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EtInArcadiaEgo
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Calling All Gurus
#7461284 - 09/27/07 05:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi all. A FOAF of mine if attempting his first grow of fungi. drilled 5 holes in the 1/2 pint lids, 4 on the sides, 1 in the center. 5 cakes inoc'd with .2 cc's in each of the 4 side holes, and .5 cc's in the center hole. KSSS = strain, T.H.E. = Vendor. 19 days to colonize @ 86 degrees, he gave them all 2 add'l days to be sure (hoping the center inoculation helps center colonization). All cakes were birthed Sunday 9/23 and then dunked 24 hours (in fridge), then rolled in dry verm and cased in verm (top and bottom). I've attached 3 of his pics, he's worries his terrarium is too humid. He's worried about everything. Note the massive amount of perlite. They get fanned 5-6 times a day right now AND misted 2 times a day (mostly on the Casing). Some fuzzy growth on bottoms of cakes,near/on the verm (prolly mycelium based on what I've read here). Aside from that, not much happening yet. He's read mucho conflicting advice on how often to fan WITHOUT dropping RH too low. He lives in a pretty remote area, so getting a hygrometer is kinda outta the question for right now.
His questions: Does the RH look ok based on condensation?? How often should he be fanning? 2-3 times? 5-6? Finally, does he need to mist? Is this unnecessary with the Perlite method? If not, how often?
Please take a look, if you see anything that looks like it's gotta change, please speak up. Thanks for your help, next try for him will be casings!
Terrarium:
Cake:
All Cakes:
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thedoc8
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Looks good, keep up the fanning. You will have a good crop. Mine took about 11 days before I seen pins. I only faned once a day. It's about fool proof.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Calling All Gurus [Re: thedoc8]
#7461444 - 09/27/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's physically impossible to have too much humidity. I'd suggest waiting a week after full colonization prior to birthing. You'll get pins sooner if you do.
Condensation indicates a temperature differential between inside and outside the tub. It has nothing to do with humidity. RR
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EtInArcadiaEgo
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Hey All. Thanks for the fast replys. RR i love your work, and your vids. Inspiring. However you're a bit off on what exactly causes condensation. Condensation IS in fact an indicator of a very high Relative Humidity. The glass/plastic or whatever only provides a visible cold surface on which said excess himidity can condense. If i had a very low RH in my home, regardless of temp differences I would have no inside condensation. I should know, i live way up north Anyways, though you offered help for NEXT time, you didn't mention how often i should fan?? I guess my question boils down to: Is it better to have a high 100% RH, or more FAE? Its a trade either way. Let me know if you can!
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orchidfanatic
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actually you can have condensation in very low RH it would just need colder surfaces temps to bring it about ..
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cbiegel
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I couldn't see any holes in your fruiting chamber. Perhaps it's just the picture that's hiding them but with that much condensation I'd say you need to put in more holes to drastically increase your FAE.
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EtInArcadiaEgo
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Re: Calling All Gurus [Re: cbiegel]
#7462405 - 09/27/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are indeed correct, no holes. The terrarium is 1/4" tempered glass, so i doubt any holes will be drilled in the next 7-30 days. He is fanning 5-6 times per day. He just wanted to know if that's enough, or too much, whichever. I've read and re-read the FAQ on perlite humidification, et cetera, any insight?
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jeetered
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...your terrarium will build rH back up after fanning before it becomes a problem. If you're afraid you're losing so much rH%, why not just mist after you fan?
you should be fine with what you are doing. why make changes?
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Seventy
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Re: Calling All Gurus [Re: jeetered]
#7462484 - 09/27/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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5-6 is a little heavy imo.
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derx
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Re: Calling All Gurus [Re: Seventy]
#7462518 - 09/27/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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5 to 6 is great!
4x is bare minimum
conditions Iook great
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