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    #7468300 - 09/29/07 08:28 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

There has been a lot of talk (good and bad) about Spores101 on this here site. Thought I'd better throw in my two cents' worth.

I live in a country where shrooms, and indeed spores (hypothetically, of course) can get me some serious jail-time, so I wanted the spores posted to my friend in the UK, who could then repackage them to my satisfaction before they were nervously dispatched to the fascist autocracy where I reside.

I posted my cold hard cash to Spores101, yes, actual Yankee dollars, and they sent my order straight to the UK. Small problem though, I'd sent a hand written order, not an online form, and they'd sent me syringes, not prints.

I emailed them and straight away they said keep the syringes and sent out spores asap. (As a side note, if anyone in the UK wants the syringes, PM me and we can work something out).

The spores were repacked and arrived here safe and sound.

Only good things do I have to say about Spores101. I think that in any mail order-retail business mistakes will happen, and, how shall I say it?. When your customers may be partial to recreation, things may be more easily confused. I'll certainly order from them again.

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Re: Spores101 [Re: monkeybus]
    #7468358 - 09/29/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, if they make a mistake they will never let a customer leave unhappy.


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And the cup he brings, though it burn your lips,
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Re: Spores101 [Re: simplystoned]
    #7468493 - 09/29/07 09:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

:rockon:


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Re: Spores101 [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
    #7468502 - 09/29/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

:rockon:------------:dielaughing:-----~--:dielaughing:


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Re: Spores101 [Re: monkeybus]
    #7468603 - 09/29/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I think when it comes down to it, if your not retarded or a child, they are good people... Its when the kiddies get on here that problems happen...

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Re: Spores101 [Re: implee]
    #7468625 - 09/29/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I've never done any business with them.So, I can't say how good they are

I just didn't like how they use someone else pictures.( You're a company, with three stores, two in the US and one in the UK and you can't take you own pictures of legal mushrooms.:shake: )

Edited by Brainiac (09/29/07 10:37 PM)

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Brainiac]
    #7472614 - 10/01/07 12:57 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Braniac you cleary have no idea what your talking about.

Just wait for the new spores101.com website to be released very soon.

Also I don't understand why you would come and post like that.. if you dont know anything about spores101's business why are you talking about them?

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Shroomtalk]
    #7473218 - 10/01/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Look at this one,now look at this one


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Re: Spores101 [Re: Brainiac]
    #7473783 - 10/01/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Bah, shit like that happens bro. The real question is did they have permission to rip the pic off, if they indeed ripped it off.

You'll also notice that several of the P Cube strains have the exact same pictures for different strains even on the same page. I personally do not expect them to grow and take pictures of every strain they have, it'd be ridiculous (and illegal).


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For his hand, though heavy and hard, is guided
by the tender hand of the Unseen,
And the cup he brings, though it burn your lips,
has been fashioned of the clay which the Potter
has moistened with His own sacred tears." - Kahlil Gibran

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Re: Spores101 [Re: simplystoned]
    #7474272 - 10/01/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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simplystoned said:
Bah, shit like that happens bro. The real question is did they have permission to rip the pic off, if they indeed ripped it off.

You'll also notice that several of the P Cube strains have the exact same pictures for different strains even on the same page. I personally do not expect them to grow and take pictures of every strain they have, it'd be ridiculous (and illegal).




The answer is a resounding no.
They do not have permission to steal Workmans pictures
and his text. Absolutely not. I doubt Paul Stamets is very happy
about it either.
And there is certainly no excuse for stealing like that.
These are legal, edible mushrooms, of course they're expected
to produce their own pictures. Stealing copyrighted information
is not kosher.
This is not the first time they've done it, this has happened before.
It was not acceptable then, nor is it now.


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Re: Spores101 [Re: monstermitch]
    #7474322 - 10/01/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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monstermitch said:
Quote:

simplystoned said:
Bah, shit like that happens bro. The real question is did they have permission to rip the pic off, if they indeed ripped it off.

