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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: yageman]
    #7465678 - 09/28/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:

Yageman, that post is even greater when read in William Shatner's voice!


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: yageman]
    #7465685 - 09/28/07 09:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: Robo]
    #7465757 - 09/28/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think a distinction needs to be made between Dry Grams and Wet Grams. 10g wet is very different from 10g dry. All that water's got to weigh something, right?


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: BrandNoob]
    #7465770 - 09/28/07 09:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

True. I'm just assuming people are mainly referring to dry, though.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: BrandNoob]
    #7465780 - 09/28/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I was convinced when I took an eighth that it was too much. It was like a poison more then a hallucinogen, made me feel sick and my face looked TERRIBLE. Threw me in a depression for a couple hours that thank god I got out of. I still at times want to experience total ego loss, but I'd probably throw up if I took enough to do that. 2.5 grams for me, that worked real well, I wasn't distracted by visuals and confusion (well for the first hour or so I was confused) and was able to think about shit.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: BirdsIView]
    #7465799 - 09/28/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm just curious why people take 10g trips when they can take an MAOI with a much lower dose and achieve the same result. Am I missing something major here or is it just too much trouble/different kind of trip/some other reason?

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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: paradox_]
    #7465964 - 09/28/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Trips that involve maois are very different.

The original "ayahuasca" is maois by themselves.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: yageman]
    #7466537 - 09/29/07 07:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

um...yeah when i eat 5grams of dried cubes i dont get any visuals, it also takes much longer for it to effect me compared to my friends (eating on an empty stomech). But even with weed, when i smoke it i dont get high right away, i dont even feel it right away. I feel it after like 2-3 mins and then its starts peaking, idk maby im not normal and my body functions differently then most people.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: paradox_]
    #7466667 - 09/29/07 08:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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paradox_ said:
I'm just curious why people take 10g trips when they can take an MAOI with a much lower dose and achieve the same result. Am I missing something major here or is it just too much trouble/different kind of trip/some other reason?

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Maybe because they don't want to risk screwing up on their complicated maoi diet. I mean look at what you have to avoid:

* Sherry
* Vermouth
* Red wines, including Chianti
* Beer to no more than 12 to 24 ounces a day
* White wine to no more than 4 to 8 ounces a day
* Caviar
* Pickled and dried herring
* Liver
* Smoked and cured sausages
* Luncheon meats
* Fava beans
* Italian green beans
* Sauerkraut
* Snow peas
* Miso soups
* Soups packaged with yeast products
* Cheeses, both aged and processed
* Concentrated yeast extract
* Brewer's yeast
* Yeast supplements
* Yeast paste (marmite)
* Miso
* Large amounts of soy sauce

That's a lot of preparation work for a trip. Or you could just eat a large dose and be done with it.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: BrandNoob]
    #7466694 - 09/29/07 09:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Also, a lot of people on here have an abundance of mushrooms.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: PeterGriffin467]
    #7466779 - 09/29/07 09:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've never had a "disconnected" extremely "shamanic" experience off even 7 grams.

I get really good visuals off of 2.5-3.5g but I prefer 5 grams to trip out with my intensity preference of visuals, but totally in control, 7 to go a little harder.

I've eattin a little MAOI w/ 5 + 7g of shrooms before, just really hard visuals, but no "freaking out" "don't know where I am" ego-loss or anything. This was before i searched out a shamanic experience and Im sure, in the dark with my eyes closed these trips would be been a lot deeper.

Im just saying... I personally would need 10g+ to have a GOOD shamanic experience with mushrooms. 5g in the dark still doesnt do it for me... just barely gets me goin.

Some people would freak out and be having uncontrollably disconnected out of body experiences on 4g, I know ppl who their first dose was 4g and they want more...

Some people just have harder heads... regardless of tolerance buildup. I wouldn't discount EVERY person saying they need a heroic dose to explore all the levels mushrooms have to offer.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: SDP]
    #7466828 - 09/29/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well like I said in a recent post, please be careful guys (and gals) having a crash on a decent dose (eg 5 grams) can be really ugly and unexpected. When it's good it really good, when it's bad, it is very bad.

The more I'v used mushrooms the more senstive I seem to become to them, so it isn't just newbs that should be cautious.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: cloudtripper]
    #7467117 - 09/29/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yup. The higher the dose the worse it can be when you trip up while tripping out.

Large doses of long lasting substances are not for me any more. I'll stick to the fun side of those for the foreseeable future.

