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OfflineBdyBlder420
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Should I go for it?
    #7461194 - 09/27/07 05:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm debating whether or not to try shrooms. I have a strong desire to trip, but several factors are holding me back.

I currently take 4 antidepressants for OCD/depression. They are paxil, risperdal, anafranil, and lithium. From the research I have done, it is safe to combine these meds with shrooms, although I may have to take a higher dosage to compensate for paxil and lithium's ability to decrease the effects of shrooms. I am by no means mentally unstable, and i have never suffered from psychosis. I lead a normal life with very little interference from OCD or depression. Also, I have read of the theraputic benefits of shrooms on mental illness, and this greatly intrigues me. Maybe a trip would be a good thing for me, allowing me to see my reality in a new light?

Anyway, I was just wondering what your thoughts are about someone who has a mental illness with a sound mind taking shrooms. I was thinking about using a .5 gram dose of cubensis to start off with. Does this sound alright, or maybe i should go lower just to be safe. What do you guys recommend?

Thanks in advance for your help.


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: BdyBlder420]
    #7461296 - 09/27/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

iF YOU have TO ask THEN ,no. !


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: Alion]
    #7461310 - 09/27/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know about any interactions with those meds, im not sure to be honest. In all honesty you probably will not even feel .5g, unless your one of those really rare people that are super sensitive to psychedelics or you've done shrooms for a long time and know what to look for. If you feel you need a shroom experience in your life, try like a gram and a half to start. I started with an eighth of liberty caps for my first psychedelic experience, but i would say you're probably better off dipping your feet in before going deep sea diving.


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: BdyBlder420]
    #7461324 - 09/27/07 05:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

.5 won't get you shit, especially if you're on meds. I don't think OCD is a mental disease that gets worse because you trip like Schizophrenia.

I'd say drop the meds, there's a reason why you're sad and you shouldn't be masking it with pills. Then trip on 2gs maybe.


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: BdyBlder420]
    #7461327 - 09/27/07 05:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well, a .5 gram dose wouldnt be all that much. definately nothing to worry about there. but yes, start with .5, and work your way up from there. test it yourself. Nobody can tell you what you are ready for.

But a .5 gram starting dose, when you are on 2 different SSRIs will probably leave you feeling slightly stoned. but i guess its better to be safe then sorry. If i were you i would start out with a gram. Thats me though. Start with what you are comfortable with.

Edit: shrooms have been known to help with OCD.


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7461580 - 09/27/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I´m not sure what OCD is, some kind of depression? how old are you? what experience have you had with drugs (not legal ones)?

I´m with ALCapwn, me think psychiatric pills just mess up with your head and take out clarity of thinking. You should´t trust so much on doctors prescribing you drugs for some supposed mental illness. how are they to say who´s healthy?

I´d recommend you do some traveling to a very different place from where you live now. see how you feel, away from everything and everyone. that´s what helped me when i started feeling that nothing made sense.
shrooms are like that, they´ll help you get a different perspective of live. so yes I say go for them, but you should finish all your homework first. shrooms are the end (and beginning) of a long journey


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: Ermizhad]
    #7461606 - 09/27/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

OCD= Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, its not a type of depression at all. Look it up on wikipedia or something. I have no idea why any of those drugs would help with OCD though.


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: opensaysme]
    #7462482 - 09/27/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I guess im just a little hesitant about taking too large of a dose at first because I really want to avoid a bad trip. Some of the literature I have read on it depicts a bad trip as a truly nightmarish episode; something i want to avoid at all costs. I have smoked marijuana daily for the past year and have experienced no ill effects with the meds, just FYI. When I first started smoking weed I had a couple bad "trips" i guess you could say, and I handled those fine. I don't know if that changes anything. But yes, I have done other "drugs".

So if I go up to a gram or 1.5 grams, am i dealing with a dose might be too much for me, b/c like I said, i don't want to fuck a bad trip. Also, is it true that a person can become permanently "fried" after just one trip on shrooms? Or is that propagandist bullshit?

Thanks again.


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: BdyBlder420]
    #7462501 - 09/27/07 10:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If you have OCD, I would avoid doing any kind of recreational drugs. From my experience, doing drugs just makes that shit worse. Heck, I never really had any OCD symptoms until I started abusing dextromethorphan (DMX). That shit really me up in the head.

You should probably get your personal problems sorted out before jumping into any psychedelic stuff, or maybe just never do it.


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: BdyBlder420]
    #7462575 - 09/27/07 11:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

1.5 grams would be just enough to feel effects, a bad trip on such a low dose is near impossible, and if it was it'd be really mild. Also, propagandist bullshit. People have developed HPPD, but these are in really rare cases, and usually with really high doses.

Main thing to worry about it the OCD, you might want to look into OCD and Psychedelics.

Here's an article how mushrooms might be hope for OCD patients however.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6210694.stm


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7462621 - 09/27/07 11:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

I currently take 4 antidepressants for OCD/depression. They are paxil, risperdal, anafranil, and lithium. From the research I have done, it is safe to combine these meds with shrooms,




Personally and just me... I'd say get over the need for that stew rather than keep throwing in ingredients. Exactly how is the real question that begs an answer.


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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7462661 - 09/28/07 12:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

1.5 grams can make some people trip balls.

My only advise is to quit the meds.

Thats some very harmful stuff.

"Im sad, anyone have a pill for that"?
"I step over cracks in the sidewalk in mathematical order....anyone have pills for that"?

Some people have some extreem mental weirdness. I would never recommend pills unless they were actually "loosing it" or basically needed to be sedated.
I was so interested in psychology as a profession until I learned how that feild really worked. Its just fucking gross for the most part.

If my mom stopped taking her pills I would have to visit her every day, and thats because a quick fix within a pill is not the answer and only makes you pay lots of money and these drugs fuck with your head to an astonishing degree.
Over time, you cant live without your fucking pills.

These drugs work well for most people. Thats because they are drugs meant for a specific purpose and they are taken daily.


If you are fucking with your head this much with drugs, I dont see why you shouldnt try a psychedelic drug.

My only advise is to get off those fucking meds.

I mean, Lithium?...........really?


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    #7462686 - 09/28/07 12:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: Chubba]
    #7463067 - 09/28/07 04:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sorry to hear that. 30g dry is an insanly high dose.
It is kind of ironic that OCD has been treated in trials with mushrooms,

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Re: Should I go for it? [Re: BdyBlder420]
    #7463390 - 09/28/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think you would be ok with 1.5g-2g. Bad trips are rare at such doses.

I don't know much about the medications you are taking, but I have never heard of harmful interactions with mushrooms.

Don't bother with .5 grams... it will be disappointing.


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