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OfflineAlCapwn
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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #7471042 - 09/30/07 04:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe we could make the head of the DEA legalize marijuana.


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7471050 - 09/30/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

no that is crazy talk


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OfflineAlCapwn
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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: Adom]
    #7471068 - 09/30/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Crazy enough that it might actually works.


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7471081 - 09/30/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

wow, i hope i never get dosed with that shit.


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: pong]
    #7471088 - 09/30/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Don't be a fool


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #7471252 - 09/30/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Quoiyaien said:
That some crazy shit. I wonder if it has any potential therapeutic benefits?




It's been used in medical practices for years. They even have a scopolamine transdermal patch that works like a nicotine/ritalin/fentanyl patch.


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #7471255 - 09/30/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Any links to read up on the actual chemical itself? 

Trip reports? :hehehe:

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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7471263 - 09/30/07 05:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

the drug dealer guy that got them the drug
is fucking nuts


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7471275 - 09/30/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Those pussies didn't even try any. What shitty journalists.


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: jewunit]
    #7471296 - 09/30/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

maybe they did and they just dont know it?


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7471495 - 09/30/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

erowid has some good reports of a pure extracted trip report. sounds intesly draining.
aperently the guy went to work the next day and did paperwork without even knowing it, then came back to reality mid conversation with a coworker and had no idea what he was talking about or what he had done the dy before


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7471506 - 09/30/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Alot of haitians will mix datura and blowfish to make zombie slaves.

"According to the tenets of Voodoo, a dead person can be revived by a bokor or Voodoo sorcerer. Zombies remain under the control of the bokor since they have no will of their own. "Zombi" is also another name of the Voodoo snake god Damballah Wedo, of Niger-Congo origin; it is akin to the Kongo word nzambi, which means "god". There also exists within the voudon tradition the zombi astral which is a human soul that is captured by a bokor and used to enhance the bokor's power.

In 1937, while researching folklore in Haiti, Zora Neale Hurston encountered the case of Felicia Felix-Mentor, who had died and been buried in 1907 at the age of 29. Villagers believed they saw Felicia wandering the streets in a daze thirty years after her death, as well as claiming the same with several other people. Hurston pursued rumors that the affected persons were given powerful drugs, but she was unable to locate individuals willing to offer much information. She wrote:

"What is more, if science ever gets to the bottom of Voodoo in Haiti and Africa, it will be found that some important medical secrets, still unknown to medical science, give it its power, rather than gestures of ceremony." [1]

Several decades later, Wade Davis, a Canadian ethnobotanist, presented a pharmacological case for zombies in two books, The Serpent and the Rainbow (1985) and Passage of Darkness: The Ethnobiology of the Haitian Zombie (1988). Davis traveled to Haiti in 1982 and, as a result of his investigations, claimed that a living person can be turned into a zombie by two special powders being entered into the blood stream (usually via a wound). The first, coup de poudre (French: 'powder strike'), induced a 'death-like' state because of tetrodotoxin (TTX), its key ingredient. Tetrodotoxin is the same lethal toxin found in the Japanese delicacy fugu, or pufferfish. At near-lethal doses (LD50= 5-8µg/kg)[2], it can leave a person in a state of near-death for several days, while the person continues to be conscious. The second powder, composed of dissociatives like datura, put the person in a zombie-like state where they seem to have no will of their own. Davis also popularized the story of Clairvius Narcisse, who was claimed to have succumbed to this practice. There remains considerable skepticism about Davis's claims,[3] although there is wide belief among the Haitian people of the existence of the "zombie drug". The Voodoon religion being somewhat secretive in its practices and codes, it can be very difficult for a foreign scientist to validate or invalidate such claims.

Others have discussed the contribution of the victim's own belief system, possibly leading to compliance with the attacker's will, causing psychogenic ("quasi-hysterical") amnesia, catatonia, or other psychological disorders, which are later misinterpreted as a return from the dead. Scottish psychiatrist R. D. Laing further highlighted the link between social and cultural expectations and compulsion, in the context of schizophrenia and other mental illness, suggesting that schizogenesis may account for some of the psychological aspects of zombification."


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: Hakim0777]
    #7471547 - 09/30/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

thats some crazy shit


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: Quoiyaien]
    #7471750 - 09/30/07 08:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That's really interesting, the guy withdrew over $3000 gave it away and didn't even remember it.

I wonder if any has made its way up to the US, could be some bad situations...


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: StriplessRED]
    #7471758 - 09/30/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I am sure this stuff is not like its brand spankin new. People have known of it for a long time. Someone just decided to do a report on it now. I would not be worried at all.


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #7471989 - 09/30/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Quoiyaien said:
That some crazy shit. I wonder if it has any potential therapeutic benefits?




It's been used in medical practices for years. They even have a scopolamine transdermal patch that works like a nicotine/ritalin/fentanyl patch.




You beat me to it.
Scopolamine has been around for a very long time now. Hell it's been on Erowid for years now. I just used the patch not a long time ago to go to the amusement park. It's the strongest anti-motion sickness medications you can get without a script.
Very low dose however, i beleive the entire patch has some 1.5mg of scopolamine in it, and it's absorbed quite slow into your system.


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: RuNE]
    #7472050 - 09/30/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It was also quite common in OTC sleep aids up until 1990.

And the US Government did do extensive research on it as a possible truth serum in the 50's under project MKULTRA. They found that it worked pretty well except for the fact that it's hallucinogenic effects severely distorted peoples perception of the truth.


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #7472095 - 09/30/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

WakeboardrB said:
Quote:

Quoiyaien said:
That some crazy shit. I wonder if it has any potential therapeutic benefits?




It's been used in medical practices for years. They even have a scopolamine transdermal patch that works like a nicotine/ritalin/fentanyl patch.




Isn't anyone here old enough to remember that this was the active ingredient in over the counter sleep aids years ago?

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Oops, I didn't get around to hitting the submit button until after the last poster.


Edited by El Zorro (09/30/07 09:39 PM)


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #7472109 - 09/30/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

so wait...
can anyone clarify/
is that news report actually true? are the effects just like that?


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Re: The Zombie Drug [Re: El Zorro]
    #7472110 - 09/30/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting stuff.
We should make a zombie army with it!  :grin:


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