You'll also notice that several of the P Cube strains have the exact same pictures for different strains even on the same page. I personally do not expect them to grow and take pictures of every strain they have, it'd be ridiculous (and illegal).




The answer is a resounding no.
They do not have permission to steal Workmans pictures
and his text.  Absolutely not.  I doubt Paul Stamets is very happy
about it either.
And there is certainly no excuse for stealing like that.
These are legal, edible mushrooms, of course they're expected
to produce their own pictures.  Stealing copyrighted information
is not kosher.
This is not the first time they've done it, this has happened before.
It was not acceptable then, nor is it now.




:handth:


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Re: Spores101 [Re: Brainiac]
    #7474381 - 10/01/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Point made. I wonder what spores101 has to say about this.


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For his hand, though heavy and hard, is guided
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And the cup he brings, though it burn your lips,
has been fashioned of the clay which the Potter
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Re: Spores101 [Re: monstermitch]
    #7474402 - 10/01/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

monstermitch said:
Quote:

simplystoned said:
Bah, shit like that happens bro. The real question is did they have permission to rip the pic off, if they indeed ripped it off.

You'll also notice that several of the P Cube strains have the exact same pictures for different strains even on the same page. I personally do not expect them to grow and take pictures of every strain they have, it'd be ridiculous (and illegal).




The answer is a resounding no.
They do not have permission to steal Workmans pictures
and his text. Absolutely not. I doubt Paul Stamets is very happy
about it either.
And there is certainly no excuse for stealing like that.
These are legal, edible mushrooms, of course they're expected
to produce their own pictures. Stealing copyrighted information
is not kosher.
This is not the first time they've done it, this has happened before.
It was not acceptable then, nor is it now.




Mitch -

You used to work for us so I don't see where you get off with all these comments. Everything we have on our web site has been okay'd with the proper sources and you know it. I'm sorry we couldnt do business anymore but you don't need to redirect your anger by bashing us in the forums.

We are also days away from releasing our new site with updated EVERYTHING.

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Spores_101]
    #7474437 - 10/01/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Used to work for you? I think partnership is the appropriate term here. It's my understanding that Monstermitch supplied you folks with the substrate bags Mushbox used to sell. I would hardly call that working for you, at least in the context you're putting it. :rolleyes:

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Spores_101 said

Everything we have on our web site has been okay'd with the proper sources and you know it.




I'm assuming you mean by your attorneys with that comment. I've spoken with the vendors who have these photos posted and I was given the impression they were taken without permission. I don't think anyone is saying what you did was illegal, but ethics do play a significant role here.

Anyway, I'm ranting now. Please, continue this discussion.

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Wronguy]
    #7474492 - 10/01/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

This discussion came up months ago and from my understanding it was taken care of between all parties involved and we recently redesigned the entire spores101 website to reflect the issues at hand.

The new site will speak for itself.

We apologize to anyone who is offended by us or think we are not reputable company. If you don't want to buy from us that's O.K. because there are tons of other excellent vendors here.

We pay our monthly fees and try our best to not only satisfy our customers but to forward them to these forums so that they can experience the education and information we all have.

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Spores_101]
    #7474500 - 10/01/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

SPORES101_COM said:
Mitch -

You used to work for us so I don't see where you get off with all these comments. Everything we have on our web site has been okay'd with the proper sources and you know it. I'm sorry we couldnt do business anymore but you don't need to redirect your anger by bashing us in the forums.

We are also days away from releasing our new site with updated EVERYTHING.




You sir are a liar.
I never worked for your company, nor would I ever.
You used to work for me if you want to say it like that.
Your company retailed my products, making you an employee
of mine if anything.

Your company certainly does not have permission to have
those photos and that text posted on your site. If you do,
please have Sporeworks or Workman comment here saying so.
Because as I understand it, they've been stolen, not borrowed
with permission.

