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OfflineConnemaraMarble
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Bad burn session question..
    #7466803 - 09/29/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I was with a bunch of my friends last night, and some of us decided to stay back and get high while the others wanted to go for a walk (the non-smoking crowd). We stayed back, hot boxed the bathroom, and had a good time.

The others got back, so we finished up and went to go talk to them. A few minutes later, though, I got called into a bedroom. One of my friends had hit too much, and she was flipping out. Her main concern seemed to be that she didn't want to "look like a fool" in front of the sober crowd, over which she was really working herself up. She also kept asking for a few certain people to be in the room, but it wasn't possible to get just them in there, because it would have divided the group and ruined everyone's night. I tried to calm her down, but she wouldn't listen to me, and she wouldn't let me leave the room for a long time. It was terrible.

I wasn't very baked at the time, but even in my state she was beginning to scare me (I have some mild anxiety problems). I got one of my other friends into the bedroom, one of the ones she wanted, and I got outta there.

I don't feel guilty about leaving; I know if I got worked up, she'd get worse, and it would ruin everyone's night. This experience makes me concerned about the future, though. That evening, I had been explaining things about mushrooms to her, and she's very interested in them, but after this, I'm not sure what to do. The environment she'd do it in is very controlled; just one room, with me and another one of my friends who has quite a bit of experience, and everything would be calm and safe.. but I'm not sure now.

I feel a little selfish in saying that I don't want to ruin my trip, but if she flipped out like last night, I'd probably loose it too, and I haven't had a bad trip yet, so I have no idea how I'd react, and that's something I don't want to lay on our friend.

What would your decision be if this happened? How do I tell her if the decision becomes that we don't want to do mush around her?

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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: ConnemaraMarble]
    #7466925 - 09/29/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

she didn't want to be too fucked up in front of sober people. I don't like to either anymore.

I think mushrooms would be fine. as long as everyone around her was also tripping.

i personally refuse to trip around people that aren't. For some reason i just can't act like my self tripping around sober people.


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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: drSE]
    #7466931 - 09/29/07 10:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Tripping around sober people is like swimming in the kiddie section of a pool when you KNOW you are supposed to be at the deep end.


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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: ConnemaraMarble]
    #7466932 - 09/29/07 10:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Dude if she freaks out like that on bud, then I would advise her not to take mucks. Weed is preschool compared to mucks.


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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: zepp420]
    #7466943 - 09/29/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

it doesn't sound like she was freaking out. it sounds like she was just really scared that she was going to make an ass out of herself, and would rather stay in a comfortable situation. But didn't want to do it alone.


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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: drSE]
    #7467038 - 09/29/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

sounds to me like she cares way too much about what other people think



thats the root of her problem, and should be adressed.


she'll never get anywhere or be happy in life if she's constantly trying to please the crowd. that goes way beyond getting high.


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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7467039 - 09/29/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Apollyphelion said:
Tripping around sober people is like swimming in the kiddie section of a pool when you KNOW you are supposed to be at the deep end.



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Ha, thats great!
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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: lavod]
    #7467041 - 09/29/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

93?


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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: drSE]
    #7467300 - 09/29/07 01:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

One of the things with her, though, is that she hasn't ever really had a GOOD burn session. The first time we did it and she actually got baked, she got stressed out (I can't remember why) and you can see what happened this time. I'm worried that, if we did shrooms, she would think that she's predisposed to having bad trips, and she'd just go into hysterics again. With her, it's quite possible.

I called over to the house today, and they got her calmed down and whatnot, but I think that if she got worked up when the shrooms are only beginning to kick in, we might not be able to do anything, since it only gets harder until you peak.


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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: zepp420]
    #7467318 - 09/29/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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zepp420 said:
Dude if she freaks out like that on bud, then I would advise her not to take mucks. Weed is preschool compared to mucks.




It wasn't that she was freaking out, persay, but she just kept working herself up over it. I can understand not wanting to make an ass out of herself for sure, but she kept telling herself that "this isn't fun, I'm not having fun, this isn't good" which was only adding to the problem.


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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: ConnemaraMarble]
    #7467397 - 09/29/07 01:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Is she an experienced smoker? Because people only freak like that from the paranoia from smoking weed for the first time. If she's never really smoked before, just smoke with her a couple more times in a smaller, closer group. But if is an experienced smoker and she's like that with weed, don't give her shrooms. Ever. Never give her shrooms. She obviously has something wrong inside and giving her shrooms would definitely bring that out, but then again a bad trip could fix that too.

I don't think I could stand being around someone like that.


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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: Essen]
    #7467443 - 09/29/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know exactly what to think, but the image I get in my mind is
a young girl who is very controlled by her emotions and has a habit of turning things into a drama session for apparently no reason. Not to offend you or her, that's just the image I get in my mind.

Maybe she was afraid that someone in the group, like maybe someone she liked would see her high and she thought she would look stupid to him, or that she would embarrased because they are the more responsible sober people and you're just silly potheads. I don't know, just some ideas.

i don't know for sure because I still havn't done shrooms myself, but I have done acid a few times, not that I would do it again..but I wouldn't give her anything until you're sure she's stable and isn't prone to getting too excited.Make sure she knows the reason why she's doing them in the first place and that she wants to do them and doesn't doubt and that's she's in a safe enviroment where the sober world won't bust in on her.


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Re: Bad burn session question.. [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
    #7467455 - 09/29/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This girl will NOT like mushrooms. Advise her to never take them. She clearly does not like feeling out of control. If you give her mushrooms she will begin with "this isn't fun", move on to "take me to the hospital" and end with "That evil man fed me magic mushroom. I love Jesus".

Then a judge will bang his hammer and sentence you to DOUBLE CASTRATION!


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