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Believe in Astrology?
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Whats your Sign?

Im a Pisces with a Leo moon.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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Im a Pisces


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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ya for Pisces! The oddest out of the 12 wouldn't you say? lol.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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I've never really gotten the whole astrology thing exactly, but for curiosity's sake I looked up my sign and when I read the description for it, it turned out to fit my psyche precisely. I mean, I think there are aspects of every one of them that can fit a well-developed personality, but there's that one that just clicks and makes you somewhow unique from others, y'know?

I'm a Scorpio. I've generally always been very dark and deep. It's only in recent years that I've been able to lighten up a good deal. I also, as the description said, tend to go through times of metamorphosis where I change completely.


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"I threw a small stone down at the reflection of my image in the water, and it altogether disappeared. I burst as it shattered through me, like a bullet through a bottle... and I'm expected to believe that any of this is real!" -mewithoutYou

"To believe in the wide-awake real, through all the stupefying, enervating, distorting dream: to will to wake, when the very being seems athirst for godless repose: these are the broken steps up to the high fields where repose is but a form of strength, strength but a form of joy, joy but a form of love." -George MacDonald

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: stellar renegade]
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I got into astrology once, to find out that, if I pay enough attention, I fit all the descriptions :lol: :shrug:
Just doesn't work for me I guess... :strokebeard:


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Lol scorpios are the only people who cant deny the zodiac. They always fit the bil waaaay too much. psychicaly and mentally.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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Libra with a Virgo moon.

Got the libra symbol tattoed on my back

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Dave Bowman]
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lol yeah I don't really know much about my sign, is there any special traits in Pisces,

How about the Chinese's new year calender, I'm the boar oink oink its year of the boar


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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Hakim0777 said:
Lol scorpios are the only people who cant deny the zodiac. They always fit the bil waaaay too much. psychicaly and mentally.

haha, really?  wowww.

I always seem to fit the bill with any of these things that I try.  One time I was on some site that analyzes your name somehow, and it really, really worked.  Like everything it said seemed dead-on.  It was weird.  Especially when it didn't work for others. :shocked: :confused:

Anyway, what does the moon have to do with anything?  Can anyone please explain that to me?


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"I threw a small stone down at the reflection of my image in the water, and it altogether disappeared. I burst as it shattered through me, like a bullet through a bottle... and I'm expected to believe that any of this is real!" -mewithoutYou

"To believe in the wide-awake real, through all the stupefying, enervating, distorting dream: to will to wake, when the very being seems athirst for godless repose: these are the broken steps up to the high fields where repose is but a form of strength, strength but a form of joy, joy but a form of love." -George MacDonald

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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No, I don't believe in astrology. I fail to see how stars many light years away can possibly have any effect on anyone's personality. And no, I don't fit the description of Virgos, either. :thumbdown:

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Le_Canard]
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why star light effects plants and the earth


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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> Believe in Astrology?

Nope. I believe that the moon can cause people to act oddly (based upon person experience), but I find it difficult to believe that the position of the stars on the day that I am born can have any effect upon the outcome of my life.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Seuss]
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yeah apparently its the moons gravity that makes the seas tide come in and out


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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7293403/an/0/page/1

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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My girlfriend is an astrologer, and she makes money with it, and believes in it too... At least it works for her... :smirk: She can read cards too, but likes astrology better... She read my horoscope and it fit quite well... But I still can't understand the whole mechanics of it. I can't understand how it works. She said that it is easy, and can't understand why I can't learn it...  :shrug:

Sometimes I think it is like you can't decide in your life, and flip a coin... It doesn't matter to you what will come... Maybe astrology is like that, just more interesting... So interesting, that people pay for it if you are good at it...


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So dreaming let's you know reality exists.



I don't belive. I fear.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Bard]
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I'm a Gemini.


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Evolution of Time.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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Hakim0777 said:
Whats your Sign?

Im a Pisces with a Leo moon.