Your company and I are a separate matter all together.
If you would like, I'll post here the history between us so everyone
can decide for themselves.


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Re: Spores101 [Re: Wronguy]
    #7474502 - 10/01/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Wronguy said:
Used to work for you? I think partnership is the appropriate term here.




I see what you are saying but in our company a "partner" would be someone with a huge amount of invested interest and contribution from the begining. Not someone we bought 100 compost bags from.

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Spores_101]
    #7474596 - 10/01/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I'm well aware that my opinion here doesn't matter at all, but I thought I'd throw my two cents in, seeing how this is all public:

Quote:

We apologize to anyone who is offended by us or think we are not reputable company. If you don't want to buy from us that's O.K. because there are tons of other excellent vendors here.





That sure seems like a company trying to keep their business


Quote:


We pay our monthly fees and try our best to not only satisfy our customers but to forward them to these forums so that they can experience the education and information we all have.





I don't think anybody can deny that you are a company who satisfies your customers (if my situation was any indication). And, for the record, I purchased from spores101 before ever coming onto the shroomery (A friend, Jorsher, turned me onto both), so your site does bring in a lot of traffic to the forums.


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If you would like, I'll post here the history between us so everyone
can decide for themselves.




I dunno if spores101 would like it, but I certainly would, just for shits and giggles. Stealing shit from other sites certainly is not something I would do, but I don't know about you. Perhaps you are a company that is a little more ethically loose then me, to each his own. If your attorneys say it's OK legally then right on to you, but BTW it's a real dick move.

Quote:


This discussion came up months ago and from my understanding it was taken care of between all parties involved and we recently redesigned the entire spores101 website to reflect the issues at hand.





If it was brought up months ago, how come the stolen pictures are still on your website? You never answered, are they indeed stolen?

Oh, and by the way, if you retail somebody else's shit for them you are more of an employee to them as they are to you.

Drama!


P.S. This is totally off topic, but a little birdie told me spores101 is based in california and has mail forwarders in Canada and the other location (I don't remember, georgia or some shit?). The orders go to the Canada office or the other office and then are forwarded to the real people, in Cali, and packages are shipped the same way. I've been told this is an explanation for why it takes so long for spores101 to receive regular postage. Anybody know if this is true? Just curious.


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"Your pain is the breaking of the shell which encloses your understanding. It is the bitter potion by which the physician within you heals your sick self. Therefore trust the physician, and drink his remedy in silence and tranquility:

For his hand, though heavy and hard, is guided
by the tender hand of the Unseen,
And the cup he brings, though it burn your lips,
has been fashioned of the clay which the Potter
has moistened with His own sacred tears." - Kahlil Gibran

Edited by simplystoned (10/01/07 04:36 PM)

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Re: Spores101 [Re: simplystoned]
    #7474624 - 10/01/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

im sorry i read this. the plantiff should stop ragging in public, forcing 101 to respond in this venue. Its petty and has nothing to do with ME. (the end user.) feel free to use any pretty pictures i post to the internet as they have not been published or copyrighted. Just dont credit me without asking because i prolly stole them myself.  :chillpill:


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Re: Spores101 [Re: rodfarva]
    #7474630 - 10/01/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Bah, I think it's great! If this doesn't have a public ending would one of the parties involved please let me know how it turns out? :laugh:


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For his hand, though heavy and hard, is guided
by the tender hand of the Unseen,
And the cup he brings, though it burn your lips,
has been fashioned of the clay which the Potter
has moistened with His own sacred tears." - Kahlil Gibran

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Re: Spores101 [Re: simplystoned]
    #7474643 - 10/01/07 04:37 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

It just reminds me about this time i really liked this girl and she sliped up and said something about going out with another guy. I was like "bitch im fucking someone else to, dont TELL me about it."  :dogpile:  We've been married for 6 years.





.... no, not really.


