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Offlinewutang
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why no pins yet?
    #7470836 - 09/30/07 03:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

so i spawned some poo/straw coffee and coir with OI rye.
colonized, then cased with vermiculite.
its been 5 days in the FC, did i do something wrong?
on one casing theres a little bit of mycelium coming up to the surface, maybe i have to wait for the case to get a bit of growth on it before any yields?


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: wutang]
    #7470996 - 09/30/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You have to case with more than just vermiculite. You need hpoo or other nutrient forms. Sounds like your doing a bulk casing. You still need to do a top casing of hpoo or 50/50 verm/peat moss


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: eleven34]
    #7471005 - 09/30/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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You have to case with more than just vermiculite. You need hpoo or other nutrient forms.  Sounds like your doing a bulk casing. You still need to do a top casing of hpoo or 50/50 verm/peat moss




Bad advice.  He SPAWNED to hpoo, which is what you're supposed to do.  You shouldn't case with anything nutrative.

I'd wait a few more days. :thumbup:


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: eleven34]
    #7471006 - 09/30/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

you also have to cover it with foil, set it and forget it for about 5-10 days once you have 3/4 amount of mycelium growth showing then you add your casing layer. Mist lightly.

if you see white spots forming in some areas and not others after you did your casing and it's been about 6 days or so then add just a little more casing layer just on top of the visible white spots for an even pinset.

I hope that answered your ?


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: eleven34]
    #7471012 - 09/30/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like you're a little confused george
a case has to be nute free peatmoss, verm. casing with poo isnt recomended.
verm makes great casing layers


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: archivist]
    #7471018 - 09/30/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

so your saying he is done no more additives?

Just wait and pin heads will form?

From all the tek's I read it still says add a casing layer even if he used all those things such as hpoo/straw/coir/coffee etc....

Am I wrong? or just misunderstood?


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: eleven34]
    #7471024 - 09/30/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Hpoo, straw, coir, or coffee is not a casing material. It will simply colonize like the spawn.

A casing layer is not meant to be colonized completely. it's a moisture reservoir for the shrooms growing through. Sounds like he just needs to wait a little.


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: eleven34]
    #7471025 - 09/30/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

so I have it backwards? I thought it's the nutrient stuff that you add as the casing.

Shit I guess I totally misunderstood.


Sorry for the bad advice. I need to read more tek's


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: archivist]
    #7471029 - 09/30/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

OK so 50/50 peat/verm is nutrient free.

I thought peat moss had nutrient. I knew that verm doesn't.


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: eleven34]
    #7471094 - 09/30/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You probably don't have many of the teks under your belt... reading helps A LOT but as i've learned, experience is when you are like, "OH! Thats what they were talking about.." :wink:


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: MFGFA37]
    #7471194 - 09/30/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've heard people say case, then wait a few days for myc to show through before fruiting, but I usually put mine right into the chamber and the myc grows through the layer while its fruiting.

I know thats not much help, Im just sayin that for me it makes no difference waiting for myc on the casing layer before fruiting. As for having absolutely no nutrients in the casing layer, im sure it doesn't hurt anything because the Miracle Grow Moisture Control I use as casing material says it has some fertilizer in it.


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: bagsofun]
    #7471962 - 09/30/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Keep fresh air exchange up and give them a few hours, 12 ideally, of light a day and you should have pins in no time.


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: wutang]
    #7471991 - 09/30/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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wutang said:
so i spawned some poo/straw coffee and coir with OI rye.
colonized, then cased with vermiculite.





They say brf is good for noobs. Straight off the cake :biker:


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: layzdapipe]
    #7472068 - 09/30/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

vermiculite isn't for noobs, pf is. what are you trying to say?
pazzy i've given them 24 hours of light, and now they are having darkness.
this may have something to do with it.
i like to use 24 hour light when they pin (makes them mature faster)
and then give it darkness hours to sleep.
i've never tried it before pinning, so its sleeping now.


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: wutang]
    #7472072 - 09/30/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Wutang I wouldn't be worried yet. Maybe worry after 8 or 9 days w/o any pins.

Casings not like a cake where you can see the pins forming. They'll just kind of pop thru all at once. Your spawn was completely colonized?


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: mushbaby]
    #7472075 - 09/30/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

about 90% white.
okay, ill check in a couple days


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: wutang]
    #7472090 - 09/30/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

wutang said:
so i spawned some poo/straw coffee and coir with OI rye.
colonized, then cased with vermiculite.





They say brf is good for noobs. Straight off the cake :biker:




Quote:

wutang said:
vermiculite isn't for noobs, pf is.  what are you trying to say?





You answered your own question. :flowstone:


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: layzdapipe]
    #7472115 - 09/30/07 09:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

dont hint come out with it! dont post if you're not going to help, stay on topic please, thank you


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: wutang]
    #7472130 - 09/30/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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dont hint come out with it!  dont post if you're not going to help, stay on topic please, thank you




Ignore me so you cant post in my threads. . I did stay on topic, just as much as you stayed on topic in my thread earlier today. :flowstone:


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Re: why no pins yet? [Re: layzdapipe]
    #7472138 - 09/30/07 09:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

stfu puppet!
ignoring.
thank you


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