I'm a Feces.:poop::monkeydance:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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alchino23 said:
lol yeah I don't really know much about my sign, is there any special traits in Pisces,

How about the Chinese's new year calender, I'm the boar oink oink its year of the boar


http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/zodiac/pisces.htm

good read. long but good.

as for moon signs I think moon signs are just a little more into how you deal with emotions and shit.

http://www.ofesite.com/spirit/horoscop/moonsign


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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Thanks for the link.  :smile:

I don't think it's that the stars affect someone's personality so much as they mark the season that the person was born in, which gives some kind of sign of what that person will be like.  But I don't know how well it really works or not.  Human interpretations can be lame. :ohwell:


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"I threw a small stone down at the reflection of my image in the water, and it altogether disappeared. I burst as it shattered through me, like a bullet through a bottle... and I'm expected to believe that any of this is real!" -mewithoutYou

"To believe in the wide-awake real, through all the stupefying, enervating, distorting dream: to will to wake, when the very being seems athirst for godless repose: these are the broken steps up to the high fields where repose is but a form of strength, strength but a form of joy, joy but a form of love." -George MacDonald

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: stellar renegade]
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wow thanks I'm about to read it now with a nice pint of tea with ground Cinnamon stick AND with a nice big fat pure joint

thanks  :peace: & :heart:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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wow thanks for that, alot of it dose relate to me, quite short, big hands and feet, eyes are my best feature, thin hair, love to imagine hate people saying I cant or its not possible, I am emotional, pick happiness over money anytime, used to say to my ex "as long as I'm with you I don't care if i live in a cardboard box on the street" lol have run a business and when I get in to running my own shop it takes over me like I'm a business machine, now I'm not working I'm not boherd what I'm doing as long as I'm leering something new, been thinking about Buddhism and yoga funny enough and thinking about meditating. don't care what people think of me, I'm not judgmental of people & there problems and try to look deeper then the cover of a book, like to help and want to heal the world, I know and feel when people are evil and whom to say away from, I can see when people are hiding something or not being straight with me "like a gut feeling" lol I can keep going on and on

p.s I just relived out of all the windows backgrounds, all this time since I got vista Ive picked the underwater desktop background with the Lil fishies and turtles awwww lol


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Edited by alchino23 (09/28/07 02:39 AM)

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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i am reading a book called Psyche and the Cosmos right now, it talks a lot about the cosmos and alignments and their influence

Carl Jung was a believer in astrology near the later parts of his life


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alarmist]
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check this book out Ive posted on shroomery

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7293403/an/0/page/1

Its very insightful about why we are here


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Edited by alchino23 (09/28/07 02:29 AM)

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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Ill definitely check it out. Glad to have helped with the astrology. That shit can be scary dead on some times. Did you find out your moon sign?


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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alchino23 said:
why star light effects plants and the earth


if, by starlight, you mean the sun, then yes.


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ca'rouse (k-rouz)
intr.v.
To engage in boisterous, drunken merrymaking.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: TODAY]
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Shhhh! This thread is not supposed to contain any logic.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OP picked the wrong forum


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ca'rouse (k-rouz)
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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Believe in Astrology?

I can't help but notice that the mumbo jumbo forum next door had a "Daily Horoscope" thread stickied for a while. Now it's gone.

Must not have been very useful, duh. :dumblol:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Diploid]
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Carl Jung also based a lot of his theories on dreams that he had.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Crystal G]
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Real astrology is based on exact time and latitude/longitude of birth. Even a few minutes can make a big difference in a chart and on subsequent progressions/directions/transits.

I no longer have anything to do with it though.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:ike you were aliitle too

Shhhh! This thread is not supposed to contain any logic.


I guess our logic just isnt on the Sean Connery level. Whoops! dont be a troll, if you dont agree with astrology then dont post here...or better yet make a topic denouncing it So it has some credibility.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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No, this is a debate forum, everyone's free to post in any thread and disagree with what others have to say :shrug:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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I agree, free to say what u like thats why this is such a good site, you can dive in to the minds of others and understand there programing


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Edited by alchino23 (09/29/07 07:06 AM)

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: stellar renegade]
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stellar renegade said:
Anyway, what does the moon have to do with anything?  Can anyone please explain that to me?