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Re: Spores101 [Re: rodfarva]
    #7474654 - 10/01/07 04:42 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Rod: I think I'm in love with you.


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For his hand, though heavy and hard, is guided
by the tender hand of the Unseen,
And the cup he brings, though it burn your lips,
has been fashioned of the clay which the Potter
has moistened with His own sacred tears." - Kahlil Gibran

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Re: Spores101 [Re: simplystoned]
    #7474682 - 10/01/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

simplystoned said:
P.S. This is totally off topic, but a little birdie told me spores101 is based in california ...




Many of their spores are illegal in California, so I doubt it.


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Re: Spores101 [Re: monstermitch]
    #7474687 - 10/01/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

That's partly why I'm asking. Forget I ever said anything about that.


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For his hand, though heavy and hard, is guided
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And the cup he brings, though it burn your lips,
has been fashioned of the clay which the Potter
has moistened with His own sacred tears." - Kahlil Gibran

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Re: Spores101 [Re: simplystoned]
    #7474693 - 10/01/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Rod: I think I'm in love with you.



word. :69:


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Re: Spores101 [Re: rodfarva]
    #7477465 - 10/02/07 01:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Lets try and sort this out right now.

Regarding Mitch and Mushbox... its coming down to a matter of opinion and terminology so its pretty harsh to call spores101 a LIAR.

Mitch you were surely NOT a partner, so your the one lying lol. A partner gets a share of the entire profits from a company. If anything you were a manufacturer of one single product among many that Mushbox sells. So if you want to get right down to it, correct you were not an employee, you are not a partner, but you were simply a wholesaler / manufacturer. Sorry for not getting the exact terminology out but you should really hold your tongue when it comes to flinging out the "L" word. Nobody lied about anything.

Now to sort out the situation regarding the images. A little while ago there was some stink about some images spores101 was using, and the situation was totally resolved. So if anyone else has a problem with the images, we are all ears. It's not like we are hiding anything, its not like we don't respond to emails and threads. So we are eagerly awaiting for anyone who has a complaint regarding our images to stand up and let us know so we can correct the issue.

Also what spores101 said, very soon, there will be a massive update and entire new website for spores101.com, all the images have been replaced and updated with better ones. When the website is live you can check each image. If we are in violation of using anyones images without permission we will apologize, compensate, and remove them immediately.

Mitch is clearly angry with Mushbox.com, and what rodfarva said nailed the situation. We have nothing to hide and also have copies of all the conversations, I would hate to bring that drama here but if thats what will help solve the lame whining then we will share anything as long as its in compliance with Shroomery rules.

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Shroomtalk]
    #7477501 - 10/02/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

An email i got from FP about it.

I know about that and have tried to deal with it.. The guy who runs the site is not so nice.. and admits stealing all his images but doesn''t care.. Drop him an email and see what you get for a response.. Don't know how he is still in business with that attitude..

Fungi Perfecti LLC


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Re: Spores101 [Re: Shroomtalk]
    #7477516 - 10/02/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Shroomtalk said:
Lets try and sort this out right now.

Regarding Mitch and Mushbox... its coming down to a matter of opinion and terminology so its pretty harsh to call spores101 a LIAR.

Mitch you were surely NOT a partner, so your the one lying lol. A partner gets a share of the entire profits from a company. If anything you were a manufacturer of one single product among many that Mushbox sells. So if you want to get right down to it, correct you were not an employee, you are not a partner, but you were simply a wholesaler / manufacturer. Sorry for not getting the exact terminology out but you should really hold your tongue when it comes to flinging out the "L" word. Nobody lied about anything.

Now to sort out the situation regarding the images. A little while ago there was some stink about some images spores101 was using, and the situation was totally resolved. So if anyone else has a problem with the images, we are all ears. It's not like we are hiding anything, its not like we don't respond to emails and threads. So we are eagerly awaiting for anyone who has a complaint regarding our images to stand up and let us know so we can correct the issue.

