|
wps
Well-PaidScientist


Registered: 09/22/07
Posts: 579
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
#7465911 - 09/28/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I'm pretty sure the shutdown is only temporary. It seems that the month of October just isn't in the budget.
I imagine the state will be back up and running again after a bit.
-------------------- "America touts itself as the land of the free, but the number one freedom that you and I have is the freedom to enter into a subservient role in the workplace. Once you exercise this freedom you've lost all control over what you do, what is produced, and how it is produced. And in the end, the product doesn't belong to you. The only way you can avoid bosses and jobs is if you don't care about making a living. Which leads to the second freedom: the freedom to starve." - Tom Morello
|
CosmicFunGuy
ॐconsciousnessॐ




Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 2,127
Loc: ∞
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: wps]
#7465925 - 09/28/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
i'm sure it will be... thats why the time to revolt is NOW.... get your drugs and guns and come help me build a perimeter, we'll make our own money...
okay as much as i wanted this to be serious discussion of the matter i'm wayyyy to tired to be serious, so i'm gong to bed and i'll read the rational response tomorrow after my state doesn't operate any more.
i still don't think getting dealers and growers to band together to fix the debt problem is all that unrealistic...
--------------------
♫ ♪ In the garden of many fields, there is no me or you. There is no right or wrong. There is no up or down. There is no black or white. Everyone is the plow man. Everyone is the seed. Everyone harvests and everyone yields. In the garden of many fields, everyone is one with one love and one love is one with everyone. ♪ ♫ lyrics from: Transglobal Underground - Eyeway Souljah (from Psychic Karaoke)
|
CosmicFunGuy
ॐconsciousnessॐ




Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 2,127
Loc: ∞
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
#7465929 - 09/28/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
maybe we'll join canada....
--------------------
♫ ♪ In the garden of many fields, there is no me or you. There is no right or wrong. There is no up or down. There is no black or white. Everyone is the plow man. Everyone is the seed. Everyone harvests and everyone yields. In the garden of many fields, everyone is one with one love and one love is one with everyone. ♪ ♫ lyrics from: Transglobal Underground - Eyeway Souljah (from Psychic Karaoke)
|
Gratos
Just thinkin anddrinkin

Registered: 08/21/05
Posts: 1,374
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
#7465935 - 09/28/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Drugs and guns the government could almost live with but dont think for a second the fed would allow you to print your own money.
EDIT: Hell, the gov cant even print its own money.
Edited by Gratos (09/28/07 10:47 PM)
|
gcdc14
DissociatedLunatic


Registered: 10/20/06
Posts: 160
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
#7465937 - 09/28/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
That'd be sweet!
--------------------
|
derx
who run it


Registered: 05/29/03
Posts: 2,459
Loc: dx/dt
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: wps]
#7465941 - 09/28/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
the state is totally fucked and has been fucked for a while now.
i read that state police will continue normal operation due to safety reasons, but all of the extra shit people don't need for protection will cease: SOS, road construction, etc..
-------------------- better living through chemistry OVERGROW the government!! it's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom, ok, thats what it is.
|
CosmicFunGuy
ॐconsciousnessॐ




Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 2,127
Loc: ∞
Last seen: 1 year, 2 months
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: derx]
#7465952 - 09/28/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
hey derx, hows it goin?!
either way fuck the police we can overtake them..
like i said i'm off to bed now see ya guys in the morning... oh shit i'm moving tomorrow, i'll be on sometime..
--------------------
♫ ♪ In the garden of many fields, there is no me or you. There is no right or wrong. There is no up or down. There is no black or white. Everyone is the plow man. Everyone is the seed. Everyone harvests and everyone yields. In the garden of many fields, everyone is one with one love and one love is one with everyone. ♪ ♫ lyrics from: Transglobal Underground - Eyeway Souljah (from Psychic Karaoke)
|
StrandedVoyager
The People's Champ




Registered: 12/09/04
Posts: 3,236
Loc: (202)-456-1414 Call Me
Last seen: 7 years, 5 months
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
#7466031 - 09/28/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
This is kind of scary...
-------------------- Hi
My god... it's full of stars...
|
DNKYD
Turtle!

Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 12,326
|
|
Yes, it is pretty scary living in a state led by a bunch of hacks with their heads up their asses.
|
StrandedVoyager
The People's Champ




Registered: 12/09/04
Posts: 3,236
Loc: (202)-456-1414 Call Me
Last seen: 7 years, 5 months
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: DNKYD]
#7466045 - 09/28/07 11:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
DNKYD said: Yes, it is pretty scary living in a state led by a bunch of hacks with their heads up their asses.
Isn't that how Soviet Russia collapsed? One day they just didn't have the money to continue and it set up off a chain reaction that within a matter of hours the government completely collapsed and all the Soviet States basically stopped responding to the Central Government?
That was a really rushed version of one of the biggest moments of the 20th century but am I wrong to be concerned in seeing parallels here?
-------------------- Hi
My god... it's full of stars...
|
makaveli8x8
Stranger


Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 21,636
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
|
actually after thinking about this, what better way to enact martial law than to cause the states to go bankrupt, leading to a mess, then just sending in the military. purhaps calling it a terrorist state
--------------------
  We were sent to hell for eternity Ø h® We play on earth to pass the time Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.
|
Senor_Doobie
Snake Pit Champion



Registered: 08/11/99
Posts: 22,678
Loc: Trump Train
|
|
Happened to New Jersey the summer before last. Governor did it because he couldn't get his budget through the state assembly. Six days later they passed his budget. Its stupid power tripping bullshit in that case.
-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
|
magikgrl
~Inevitable~



