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InvisibleAlion
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How do we know reality?
    #7459205 - 09/27/07 08:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

How? Reality could just be use tripping, but being able to control it. Not in the sense were you see hallucenations but its just another state that isnt the real state. When you dream you use DMT the stuff that makes you trip in your sleep, (otherwise you'd go insane) so at night maybe that is the REAL reality. and this 'waking up' is just another term for leaving that reality to come to this one.


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Re: How do we know reality? [Re: Alion]
    #7459234 - 09/27/07 08:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yup, if you wanna split them :shrug:
A dream is a dream to this reality and when we lucid dream, we're aware that we're dreaming and we're also aware of the "real" reality


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Re: How do we know reality? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7459248 - 09/27/07 08:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the quick reply


Im against lucid dreaming, i lost touch with what was real and what wasn't after a while practicing how to perfect it. :frown:


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Re: How do we know reality? [Re: Alion]
    #7459260 - 09/27/07 08:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

When awake our thoughts are not as powerful as our actions.

When asleep it's all about your thoughts.

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Re: How do we know reality? [Re: Alion]
    #7459574 - 09/27/07 09:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Alion said:
How? Reality could just be use tripping, but being able to control it. Not in the sense were you see hallucenations but its just another state that isnt the real state. When you dream you use DMT the stuff that makes you trip in your sleep, (otherwise you'd go insane) so at night maybe that is the REAL reality. and this 'waking up' is just another term for leaving that reality to come to this one.




Totally tripin dude.


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Re: How do we know reality? [Re: Alion]
    #7459881 - 09/27/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Alion said:
How? Reality could just be use tripping, but being able to control it. Not in the sense were you see hallucenations but its just another state that isnt the real state. When you dream you use DMT the stuff that makes you trip in your sleep, (otherwise you'd go insane) so at night maybe that is the REAL reality. and this 'waking up' is just another term for leaving that reality to come to this one.




a) it is only theory that dmt is produced during rem sleep and causes dreams, not fact

b) where do you get the idea that without 'tripping in your sleep' one would go insane?

and even if at night is the 'real reality' how can you say where we currently are now isn't also a 'real reality'?


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Re: How do we know reality? [Re: demiu5]
    #7459937 - 09/27/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

where do you get the idea that without 'tripping in your sleep' one would go insane?

This is the one that really cracked me up.:lol:


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Re: How do we know reality? [Re: Alion]
    #7460033 - 09/27/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think therefore I am. So I'm real. Concerning the outside world, we can only asymptotically approach certainty based on continued verification that rules and order exist and continue to exist but can never be reach absolute certain.


Edited by FocusHawaii (09/27/07 07:24 PM)


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