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Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet.
    #7460555 - 09/27/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I just thought of this I don't know if it's been done yet so if it's out there I'm not saying this is 100% my idea. I just have never seen it and I want to try it.

On a standard dunk and roll, instead of using verm use hpoo or a casing mix of your choice.

I'm going to try this on a coupld of cakes and see if my results vary.

If anyone has done this before. Could you post up results or if it's even worth it.


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: eleven34]
    #7460580 - 09/27/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I would just spawn to poo if your going to all that trouble, but my success is questionable at best :wink:


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: rodfarva]
    #7460632 - 09/27/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You can always try.
Some will say to avoid any nutritious medium to prevent contams.


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: Fraggin]
    #7460667 - 09/27/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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You can always try.
Some will say to avoid any nutritious medium to prevent contams.




What do you mean?


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: Lily_Morgan]
    #7460708 - 09/27/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Any uncolonized material that contains nutrients, and exposed to the open air, will get contams. The reason people use verm is because there is no nutrition for contams to grab a hold to and start a colony. Also, the purpose of rolling in verm is to give the mycelium a micro-climate that encourages an even pinset, and to retain moisture.


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: eleven34]
    #7460716 - 09/27/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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eleven34 said:
On a standard dunk and roll, instead of using verm use hpoo or a casing mix of your choice.




This has been suggested before. Using a nutritious roll is really asking for contamination, and most casing mixtures other than dry vermiculite won't stick to the cake very well (you could always try, though).


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: Lily_Morgan]
    #7460717 - 09/27/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

A casing layer is suppose to be a non-nutritious layer, to aid in keeping your substrate moist. If u want to use poo the best thing to do would be to break up your cakes and use them as spawn for the pasteurized poo, let that colonize then add a casing layer.


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #7460804 - 09/27/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well it looks like I will get contams so I won't try it. I will just case some and not others. I thought someone might have thought of this before.

Thanks to all who replied


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: eleven34]
    #7473372 - 10/01/07 10:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Well it looks like I will get contams so I won't try it. I will just case some and not others. I thought someone might have thought of this before.

Thanks to all who replied




If you want to do something exotic, try a poo cake. Those things are interesting when they work...


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: Fraggin]
    #7473413 - 10/01/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

When coming up with the dunk and roll the poo idea didn't work out to well. Coir did work well. Tried everything from ground up rockwool and up.


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: Magash]
    #7478794 - 10/02/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lol you kill me, dude. you can have it, if you want it that bad. lol


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: fahtster]
    #7478877 - 10/02/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

hAAHhaa... MEh... HAHahah :laugh:


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: rodfarva]
    #7479547 - 10/03/07 01:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

if you wanted to dunk and roll in something other than just verm, you could use 50/50 as for casings.


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: roquet]
    #7479565 - 10/03/07 02:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

To do that is to add un-colonized substrate to an unsterile environment and pretty much guarantees 100% contamination eventually, you might get some fruits before the Green Meanies get you, but they will surely get you.

Substrate=Nutrition providing
Casing=Moisture providing

Don't try to make one do both, let them do their respective jobs.


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Re: Thought of New idea don't know if it's been done yet. [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7479596 - 10/03/07 02:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I forgot to say for 50/50 you should at least pasteurize it. I always sterilize.


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