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End of the world
    #7464874 - 09/28/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Some guys and I on the Jeep Forum are arguing what will cause the End of the world.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467285

I argue that global warming will cause the ocean levels to rise, in turn causing mass re-location and food shortages. Then man will turn on man. Possibly a war., As men start killing each other, the Apocalypse will happen and all hell on earth will be released. Don't get me wrong. I believe that Mans time on earth will end, but evolution will start over again. Its mainly the destroying of the Ozone that i argue about. Goes back to old threads in the shroomery and jeep forum about how man will be its own downfall. What do you guys think?


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Re: End of the world [Re: Ogla]
    #7464881 - 09/28/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think the end of the world will be caused by Jeep enthusiasts driving around too much in their damn Jeeps.


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Re: End of the world [Re: Ogla]
    #7464887 - 09/28/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think the ultimate end of the world will be when the sun explodes and dies, the earth will be burnt then frozen to death.

if youre talking about the end of mankind, Im not entirely sure... I do know that humans will fuck something up and end our little stint in the universe, though.  what it will actually be, its tough to say till we do it.  I dont even think well know when we 1st do it... it might take years.  :shrug:


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Re: End of the world [Re: Ogla]
    #7464919 - 09/28/07 04:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The end of the human race, unlikely. The end of civillization, definitely possible if we don't get to work and start using renewable energy, creating protected zones in the ocean, lowering the birth rate, raising the literacy rate, using rain water, lower green house gas emissions, etc...


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Re: End of the world [Re: robbyberto]
    #7464927 - 09/28/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

robbyberto said:
The end of the human race, unlikely. The end of civillization, definitely possible if we don't get to work and start using renewable energy, creating protected zones in the ocean, lowering the birth rate, raising the literacy rate, using rain water, lower green house gas emissions, etc...




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Re: End of the world [Re: robbyberto]
    #7464944 - 09/28/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

These things might help sustain a population of billions, but even if we don't do any of them civilization won't end. People will survive even if the caps are gone and the sea level rises hundreds of feet, and they'll survive in communities. People won't start running off into the woods naked and screaming.

We're going to have to try a lot harder if we want to wipe out civilization!


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Re: End of the world [Re: Ogla]
    #7464987 - 09/28/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)





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Re: End of the world [Re: TODAY]
    #7465071 - 09/28/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The is going to be an interesting century. It will be the most important century in history. The make it or break it century if you will. We have developed the technology to create weapons of mass destruction but we are still arguing over archaic religions and imaginary lines on the map. We will survive if we have evolved well enough. If we deserve to survive. I believe foresight is our biggest short coming. We just need to get to the point where we can solve problems without having to be smacked in the face ten times before we get the message. Technology is going to be extremely powerful, intriguing, and frightening. We will create a technology(artificial intelligence) that will rapidly accelerate our understanding of the universe and develop new technology. This is known as singularity.
If only we can survive ourselves in this century. I don't know why I posted this besides the fact that I find it intensely interesting and it is relevant if we do survive. If you are interested in anything I have said I recommend a book entitled The Meaning of the 21st Century. It discusses the problems that we must overcome and solutions to overcome said problems. It also talks about many exciting future technologies.


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Re: End of the world [Re: Ogla]
    #7465296 - 09/28/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Who fuckin knows?

More importantly, why argue about it?


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Re: End of the world [Re: robbyberto]
    #7465321 - 09/28/07 07:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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This is known as singularity.


I recommend a book entitled The Meaning of the 21st Century. It discusses the problems that we must overcome and solutions to overcome said problems. It also talks about many exciting future technologies.




Yup, i agree. I am a firm believer in the singularity. I don't like the wikipedia article, but it is a good start.

Another good book everyone in the world should read is The singularity is near.. This book is an amazing look from a brilliant man about what this century has in store for us.

Google has a few pages there, i suggest you read any it has, then the book or get it from your local library.


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Re: End of the world [Re: Nephlyte]
    #7465334 - 09/28/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Oh ya, and if you are still into the world ending, check out this website:

Exit Mundi

Some of the site goes into goofy ends, but there are plenty of world ending scenarios there.


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Re: End of the world [Re: Nephlyte]
    #7465335 - 09/28/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

One of my professors suggested a book also. It may be that book but I'll send him an email.


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Re: End of the world [Re: robbyberto]
    #7465391 - 09/28/07 07:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

robbyberto said:
The end of the human race, unlikely. The end of civillization, definitely possible if we don't get to work and start using renewable energy, creating protected zones in the ocean, lowering the birth rate, raising the literacy rate, using rain water, lower green house gas emissions, etc...





I agree. And civilization is more fragile than most people seem to think.
They all have a certain lifespan. Technology has tremendously speeded up the process.

There is no technofix unless and until we address our population problem. Resources are becoming scarce. The day is fast approaching when there will not be enough to go around at any price. Just look at the explosion in commodity prices the last few years if you don't believe me. Look at oil prices. Wars have been fought over less.

All signs point to a rapidly approaching crunch time.

We will know if we are smarter than yeast within our lifetimes.
(Will we consume most of our resources until most of us die or not)?

Buckle up.. It's gonna be a hell of a ride!


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Edited by zorbman (09/28/07 07:35 PM)


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Re: End of the world [Re: zorbman]
    #7465438 - 09/28/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, its going to be pretty bad but I suspect the Western world will at least be able to support its citizens pretty well. We have the money to afford grain. We have the money to research and implement technology to help us grow crops faster and with great yields. Most of the world doesn't. There will be wars over water. There will be complete anarchy in some places. Billions will die unnecessarily because we didn't have enough foresight. But many amazing new technological breakthroughs will also occur in this century. It will be one hell of a ride.


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Re: End of the world [Re: robbyberto]
    #7465462 - 09/28/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

We have the money now. But we are in debt up to our eyeballs and when the dollar finally crashes we will surely be in an economic depression. And very likely around that time we will not have sufficient energy to grow ourselves out of it.

During the previous Great Depression there was abundant energy - it will be different this time. I am ultimately hopeful but probably half of us or more won't make it to the finish line.


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Re: End of the world [Re: zorbman]
    #7465479 - 09/28/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well we do have greater grain production capabilities and surely even with an economic collapse we will still be better off than most of the world because of our existing infrastructure. The sad thing about our situation is the fact that we have the wealth to support every single person comfortably. I don't want to go socialistic but there needs to be some kind of redistribution of wealth and a minimal standard of living for every person on the planet that isn't completely abysmal.


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Re: End of the world [Re: Nephlyte]
    #7467075 - 09/29/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That is one of the books my professor recommended. The others were The Hydrogen Economy, Our Molecular Future, and The Next Fifty Years.


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