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Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis
    #7462013 - 09/27/07 08:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ok let start this off by saying I'm peaking on acid when this all took place, and it's 2 in the afternoon. Now that's out of the way.....

I'm moving into my new house ( ya I ate 2 gels before hand, thinking it would be an interesting experience.....turned out to be somewhat of a bad idea...). Well me and my room mate are cleaning out a bed room to move in some of the furniture, when a friend calls and says he's coming to help.

When he gets there, we were taking a hash break...smoking off butter knives. He takes a mega huge hit of hash, probably about .2 grams worth.


Now this guy ALWAYS freak out on weed. One time he thought he accidently smoked rat poison because his joint was by a mouse trap when he found it. That's not even close to the most outrageous things he's manifested while stoned....I mean the guy is just weird on weed.

He eats acid and mushrooms all the time ( 1 or two times a month ) driniks occasionally, takes no drugs prescribed, and he was on NO OTHER DRUGS at the time of this hit of hash.

I know the hash was good, I made it.

So he hits the hash, and he's baked, sitting on the couch, looking rather out of it. He proceeds to go outside and into my new garage. I go into the garage to move some things there, and he's pacing aorund in circles, incoherently blabbering about being sick and being about to die.

I tell him it's fine it's just weed man, I igot shit to do just calm down.

I go inside and start vacuuming a room, when my roommate runs in and grabs me and pulls me in the living room.

The guy had collapsed on the floor. He was staring off into the distance. He started reaching for nothing.

I and my roommate came in and told him to get up and quit being stupid tell him it's just weed, and to knock it off.

Then the guy starts hugging the corner of my couch dry heaving, we forced him outside and he dry heaves out there, then comes back in and hugs the couch more.

This is when it becomes odd......


The guy starts shrieking....unhuman....abnormal...deathly. He gets up shrieking NO NO NO NO NO NO and every vien in the guys face is popping out and he's beat red.

He picks my couch up and throws it acrioss the room ( literally ). Rips my curtains off the wall and breaks shit everywhere.

Me and my roommate are screaming at him telling him we are going to stomp his face in ( we thought he was faking it ). Then the guy collapses on his back and starts moving his hands and legs in perfect circls and his head is looking around in circles and his mouth is moving up and down but nothing is coming out.

He lied on his back and did that for 5 minutes. Me and my roommate screaming at him, telliing him the cops were going to come since the guy was breaking shit and screaming.


The guy then gets up and starts running around the room, and finally saying coherent words. I grab him and try to force him to the gorund so he doesnt hurt anything, but he has like superhuman strength.

He grabbed my hand and started babbling in my face incoherently and asking if we were twio people. I told him we were. And once I did that he started somewhat coming back to reality and I could tlak to him.

This was like the most intense salvia trip out I've ever read about ( where people liose their minds for a few minutes and there bodieis run around the room ) only it was off hash.

Theres way more detail to the insanity of it all ( I was on acid ). It was the most intense thing I've seen anyone do off drugs and it was off pot.

What the hell could cause this. Has anyone heard of such a thing?


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: vandago]
    #7462078 - 09/27/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like a grand mal seizure, either that or your friend is just a pussy and can't handle his hash, heh.


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: vandago]
    #7462154 - 09/27/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've seen kidz do that after being puddled with LSD but never off of hash. Dude has some serious issues. No more hash for him, he's cut!


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: vandago]
    #7462173 - 09/27/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds about right. Havn't you ever seen the movie REEFER MADNESS?

Seriously though, sounds like a rough day. I've had a couple of 'friends' like that. Going that far out was unusual for them but you could count on it to happen sooner or later. Sadly, over and over with time. One I was close enough to that I was always up to date on whatever his current diagnosis was and that's just it. No one, doctors included, ever really could label it or treat it. He would do a month or so in the mental hospital from time to time and come out good for a while though not really himself. He never could stay on his meds and sooner or later would repeat the cycle.

He always weirded out worse than anyone I know on weed. He generally hid crack use as much as he could but sometimes he would totally freak out after smoking weed with us. Sure enough we would find out he had also gotten his hands on some crack earlier. He could play that off ok until he smoked weed.

I'm not saying your friend is doing crack or anything. Just that mental illness can be sometimes be something that is hard to nail and not always cured. Our friendship ended when he shot at me with 00 buck in my house while believe it or not, helping me move.

He wasn't mad at me in anyway and didn't even know what he had done until it was all over. I really don't know what to tell you except be careful with that dude.