When I really want to drop off the deep end large doses of salvia or smoked dmt do me fine and last plenty long enough for me. Especially when time decides to say adios. :smile:


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: yageman]
    #7467152 - 09/29/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i think its plenty but i have done 7 grams before but i would not do it again but it all depends on how good it is to


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7467172 - 09/29/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

frequent dosers will dose higher due to tolerance.
wet shroom dosers naturally intake more grammage.

to know yourself and your psychedelic
you need to take a peek first with lower amounts and work up with the known material over a period of time.

if you don't have a lot of material (shrooms/ acid/ whatever) to work with you have to go with what your friends /or supplier say, assuming they are familiar with the material.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #10317416 - 05/10/09 02:31 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Ive never taken more than an eighth and they always have me right boomed.  Im gunna try 5 grams soon.  2 gramsll have my visuals goin.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: yageman]
    #10317447 - 05/10/09 02:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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What in the fucking hell is going on?

  There are people who can take 5 grams and have no real visual effects?

  People who take 10 grams normally?

  Some people take 30 grams dried and end up in the hospital?


  That is some really sad shit, I must say.

  I know for a fact that some of these people are lying their asses off.
  Or they are just fuggin ridiculously simple people.

  Just imagine someone coming to this site and reading about how 10 grams of cubes is a "strong trip".
  Then they think,  Well im not scared of that, I want that.

  5 grams will give you massive visuals unless you are one step short of braindead.

  I have taken 12 grams before, and I wont take that much ever again.
  What the fuck though?.......... 30 grams of shrooms?

I just think some people are VERY slow learners.

For those who cant see visuals after eating 5 grams, you or your shrooms are broken.

Lizard brain.
Something is not right.
Seriously.




Thank you, I 100 percent agree with you.  30 grams of shrooms come on. That is just straight up ridiculous.  I agree with yage, either you guys are getting shitty shrooms or your brains are wired primitively. I do not know anyone who would take 10 grams of shrooms regularly, Terrence Mckenna says 5-7 grams is a heroic dose, yet we have people on here who do 10 grams plus all the time? BS if you ask me.  If you have no tolerance, 5 grams of shrooms is majorly intense, 10 grams plus is literally reality melting, not just a kinda strong dose (obviously I am talking about dried weight here)


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: LedHead]
    #10317480 - 05/10/09 02:55 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Dude taking 10 grams + is really fun. Like dudes, eat an eighth. AND THEN when your peaking, eat MORE. SO FUN :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: Enhance_Shammy]
    #10317487 - 05/10/09 02:58 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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yageman said:
What in the fucking hell is going on?

  There are people who can take 5 grams and have no real visual effects?

  People who take 10 grams normally?

  Some people take 30 grams dried and end up in the hospital?


  That is some really sad shit, I must say.

  I know for a fact that some of these people are lying their asses off.
  Or they are just fuggin ridiculously simple people.

  Just imagine someone coming to this site and reading about how 10 grams of cubes is a "strong trip".
  Then they think,  Well im not scared of that, I want that.

  5 grams will give you massive visuals unless you are one step short of braindead.

  I have taken 12 grams before, and I wont take that much ever again.
  What the fuck though?.......... 30 grams of shrooms?

I just think some people are VERY slow learners.

For those who cant see visuals after eating 5 grams, you or your shrooms are broken.

Lizard brain.
Something is not right.
Seriously.




That is not the first time I have heard you say that people who take high doses are either mentally slow or are lying.

And to be honest, I think you are the one with a slow mind if you truly believe that..

I have had very intense trips off of 3 grams.
And I have had my mind fucking blown on 12-15 grams.

The ability to handle ones self on a high dose of shrooms does not mean that one is stupid.


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um...yeah when i eat 5grams of dried cubes i dont get any visuals, it also takes much longer for it to effect me compared to my friends (eating on an empty stomech). But even with weed, when i smoke it i dont get high right away, i dont even feel it right away. I feel it after like 2-3 mins and then its starts peaking, idk maby im not normal and my body functions differently then most people.




I'm the same way, I have a crazy tolerance for virtually all drugs, especially uppers. I can do twice the drugs that my friends do and still not be any higher than they are.

Every ones body is different, and will react differently to drugs.

My first shroom trip was on at least 100-150grams of fresh field shrooms. I was 34/35 at the time, I knew my body well and knew that I had a high tolerance for drugs so I was gonna eat a lot. I was told that they would make you puke. So I planned on eating them until I threw up. I was tripping pretty hard before I stopped eating them. Everyone was shocked that I ate so many. I realized that puking wasn't gonna happen, so I just sat back and enjoyed the trip. A trip that lasted over 10 hours from start to base line. I have not taken that much since. But I will remember that as the most life changing experience I have ever had.


For yageman and others to say that someone is mentally challenged, because they can tolerate a higher dose of drugs than he can, is very immature on their part.


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Re: Doses that sound to big to be true [Re: LedHead]
    #10317492 - 05/10/09 03:00 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I'd have to agree with yage as well. Maybe some of these high dosers are on an SSRI? Also depends what species of mushroom they are eating. 10 grams of panaeolus subbalteatus will definitely differ from a 10 gram trip on psilocybe cubensis or cyans.


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