|
EntheogenicPeace
Scholar



Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 3,926
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: SirTripAlot]
#7475805 - 10/01/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
---
Edited by EntheogenicPeace (01/01/18 08:10 PM)
|
zorbman
blarrr



Registered: 06/04/04
Posts: 5,952
|
|
Quote:
Adherents to the same ideology of economically-motivated expansionism & imperialism that 'America' was founded on have been in the White House every term since it was built... with one or two arguable exceptions. So, no, they're not dead. Judging by Dick Cheney's current position of political power (the leader of the 'free world'), and the ridiculous amounts of money being made annually by "defense" contractors, "Drug War" profiting corporate thieves & just about every other special interest group with government connections so thorough the two are not distinguishable in many cases, I'd say they're presently alive & well... assuming one defines 'well' as being the richest & most powerful men in the world.
Once again you are taking your logic to the level of absurdity by spanning such a wide swath of history. Such thinking opens a Pandora's box containing many questions beyond the reach of any court:
Where does it end?
How far back do we go to address historic grievances especially considering the wronged parties have been in their graves for centuries?
How would we sort out each living individual's claim to a past wrong based upon his ethnicity? And btw, how the hell does being born to a certain ethnic group entitle one to a certain birthright?!
Isn't that the very thing you claim to be opposing?
Racism in reverse.
Also, if these wonderful entheogens lead us to a world without borders and surface differences, why the constant obsession with race?
-------------------- “The crisis takes a much longer time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you would have thought.” -- Rudiger Dornbusch
Edited by zorbman (10/02/07 02:18 AM)
|
RandalFlagg
Stranger

Registered: 06/15/02
Posts: 15,608
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zorbman]
#7476726 - 10/02/07 09:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
zorbman said: Also, if these wonderful entheogens lead us to a world without borders and surface differences, why the constant obsession with race?
Because Leftists are obsessed with seperating the world into horrible and evil oppressors one one hand and the lovable and righteous oppressed on the other hand. The oppressors are to be hated and the oppressed are to be exalted. It is a lapse in logical thinking that is a perversion of liberal values.
|
bukkake


Registered: 05/28/05
Posts: 2,764
Loc: Classified
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: RandalFlagg]
#7476782 - 10/02/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Whereas the right believes the opposite. The oppressors are to be exalted and the oppressed are to be hated. See Pinochet, Chile.
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
|
Quote:
EntheogenicPeace said:
Quote:
Margaret Mead was a fraud.
Don't tell me you're such a prude to object to publication of about the promiscuity of young Samoan girls?
Are you unaware that "Coming of Age in Samoa" was fraudulent? She made the whole thing up.
--------------------
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zappaisgod]
#7476902 - 10/02/07 10:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
EP denies the sanctity of borders unless it is convenient for him to do so. See his continued bleatings about no right to invade Iraq. I might also point out that very few Guatemalans are indigenous either. A bullshit distraction.
--------------------
|
BrAiN
Art Fag

Registered: 03/01/01
Posts: 6,875
Loc: Chocolate City
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zappaisgod]
#7477124 - 10/02/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Technically he shouldn't have the right to any of that money. Not just the illegal immigrant part, but I'm talking tax evasion. Shit... anyone who's owed $ to the IRS knows that if you don't pay up FAST.. you'll get 100% interest in no time.... compounded over 20 years.. you'll owe 10x as much as you MADE in income.
But if we're really a nation that gives a shit about people, you gotta' be a little fair, I say give him back the 59 minus taxes and interest... so about 30k.
There are plenty of LEGAL immigrants that made the same as him that had to put in their share of taxes.
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: BrAiN]
#7477128 - 10/02/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
As I said earlier, I'm not sure he did or did not pay taxes. If he had pay stubs, his employer deducted money. Maybe he just didn't file returns. Then again, it's also hard to believe that he saved that much money making $5.50 an hour.
--------------------
|
EntheogenicPeace
Scholar



Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 3,926
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zappaisgod]
#7478126 - 10/02/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
---
Edited by EntheogenicPeace (01/01/18 08:12 PM)
|
TheCow
Stranger

Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 4,790
Last seen: 15 years, 6 months
|
|
Well my organization, the Anthropological American Association says different. Who are you to believe my friend.
|
EntheogenicPeace
Scholar



Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 3,926
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zappaisgod]
#7478188 - 10/02/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
---
Edited by EntheogenicPeace (01/01/18 08:12 PM)
|
EntheogenicPeace
Scholar



Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 3,926
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: TheCow]
#7478189 - 10/02/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
---
Edited by EntheogenicPeace (01/01/18 08:12 PM)
|
EntheogenicPeace
Scholar



Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 3,926
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zappaisgod]
#7478215 - 10/02/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
---
Edited by EntheogenicPeace (01/01/18 08:12 PM)
|
TheCow
Stranger

Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 4,790
Last seen: 15 years, 6 months
|
|
true. Not a monty python fan i guess
|
EntheogenicPeace
Scholar



Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 3,926
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zorbman]
#7478243 - 10/02/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
---
Edited by EntheogenicPeace (01/01/18 08:13 PM)
|
EntheogenicPeace
Scholar



Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 3,926
|
Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: TheCow]
#7478245 - 10/02/07 05:45 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
---
Edited by EntheogenicPeace (01/01/18 08:13 PM)
|
SirTripAlot
Semper Fidelis



Registered: 01/11/05
Posts: 7,459
Loc: Harmless (Mostly)
Last seen: 1 hour, 32 minutes
|
|
entheogenic peace stated:
The only birthright I believe one is entitled to is control of themselves on a personal level, & the freedom to form whatever society they so do. I would never support an person or group of people foreign to Europe coming in and telling them (i.e. forcing them) to do things differently. If there is to be change in a given society (Europe, in this case), towards whatever new direction, then it is up to the people living there to do it & talk among, debate among & fight among themselves if it comes down to it
It seems somewhat hypocritical to me........ Why do you not support America's right to detain illegal immigrants and take money that was made in fraud????? Are you not trying to "force" your view on that society?I am pretty sure the vast majority of people within the USA agree with this.
Do you agree with France and what they are doing with the Muslim population???
On my other question, I was asking you to point out any nation throughout history that does not enforce it laws, in regards to its physical borders, and how long that nation existed.
-------------------- “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
|
Quote:
EntheogenicPeace said:
Quote:
Are you unaware that "Coming of Age in Samoa" was fraudulent? She made the whole thing up.
Um, she went there & it was based on her observations of local culture & speaking with the native inhabitants, living among them for a time. When it comes to anthropology, I believe the American Anthropological Association has more credability than some smear website.
Margaret Mead was exposed as a fraud before there was an internet to have websites, smear or otherwise.
--------------------
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
|
Quote:
EntheogenicPeace said:
Quote:
I might also point out that very few Guatemalans are indigenous either.
Yes, that is presently the case, but it wasn't until the last quarter to half a century. Something(s) happened in that time period to quickly change that. I'll give you a hint: The series of events responsible for this, one man in particular, is linked to a U.S. military base in Fort Benning, Georgia.
Bullshit
Quote:
Moreover, it makes no difference to at all whether he is fully indigenous or mestizo... or white for that matter. He lived in poverty & worked hard so he could provide a better life for his family back home. That is to be highly commended of anyone. If everyone in the world shared that work ethic, selflessness, & commitment to the welfare of others in addition to their own, then there wouldn't be wars, greed or racism.
He stole services fraudulently and most likely cheated on his taxes.
--------------------
|
zappaisgod
horrid asshole


Registered: 02/11/04
Posts: 81,741
Loc: Fractallife's gym
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
|
|
Quote:
EntheogenicPeace said:
Quote:
...how the hell does being born to a certain ethnic group entitle one to a certain birthright?!
The only birthright I believe one is entitled to is control of themselves on a personal level, & the freedom to form whatever society they so do on a community level. I would never support an person or group of people foreign to Europe coming in and telling them (i.e. forcing them) to do things differently. If there is to be change in a given society (Europe, in this case), towards whatever new direction, then it is up to the people living there to do it & talk among, debate among & fight among themselves if it comes down to it. Self-determination would be the simplest way to describe it. Reverse racism? That's ridiculous.
Do you oppose racism?
If an armed black or Hispanic male (or group of males) went into a white community, dragged hundreds of people from their homes beating them along the way, lined them up along a curb or sidewalk or wherever, & summarily executed them... men, women, children, the elderly, the handicapped, everyone... what should be done to them?
I would say the death penalty. If you don't believe in that, then I think the absolute bare minimum any people would say life in prison, hard labor, with no 0% chance of ever leaving.
If the situation is the other way around, shouldn't the punishments be the same... in a non-racist society?
Is this English?
--------------------
|
|