Your Moon sign is your emotional responce that you give to yourself and those around you, its your first instinctive reaction towards lifes problems, and also, how you go about solving those problems.

A quick look up of your birthchart can figure out what your Moon sign is, as well as your Ascendant (How the world see's you, before they get to know you... Basically, their first impression of you/the mask that you show to the world). But you'll need an actual birthtime to figure that out.

All you need to run a birthchart (and they ARE free if you go to http://www.astro.com/) is your time of birth (hour and minutes--am/or pm), date of birth (day, month, year), and place of birth (country, state, city) and then you type all that it the most accurately that you can and WALAH! Your on your path to self-discovery. :smile:

I can post my birthchart if you all would like me to, Ive done plenty of them for my friends, family, authors, musicians, etc., etc.

PM me with your info and I'll hook you guys up with a birthchart if you dont have the time to do it yourself, I have an account at Astro.com and it will only take a second.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Silvermind]
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hey my moon sign is Taurus
whats the low down on that,
My time wasnt completly accurate mabey 5 mins give a or take, dose that matter?


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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I'm supposed to be a Taurus, but it doesn't fit me at all.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Exiztenzial]
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If found that alot of tauruses and virgos really dont fit there signs sometimes.

where as geminis and scorpios are always dead on.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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Quote:
where as geminis and scorpios are always dead on.



You realize of course, that this would be easy to test - and that it would fail.

Not one person has ever been able to pinpoint the slightest alignment between birthdate and personality.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Im gonna have to disagree. I think the people that are so against it just haven't really looked into it far enough.

Im not saying that the stars and shit can predict how the present time is(daily horoscopes are bullshit) But I dont think depending on the season and the alignments it does give you kind of a rough sculpture of yourself by it.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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Im gonna have to disagree. I think the people that are so against it just haven't really looked into it far enough.


Is that what you think?:monkeydance:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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Yes, Icey. He can tell how much research you or I have done by reading a paragraph or so. Also see thread on Telepathy.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I was also thinking on Diploid, who seems to know much more about it then those you put so much stock in it.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Yes it is, and thats just the thing its what I think. I am what I think. It works for me.

Even if we have conflicting views it doesn't really matter. Sorry I put words in your guys mouths.

I have my beliefs you have yous lets leave it at that.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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I have my beliefs you have yous lets leave it at that.

Not in a debate forum you don't:hissyfit: :wink:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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Whats there to debate? I think Astrology exist you think it doesn't. Ive met people who match there signs Ive met people who dont. Its all up to whether or not you want to believe it or not.

I see this going in circles soon. But if you'd like to debate throw some shit out then. Proof that it doesn't exist?

thats the problem you cant prove it does or doesn't so what it boils down in the end is if you want to accept it or not.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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If there's nothing to debate then you don't need to be fucking posting here dude.:thumbup:

If your debate style is "I believe it so there", then you really don't need to be posting here. Try the fantasy forum next door.:D


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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thats the problem you cant prove it does or doesn't so what it boils down in the end is if you want to accept it or not.

I don't need to prove it doesn't exist. It's up to the person who makes claim that is does exist to provide proofs to back the claim.:crazy2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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Where/what is the basis for astrology?

Why are people born on the same date, time, longitude and latitude completely different?

Why do people of all signs given the exact same highly-detailed horoscope claim it to be 90% correct on average?

Why can't people match their sign to their horoscope in blind tests?

Why do all astrologers give completely different readings (unless using the same software) and strongly disagree with other astrologers?

I had a near-death experience (sans the white light and tunnel). Three highly-rated astrologers were unable to even pinpoint the month of this most powerful life experience.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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"I believe it so there" seems actually to be quite a common retort in all of the debates Ive seen in Philosophy & Spirituality.

beyond my belief of I believe it so there im also trying to stress that its something that cant really be disproved or proven so the only logical idea would be "I believe it so there".

