of you young guys....there was a draft for WW2 which the U.S. citizens thought was going to stay a localized European war. Who woulda suspected Pearl Harbour man.
Are you located where you can get to a protest?


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7476296 - 10/02/07 03:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Have you only just noticed Myanmar in the last ten days?

I've been watching what's going on there for the last 15 or 20 years, having a friend from Burma kindled my interest.

The events of the last week are nothing new and like I said, nothing will change, it never does.

China has by far the most influence over what happens in Burma, China has absolutely no interest in supporting democratic change in Myanmar.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7476365 - 10/02/07 04:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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MyInnerChild said:
:bongload:
Hey guys, come on man, ya know like, about this Burma shit right?  Shit man, they got like, some mad terrible stuff happening to them,and like, that doesn't vibe well with the earth and its resonance, the micro-frequencies of love.  We got to get up and try and protest this, lets all like, ya know, ha wait, ya know, get in our bus man, and then drive over to this protest shit and yell man, yea itll be fuckin profound. 


               

  We have to stop this shit, cause like, one time I heard about this group called the Nazi's.  I think they were like, something to do with world war two where US and germany took on i think italy, anyways the details are irrelevent.  But like, this situation here is kinda reminding me of the Nazi's because like, I had heard, that they were all restricting some freedoms,and these Burma cats are all about that shit too apparently.  And who knows, maybe soon they will start invading other countries and then world war 3 man, its totally possible.  And then we have a draft, and the world gets thrown back to the dark ages, its all a sign man.  World War 2 lasted 6 years, and look its 2007, 6 years till 2012 man, does that shit blow your mind?  Oh wait, 5 years till 2012, meaning,holy shit, meaning, in 6 years a new consciousness man, like the aftermath of the war just like in world war 2.  Philosophy is crazy man, wait what was I talking about?
:bongload:




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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: TheCow]
    #7476389 - 10/02/07 04:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

HaAAaaaaa
Your tactics to bring this to nuttiness was right on!

Perhaps the cutie with the white puppy is a girlie who won't get drafted anyway...so she doesn't care but no b/f or brothers? How sad. :frown:

LOL :laugh:

Or, perhaps the puppy owner is in an insane asylum (with internet privileges one hour a day, ha!) and will never be drafted due to some chronic lack of compassion that led to his shooting his whole family to death in their beds one night, oh, it's along story that can wait but remind me about it k?...now that's a feasible guess why the human right violations don't bug ya! DAMNdest thing the draft. DAMNdest!

The questions remain: Don't we still smell a draft even if not over this specific area of the world?
Do you feel it is ever a good thing?



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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7476400 - 10/02/07 05:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yes I actually think the draft was important in WW2. Now that our playfulness is over, please relate to me how the Nazi's are similar to the Burmese government, or were you trying to imply China would do something?


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: TheCow]
    #7476408 - 10/02/07 05:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Yes I actually think the draft was important in WW2.  Now that our playfulness is over, please relate to me how the Nazi's are similar to the Burmese government, or were you trying to imply China would do something?




How they are similar? Did you read the wiki-article? Did you read it through? If not, please do so and then ask that again and I'll tackle it at that time. I'm dead tired after emailing all night about this and other heavy stuff going down in my personal life with my 2 teens. Oh Lawd save us! My sister comforts me...she reminded me that grandchildren are God's reward for NOT killing your teen-agers.

Wise words man... peace. :thumbup:


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Other times I can barely see.
Lately it occurs to me,
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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: FecalDildo]
    #7476416 - 10/02/07 05:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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FecalDildo said:
Have you only just noticed Myanmar in the last ten days?

I've been watching what's going on there for the last 15 or 20 years, having a friend from Burma kindled my interest.

The events of the last week are nothing new and like I said, nothing will change, it never does. 

China has by far the most influence over what happens in Burma, China has absolutely no interest in supporting democratic change in Myanmar.