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: vandago]
    #7462185 - 09/27/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like a siezure.

friend of mine wasn't into any hard stuff either, one day he comes in and his eyeballs are vibrating and he keeps telling the same story, going through all the gestures about how he got his drivers license. over and over, forgetting everything he just experienced 5 minutes prior.

we thought he was strung out on meth, we have a daughter and were rather concerned, he had no answers and denied his odd behaviour, then proceeded to tell the same story again.

we started to take him to the hospital but he jumped out of the car and ran.

after a few hours we tracked him down and told him he would submit to a checkup or not have a place to live.

an EEG confirmed seizure activity, blood test ruled out stimulants, but it was found that he was an alcoholic and the situation was clearly related to alcohol abuse.

not all seizures are the convulsing kind.


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7462305 - 09/27/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It's situations exactly like that which are the reason why drugs are contraindicated for people with predispositions to mental illness.

I'm sure if you look you'll probably find cases of psychotic or schizophrenic diagnosis somewhere in his. Or at least borderline cases, you might even see symptoms in him when he is sober.

I know a person who looses it every time she smokes weed and she definitely has issues normally.

It's a pretty dead giveaway when you say this happens every time he smokes...and I'm sure the acid/shrooms don't help as they have been known to bring out preexisting disorders. I'd say the more he does psychedelics the more he changes in real life and the more he'll freak out when on weed.

I think people with dispositions can sometimes get away with doing drugs but it's really not a good idea and I think this is a great example of what can happen.

But sucks you had to experience that on acid...can't of helped the experience :S

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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: vandago]
    #7462648 - 09/28/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Few years back everytime I did knife hits I had mush flashbacks. Maybe somehow, someway there is a correlation between knife hits and flashbacks.


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: islandtripper]
    #7463062 - 09/28/07 04:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Acid doesn't lend itself to stupid decisions. Next time really, really, REALLY consider set and setting.


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7463098 - 09/28/07 04:51 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I remember back in high school, two people i used to associate with wigging out on pot. Quite similar to your friend, except for the throwing stuff around. One was the "im going to die, im going to die" type. The other did this weird convulsing thing. But both were weird personality types, like the one who convulsed we even suspected he could be pretending just to get attention. He was one of those people who just dont get it. Last i heard about him he got caught with a kilo of ice in his house (kilo equals aprox 2.5 pounds i think) and was facing serious jail time. Cryed in court and got the sympathy vote from the judge and i think basically got off. I can understand why though, that guy wouldnt do well in prison. I think the best way you can help your friend is not to give him any weed or smoke with him if gets it himself. If he bugs you, all you have to say is "remember last time?"... how can he argue with that?


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: vandago]
    #7463206 - 09/28/07 06:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I don't get when some people say "its just weed". it affects people differently from one to the next and its is a very powerful experience to the point where you can't talk but just observe.


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: Limerick]
    #7463221 - 09/28/07 06:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I have to agree with you Limerick. Weed is one of the most powerful drugs i have tried. It hits you instantly and turns you completely inward on yourself.


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: DimensionX]
    #7463491 - 09/28/07 09:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

He might actually be schizo. The incoherent babblin you mentioned happens sometimes to those experiencin an episode, in which they usually have trouble communicatin or expressin themselves to others. But I dunno, it could be somethin else.

And no, I truly doubt he had any seizures whatsoever. Probably just some tripped out stuff he was doin (movin hands in circles while openin/closin mouth doesn't seem like muscles twitchin and jerkin to me). Weed/hash prevents seizures anyway.


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: vandago]
    #7463533 - 09/28/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry you had to go through that man. Some heavy shit when you're tripping.

Never heard of anything like that off just pot.  Guy must have bad issues. 

On the upside, you must have yourself some serious fucking hash there, enjoy :tongue:


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Re: Need input on this. Marijuana induced seizure/schizophrenia/psychosis [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7464461 - 09/28/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Acid doesn't lend itself to stupid decisions. Next time really, really, REALLY consider set and setting.




And what stupid decision did I make? Sitting in my house smoking hash with my friend? He's the one with the issues not me, and I asked for advice on what happened to him, not advice on how to trip.

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I don't get when some people say "its just weed". it affects people differently from one to the next and its is a very powerful experience to the point where you can't talk but just observe.




I have never once in my life seen or heard of anybody doing anything like this on any drug ( except really intense hallucinogen or dissociative trips ) . I know 10's of hundreds of people who smoke weed the second they get out of bed and all through their day. I'm not saying weed isn't powerful, but it definately isn't the drug to make you scream pure madness and run around breaking shit and falling on your back like a hurt turtle......

Not talking in this situaution would have been a blessing.


Now I really don't think it was a seizure. When he was flailing his arms and legs in circles it looked like he was possessed by a demon. He didn't lose muscle control, but had something else take it over. I've seen people do the exact same things with their arms and legs when they huff whip its on acid, but this was far more intense.

I told the guy to see a doctor, and abstain from drugs. When I say he freaks out on pot a lot, it's more of him manifesting weird situations that couldn't possibly happen. This was more of "he" left his body and something else took over.

I asked him several times if he took any other drugs and he told me no.


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