Also what spores101 said, very soon, there will be a massive update and entire new website for spores101.com, all the images have been replaced and updated with better ones. When the website is live you can check each image. If we are in violation of using anyones images without permission we will apologize, compensate, and remove them immediately.

Mitch is clearly angry with Mushbox.com, and what rodfarva said nailed the situation. We have nothing to hide and also have copies of all the conversations, I would hate to bring that drama here but if thats what will help solve the lame whining then we will share anything as long as its in compliance with Shroomery rules.




Yes, you are liars.
You said that I used to work for you, I never did.
I never said anything about being partners, we weren't that either.
Your company simply retailed my products, simple as that.
I never lied about anything, so don't you dare say I did.

It's simple, I don't see how you can't figure this out for yourself:
Quote:

SPORES101_COM said:
Mitch -

You used to work for us so I don't see where you get off with all these comments. Everything we have on our web site has been okay'd with the proper sources and you know it. I'm sorry we couldnt do business anymore but you don't need to redirect your anger by bashing us in the forums.

We are also days away from releasing our new site with updated EVERYTHING.




This is a lie. I never worked for you.
Another lie in this post is how you've confirmed all of your
pictures and text, and that I know it.
Well I know Workman and Sporeworks never agreed to let
you use their pictures or text, they've been battling with you
for a long time to get you to stop stealing their stuff.
Also Fungi Perfecti has not allowed/confirmed your use of their
pictures, as you can read in the above message from them.

Lies, plain and simple.
So go ahead, post away about you and I. Everyone's waiting.


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Re: Spores101 [Re: monkeybus]
    #7477542 - 10/02/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

That is NOT us... we have NEVER had an email from Fungi Perfecti.

You must be referring to sporebank, they are the ones who steal images and don't respond. They are using all of the images from sporebank, spores101, and fungi.

Sorry but that is totally unfair and incorrect. We have NEVER been contacted by FP and would of course respond and comply if he did ask us to remove images. You have us confused with someone else, please get your information right before making accusations like that.

The new spores101.com will be live tonight / tomorrow and that tuber image will not be on the site.

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Shroomtalk]
    #7477550 - 10/02/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

That e-mail was sent to the user that posted it.
He sent fungi perfecti an e-mail to notify them of their pictures
on your site.
That e-mail was their response to him.


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Re: Spores101 [Re: monkeybus]
    #7477563 - 10/02/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

We have talked to sporeworks and totally removed all images that were theres.

If they still have a problem Mitch that is there business and not yours so I would appreciate it if you would stop rubbing your nose were it doesn't belong. If Workman wants to talk to me he knows how to get hold of me.

I also already explained the terminology issue and really made that clear so you need to go back and read my last post. I said you were a manufacturer, its not that we were LYING about anything mitch it was a matter of terminology, you made product for us, and we paid you for it, THAT can be considered as you "working for us" lol... in my opinion that is exactly what it means. Nobody lied about anything, your really need to calm down and stop flinging that "L" word about.

And whats between me and you will stay that way until you make the first move for public sharing... If you want to bring out our dirty laundry for everyone here to smell then I am going to follow your lead.

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Shroomtalk]
    #7477649 - 10/02/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I try to avoid posting in threads obviously intended for other vendors but since sporeworks and my name have been mentioned I will respond.

This thread has made me aware that there are still several images and even directly lifted text from sporeworks.com still on spores101.com

Although some have been removed it did take several months for this to happen.

It is my understanding that some sporeworks images will not be removed because they are also on sporebank (also unauthorized use). Apparently this is justified because of a business deal with sporebank that went bad.

I should mention that I just do R&D for sporeworks.com and don't deal directly with this sort of issue. Please address questions to customer service at the sporeworks.com website.