Registered: 02/04/06
Posts: 4,566
Loc: Michigan
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: DNKYD]
#7466190 - 09/29/07 01:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
DNKYD said: Yes, it is pretty scary living in a state led by a bunch of hacks with their heads up their asses.
werd.
This place is going to hell in a handbasket. Even though I'm not directly affected, since i too work, but not for the state, i can think of alot of people who will be affected. a circut judge put the stop to the casino's closing. i honestly can't imagine those shutting down, there's so many jobs that go along with it, and so many people i know that work for them, sad when you don't know if you'll have a job in the morning because some dipshit politicians can pull thier head out of thier asses long enough to make a fucking decision. granholm (gov) gave them the budget 8 months ago. this is fucking pathedic! From wxyz.com:
Quote:
Government shutdown details include, but are not limited to:
AGRICULTURE: All Department of Agriculture activities will stop during a government shutdown, except livestock vehicle inspections at the Mackinac Bridge, which are required to maintain the Upper Peninsula’s Tuberculosis-free designation for cattle. During the shutdown, food safety inspections, recall effectiveness checks, gas pump inspections, animal disease monitoring, and migrant labor camp inspections will stop; agriculture export and cattle movement permits will not be issued; and horse racing will shutdown. Exports from Michigan to foreign countries would essentially cease should state government shut down. Commodities affected include dry beans, logs and lumber, nursery stock, grain, fruits, and vegetables.
THE COURTS: The Michigan Supreme Court and the Court of Appeals will continue to operate with a limited staff to handle emergency matters.
CIVIL RIGHTS: All Department of Civil Rights activities will stop during a government shutdown. Residents wishing to file a discrimination complaint will be able to leave a message at 1-800-482-3604 with the details of their complaint. For purposes of meeting the 180-day legal requirement, the message will constitute an official notice of the intention to file a complaint. Residents calling Civil Right’s Crisis Response Hotline to report a hate crime or bias incident may also leave a message, although they are encouraged to contact local law enforcement for immediate assistance.
COMMUNITY HEALTH: A number of operations within the Department of Community Health will be maintained to ensure that the health of our citizens is protected. State mental health facilities will remain open with reduced staffing, though involuntary, non-court admissions will be suspended. Critical laboratory services will operate to ensure newborn screenings are completed in a timely manner, and threats of immediate harm can be addressed. Limited Medicaid support will be available to approve emergency medical prior-authorizations and review exception requests for medications and medical procedures. The DCH also will maintain the toll-free number to register nursing home complaints of a serious nature.
CORRECTIONS: Department of Corrections functions will continue as needed to protect the safety of Michigan citizens. The state’s prisons, prison camps, and parole/probation monitoring will continue to operate, though at a reduced staffing level. Administrative operations outside of the prisons will shut down.
EDUCATION: All Department of Education operations will shut down, except for the Michigan School for the Deaf. If Department of Education employees have not returned to work by mid-October, the state school aid payment due on October 22 will not be made.
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY: The Department of Environmental Quality will maintain only limited staff during the shutdown period to meet U.S. Department of Homeland Security air- monitoring requirements and process critical drinking water samples to address the most immediate public health concerns. All other department functions will shut down. This means no permits (air quality, surface water discharge, wetlands, dredging, etc.) will be processed and no environmental complaints will be received or investigated. The Pollution Emergency Alerting System will be operational, but the department will have extremely limited ability to respond to emergencies reported through that system.
HISTORY, ARTS & LIBRARIES: All Department of History, Arts and Libraries operations will shut down except security and emergency monitoring services at the Mackinac Island Airport and public areas. The Library of Michigan, the Michigan Historical Museum, and historic sites around Michigan will be closed. Mackinac Island paid admission sites will close and garbage and manure pick-up and road maintenance will cease.
HUMAN SERVICES: Critical Department of Human Services’ operations will be maintained to protect the safety of children, families, and vulnerable adults. Most local offices will remain open with a small percentage of field staff on the job to respond to child protective services and adult protective services emergencies; make emergency foster care placements; and process emergency payments for evictions, lack of utilities, lack of food, etc. Cash assistance, food assistance, child day care, adoption subsidies, and foster care payments will continue, but no new applications will be processed (except for emergencies as described above). Child support payments received from non-custodial parents will be sent to families; and the state’s juvenile justice facilities will operate and will be staffed to protect the safety of residents.
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY: A limited number of Department of Information Technology personnel will be needed to maintain state operating systems and to provide technical support for those services that will continue.
LABOR & ECONOMIC GROWTH: The majority of Department of Labor & Economic Growth operations will be shut down. Most of the unemployment insurance agencies will be closed, however, unemployment checks will continue to be processed and new applications can be made over the phone or via the Internet. In addition, the Michigan Career & Technical Institute in Plainwell and the Michigan Commission for the Blind Training Center in Kalamazoo will continue to provide education and training for disabled individuals.
LOTTERY & GAMING: Lottery sales will end at the close of business on September 30, 2007. Players will not be able to purchase or redeem winning tickets. Minimal staff will maintain drawings due to the advance sale of tickets. State gaming inspectors will be idled as well, forcing the state-licensed casinos in Detroit to close.
MANAGEMENT & BUDGET: A limited number of Department of Management and Budget personnel will maintain state-owned buildings.
MICHIGAN STATE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY: The Michigan State Housing Development Authority will be closed during shutdown and all operations will stop.
MILITARY & VETERANS AFFAIRS: The MVA State Finance and State Human Resource offices will be closed. The state’s two veterans’ homes in Grand Rapids and Marquette will continue operating with reduced staffing but will maintain the minimum staffing as required by law. The Youth Challenge Program will also remain operational but with minimum staff. Feeding and education will be provided by the Battle Creek Public Schools, an established partner of the Challenge Program. The state’s 44 National Guard armories, six National Guard training sites, and National Guard administrative offices are federally funded and will remain open.
NATURAL RESOURCES: All DNR operations will be shut down, except a minimal crew to maintain the state’s six fish hatcheries and a small contingent of forest firefighters needed to continue containment operations at the Sleeper Lakes fire in the Upper Peninsula and to respond to other fire emergencies. Shutdown will require that all state parks, recreation areas, DNR visitor centers and state forest campgrounds be closed, including day use areas. Citizens with camping reservations at a state park or recreation area during the duration of the shutdown will be eligible for a refund. The sale of hunting and fishing licenses may be delayed if technical problems with the state server prevent processing, and gated boat access sites will not be accessible. In addition, timber will not be marked for sale or sold. The archery deer season set to open on October 1 will proceed, however, deer check stations will not be operating.
SECRETARY OF STATE: Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land has indicated that branch offices will be closed during the shutdown. Online or mail transactions will not be processed, as well.
STATE POLICE: The Michigan State Police will continue to protect Michigan citizens during shutdown. Though all MSP posts will be closed to the public, a limited number of troopers will be maintained to provide critical law enforcement services across the state. Administrative and specialized operations will be curtailed, resulting in the cessation of crime lab services, commercial vehicle enforcement, drug and criminal investigations, detective services, disaster assistance, and casino gaming oversight.
TRANSPORTATION: All road construction, routine maintenance, and administrative operations will stop. The state’s rest areas will be closed. In addition, six of the state’s lift bridges, in compliance with U.S. Coast Guard regulations, will be locked in the up position, allowing only water traffic to pass. Those bridges are located in Manistee, Bay City, St Joseph, Port Huron and Detroit. The Mackinac Bridge, the International Bridge, and Blue Water Bridge will remain operational.
TREASURY: Department of Treasury operations, including student loan disbursements and financial aid payments, the Michigan Education Trust, and the Michigan Education Savings Plan programs would cease during a shutdown. Revenue sharing payments to local units of government will be delayed if the shutdown continues through mid-October. A limited number of staff would be maintained to process critical payments, including cash assistance, unemployment benefits, and debt service.
--------------------
"In the 60s people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal...go figure." Becoming human was not part of the plan... I wish I could be as high as my tolerance-danlennon Reality is a crutch for those that can't cope with drugs.
|
ReposadoXochipilli
Here, there, inbetween