Yes, I am aware of the atrocities which have sent refugees running over the years but please read the article from wiki man...this is like...really coming to a head...please read it and then comment that nothing will change...it's CHANGING but not necessarily towards democracy! We're talking bashing the heads of Monks against the walls of the monasteries, curfew violators shot in the street, internet access cut off so to stop pics from getting out etc. etc. etc. :mad2:

China, according to this link is encouraging the country to adopt a democratic gvt. I read the quote from their gvt rep and was shocked. If it's so, that'd be because...why? Why d'you think they'd do that?

Curious to know so share your educated thoughts...after you read the link if you please.
MIC


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7476712 - 10/02/07 08:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What makes you think this uprising is any different than what happened in 1988?


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: bukkake]
    #7477778 - 10/02/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What's diff is this is the one I know about and this is the one I can do something about...MOVE yer tush man! :smile:


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7477829 - 10/02/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23414471-details/Burma:%20Thousands%20dead%20in%20the%20massacre%20of%20the%20monks%20dumped%20in%20the%20jungle/article.do

Quote:

A Swedish diplomat who visited Burma during the protests said last night that in her opinion the revolution has failed.

Liselotte Agerlid, who is now in Thailand, said that the Burmese people now face possibly decades of repression. "The Burma revolt is over," she added.



It's over.


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Re: Junta must be tried for crimes against humanity ~The times they are repeating themselves [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7477854 - 10/02/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

A Facebook users group, Support the Monks' protest in Burma, was formed immediately following the first network reports of monks marching past Aung San Suu Kyi's house. The group grew to over 230,000 members by October 1. The group is calling for a global expression of solidarity through public demonstrations on October 6 in cities and towns worldwide.


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Re: Junta must be tried for crimes against humanity ~The times they are repeating themselves [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7477871 - 10/02/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What about Darfur?


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Re: Junta must be tried for crimes against humanity ~The times they are repeating themselves [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7477907 - 10/02/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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What about Darfur?



There are SO many what abouts..I agree with you...but please, I just want to encourage participation in the international protests this Sat. That's all for this thread.


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Re: Junta must be tried for crimes against humanity ~The times they are repeating themselves [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7478071 - 10/02/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Burma: Thousands Dead in Massacre, Dumped in Jungle
Burma: UN envoy meets top general as regime blames foreigners for violence


http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/107025/Burma_Thousands_Dead_in_Massacre_Dumped_in_Jungle


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7478088 - 10/02/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I read the Wiki article, not that I give wiki much creedence.

Repeat, nothing will change in Myanmar, it's already all over bar the shouting. It'll be gone from the news next week.

Nothing will change.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: FecalDildo]
    #7478410 - 10/02/07 06:40 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Nothing will change.




Yes it will...it will change for the worse...if we do nothing. One is either going forward or back..there's no hang'in around do'in noth'in man...there just isn't.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7478917 - 10/02/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

We're talking bashing the heads of Monks against the walls of the monasteries, curfew violators shot in the street, internet access cut off so to stop pics from getting out etc. etc. etc. :mad2:




You think that's anything new?  No it's been like that for two decades.

It's no worse than it's ever been and certainly no better but nothing will change.

Sorry to expose you to the harsh reality of this situation.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: FecalDildo]
    #7479082 - 10/02/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ACT! Do something!
Damn...you just don't get it!
I requested that this be locked...my original point wasn't addressed I feel.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7479092 - 10/02/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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MyInnerChild said:
Quote:

UlcerPentacidis said:
link plz.



? what do you lack here?




i'm lacking links to back up zippoz' claim of satellite footage showing buring villages.

btw, take a breath and relax before you post, it might make them a little more coherent.


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Re: Burmese anti-government peaceful protests meet with violence! [Re: MyInnerChild]
    #7480009 - 10/03/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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MyInnerChild said:

I requested that this be locked...my original point wasn't addressed I feel.




Locking a thread because people voice views that differ from your own would be a concept that the Burmese Junta would find familiar.

fascism starts with individuals.


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