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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #7468083 - 09/29/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7468129 - 09/29/07 07:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

So "entheogenic spirituality" must be the answer to the illegal immigrant problem. No wonder our politicians haven't figured it out yet! They haven't been downing mescaline and dropping acid for a paradigm shift in perspective that will ultimately keep these drains-on-society out of our country.

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: Diploid]
    #7468243 - 09/29/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder if the almanac will ever list the major export of Mexico as "poverty".


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: DNKYD]
    #7468260 - 09/29/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7468286 - 09/29/07 08:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7468402 - 09/29/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I believe your historical references don't relate to this. Jim Crow laws were a product of generations of thought based on the notion of the perceived inferiority of the African race. Any person within the USA who travels outside of its borders with a duffel bag filled with 59 grand, would have faced the same consequences.


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #7468602 - 09/29/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Take his money and send his ass, back home.

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7468678 - 09/29/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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To indigenous people the "illegal immigrant invasion" began in 1492.




Actually the real problem goes back much further than that.

The real injustice happened when homo sapiens overtook homo erectus approximately 250,000 years ago.

Unfortunately the only way to correct this problem is for homo sapiens to immediately commit suicide en masse to allow room for other species to flourish.

Of course we could go back even further than that and provide justice for the primordial slime murder of the proto-plankton during the pre-Cambrian era. This outrage set back plankton evolution for 12.3 million years and caused massive suffering to the plankton which had settled peacefully in the Great Crustocrastyplasty Basin prior to the Slimo-Plankton war which lasted for some 1.1 million years.


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #7470532 - 09/30/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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at the same time, considering all the circumstances, I think any
american would be generally displeased with the notion of confiscating
all of this man's money.




As he is here illegally, they should keep it all/




I disagree, they should take what he owes for taxes and fines, give
him the balance back and then fine the fuck out of the company that
employed him during that time.


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: afoaf]
    #7470799 - 09/30/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zorbman]
    #7470842 - 09/30/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #7470864 - 09/30/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7470955 - 09/30/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Margaret Mead was a fraud. The fact that you don't believe in borders is all sweetness and light but utterly irrelevant to the real world. No borders and no laws for the Peacable one. Because property is theft, don't ya know?


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7470977 - 09/30/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Did the lawyers tell him that he couldn't see any of the money again if he doesn't take that deal??

I bet hes so confused, I know I would be if I went there without learning the nationally spoken language, laws or any of the other conduct.


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: Diploid]
    #7471041 - 09/30/07 04:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

kinda throws the "you cannot survive on minimum wage" thing out the window.

this guy came here, busted his ass, supported himself, and stayed out of trouble. i can't say i feel like his punishment for being on the country illegally should be very harsh.

there is definitely no moral justification for holding onto all of his money. that's his, he earned it, and he should get it back, minus a small fine.

as far as taxes, i'm in favor of no taxes at all for the very lowest earners. this guy certainly qualifies. he should be given a small fine for living here illegally and let on his way with the rest of the money he earned.


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7474514 - 10/01/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7474609 - 10/01/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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And comparing the unconscious history billions of years of evolution to willful & conscientious acts of mass murder, displacement, oppression & exploitation is hardly an accurate comparison.




How far back do you want to go in addressing grievances? It becomes a bit ridiculous after a while and also ensures we will live in a world of never-ending conflict as someone's ancestors have always been screwed over by someone else's ancestors if you trace your lineage back far enough.

The people who drove the red man from the land are long dead.

Get over it.


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7474887 - 10/01/07 06:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Although there are many debates on what historians believe, the vast majority believe that a nation is defined by three fundamental principles :

1. The nations physical borders

2. The language

3. Culture


Please tell me why you believe that anyone should be free to enter any nation weather it be from Middle America to North America, or vice versa, without any scrutiny, or respect for the laws that encompass that realm. Please cite any historical evidence of successful nations that permitted the behaviour/ actions you espouse as OK.


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: zorbman]
    #7475783 - 10/01/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Loses $59,000 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7475787 - 10/01/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Robert Gershman, one of Zapeta's attorneys, said federal prosecutors later offered his client a deal: He could take $10,000 of the original cash seized, plus $9,000 in donations as long as he didn't talk publicly and left the country immediately.




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