Registered: 08/30/05
Posts: 7,501
Loc: Sand and sunshine
Last seen: 19 days, 2 hours
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: DNKYD]
#7466273 - 09/29/07 02:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
DNKYD said: Yes, it is pretty scary living in a state led by a bunch of hacks with their heads up their asses.
Not much they can do when like 1/10 jobs lost in the USA were from there, the whole car biz leaving is kinda rough 
So glad I don't live there, after HS I was outta dat crap hole, good place to grow up (northern MI) other then that it sucked.
--------------------
|
GonzoCool


Registered: 09/30/03
Posts: 726
Loc:
|
|
holy god, i cant believe i actually clicked the play button on that youtube video in your sig. that was the worst excuse for a musical performance that i have ever seen. the absolute worst thing i have ever heard in my entire life. HORRIBLE vocals and even worse instrumental. i'm so sorry for you. may god have mercy on your worthless soul. i think i will kill myself right now
--------------------
|
AJ4U
Cloud N9ne



Registered: 09/06/06
Posts: 5,609
Loc: Dirty Jersey
Last seen: 13 years, 4 months
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: Senor_Doobie]
#7466564 - 09/29/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Senor_Doobie said: Happened to New Jersey the summer before last. Governor did it because he couldn't get his budget through the state assembly. Six days later they passed his budget. Its stupid power tripping bullshit in that case.
Haha i remember that shit, i cruised and smoked made blunts that week.
--------------------
|
Irdamage
Autobot


Registered: 11/19/05
Posts: 1,491
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: AJ4U]
#7466648 - 09/29/07 08:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
...Maybe if your lucky Canada will buy you out. But only if you clean up some of them guns and dark folk.
|
Tangerines




Registered: 04/17/05
Posts: 17,918
Loc: woodwork
Last seen: 4 years, 23 days
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: Irdamage]
#7466682 - 09/29/07 08:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
another reason to be a buckeye.
|
TODAY
Battletoad


Registered: 09/25/03
Posts: 10,218
Loc: Metropolis City, USA
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
#7466879 - 09/29/07 10:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
CosmicFunGuy said: i'm sure it will be... thats why the time to revolt is NOW
Out of the streets, into the forums!!
--------------------
ca'rouse (k-rouz) intr.v. To engage in boisterous, drunken merrymaking.
|
ZippoZ
Knomadic



Registered: 06/17/03
Posts: 13,227
Loc: Pongyang, North Korea
|
Re: so the state is shutting down.... [Re: TODAY]
#7467155 - 09/29/07 12:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
wow, america is fucked, perhaps detroit will riot again..
I should go plan a massive rave in Michigan while there arent any cops to fuck with me.
what dates are these shutdowns going to commence?
-------------------- PEACE
zippoz "in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption" "People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."
|
|