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Re: Spores101 [Re: monkeybus]
    #7477804 - 10/02/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I sincerly apologize for the delay on changing the images. It was difficult to determine exactly what ones were who's when sporebank is stealing images as well.. They did use some of our original images so we copied all of there images in retaliation but soon realized they were actually stolen from sporeworks originally.

I have said it before and will say it again, if we are using images that are in violation to any other vendors we will immediately remove them and compensate if necessary.

The new spores101.com will be live tonight / tomorrow, if we are still using anyones images of course we will immediately remove them. We never intended to piss anyone off or blatantly abuse images so again I apologize for using anything that was not permissible. But until the actual owner of said images contacts us to verify and point out the exact images we can't really do anything.

Edited by Shroomtalk (10/02/07 03:24 PM)

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Re: Spores101 [Re: monkeybus]
    #7477839 - 10/02/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Well I am still adamantly stating we have never been contacted by FP so am positive that FP has us confused with sporebank.

WHY would we want to cause shit with FP? of course we wouldn't.

Same with sporeworks... we respect and admire FP and sporeworks for the work they do... we get a variety of our stuff from FP and sporeworks already so we of course want to keep a good relationship with them.

If FP contacted us and mentioned images I absolutely, positively, guarantee we would have freaked out and immediately removed any images.

Again I don't understand why Mitch feels like this is any of his business.. I guess he just enjoys throwing sand in our face and likes to stoke the fire.

Coming on the Shroomery and posting an email that FP "apparently" made is absolute hearsay. If we could get him on the forums I am sure its a case of confusion, due to the number of websites using FP's images I doubt he can keep track of each one. FP has NEVER contacted spores101 about images.

Edited by Shroomtalk (10/02/07 03:59 PM)

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Shroomtalk]
    #7477880 - 10/02/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think it should be the responsibilty of the image owner to track down every instance of unauthorized use. Sporeworks.com makes sure every image we use is either our own, used with permission or we purchase the rights. In my opinion it would be better to use no image at all than to use random images of uncertain ownership. But I'm funny that way.


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Re: Spores101 [Re: Workman]
    #7477962 - 10/02/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Your totally right Workman, I agree 100% and we have adopted a new policy for the images right after sporeworks brought the original issue to our attention a few months ago. As I stated the new website will be live very soon and MOST of the images are ours... I admit some are from the internet and submissions from Shroomtalk forums from growers, but NONE of them should be in violation of sporeworks or FP's images.

I also stated that the only reason we had images that were sporeworks was because we were trying to get even with sporebank for stealing our products and images. After we copied all of there images on an older site it was brought to our attention that the images sporebank was using were actually all stolen, so that move on our part was very bad but we did try and make amends, it did take a bit of time ( already apologized for that also ) but we DID remove the sporeworks images.

I just want to make it clear that we are not trying to piss anyone off, or steal images. We should have put more effort in to getting our own content earlier on but it does take a bit of time and our new website should show this effort.

We are here and in the open, we are not denying or hiding the fact a mistake was made. And we will do anything necessary to amend the situation. But to be sure of exactly what images are in question we would need the owner of said images to verify that, sorry if that takes effort on that persons behalf but its necessary to protect a copyright, the internet is like the wild west so using someone else's images is an easy mistake, thats all it is, a mistake. Not blatant abuse of copyrighted images.

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Re: Spores101 [Re: Shroomtalk]
    #7478184 - 10/02/07 05:21 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Spores101 [Re: Roadkill]
    #7478908 - 10/02/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I just found this on Reuters...

"News alert! war on drugs takes new aim: magic mushroom users. A recent study of online forums sugests that the use of Psilicybin mushrooms increases emotional reactions and drama, especially related to "online pictures." Subjects are said to violently type about the apperance of their hand in photos and exzhibit signs of being internet gang bangers, ready to hit the cyber streets to protect their territory." :fishsmack:


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Re: Spores101 [Re: rodfarva]
    #7479158 - 10/02/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Ill sell you a picture:tongue2:

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