What about it do you want to debate? do you personally have anything to disprove it besides your own personal bias?


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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"I believe it so there" seems actually to be quite a common retort in all of the debates Ive seen in Philosophy & Spirituality.

Yes and guess who's making this retort? People without any real evidence for their claims.

Astrology has been debunked throughly many times in this forum. So because I ask for some real evidence for a claim made in a debate forum I have a personal bias? :monkeydance:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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of cousre you have a personal bias! everybody does...I know I sure do.

Then please Ice show me some solid ass evidence that it doesn't exist...I have yet to see a debate on astrology where it could be completely debunked. At the same time ive never seen it proven ether. I based mine of personal experience. In the end thats all you can really count on.


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Re: Believe in Asstrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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Let us assume for the moment that astrology is 'real'. Where does the phrase "Cancers are homebodies" originate from? How can I backtrack this and come to the same conclusion?


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Re: Believe in Asstrology? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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That means that alot of cancers are comfortable and feel safe at home, they like to nest. they fit the housewife image. They value it over most other people.


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Re: Believe in Asstrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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I am a homebody and I am Aries. Astrology debunks itself with it's track record. If it's a true science then it should apply to everyone. If not then it's not. If one needs other proof I don't know what it would be.

I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster therefor it is truth. You will have to disprove it's existence before I can entertain the notion that I'm fucking nuts.;)


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Asstrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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I must have missed wherein you pointed to the basis for this declaration and how I could come to the same conclusion.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7255579#7255579


However, over the course of the 2000+ years since astrology was invented, precession has drifted the zodiac by about 30 degrees, or one entire sign. Professional astronomers compensate by issuing new tables at each epoch, but astrologers stuck in 2000 year old pseudo-science do not.


This is why if you think you're any given sign, you are actually one sign over. Most astrologers are ignorant of these facts because all they do is plug your birthday into a computer program and 'interpret' what comes out. The ones that do know about precession never mention it because it would wreck their money-making system. Both types of a$trologers count on their blind followers to never look this stuff up for themselves.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (09/30/07 09:33 PM)

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Hakim0777]
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At least a possible explanation for the zodiac signs could be, as they point to specific 'quadrants' of our galaxy, that maybe from these sectors different kind of unidentified energies hit us (edit: distorted by the passing planets), which we interpret in regards to the pointing signs.
I am not deep into astrology anymore, but it amazed me quite some times :wink:
But it more seems that it only describes the circle of the earth around our sun with the emanating correspondent seasons, connected to the signs. Badly, no outer influence as far as I see. But of course the cycles influence our life here quite much. How far they shape our personalities, I don't dare to tell out from thin air, but it is surely not negligible.
I use the teachings of the astrological rhythms for my rare further studies.

Gemini, ascendant scorpio here :wink:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Diploid]
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haha, I remember a friend reading me my horoscope. I was skeptical and started to read other horoscopes only to find that others fit me just as well as the one she read.

funny vid though


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I don't believe in astrology . The bible talks about a sort of astrology though for instance when the wise men tell by the stars that the messiah is to be born.

I know at least one person who was really into it, like that was his religion. I don't understand how people can think you can determine all these things just by celestial bodies without anything concrete to interpret them.

The truth is things like this are easily manipulated to reach people with common experiences, common values. They do the same thing with music. It's made to target a broad range of people. So many people just don't understand that we're alot more alike than they would like to believe, not to mention there's so many people who have this desire to be everything all at once, vain people who think in thier heart they are the completeness of the godhead bodily.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Diploid]
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:rofl2:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Diploid]
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That only proves that one can create ONE horoscope that fits most people ?! :wink:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: BlueCoyote]
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can any one send me a link to a very good Taurus reading please
thanks


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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Very Good Taurus Reading


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: fireworks_god]
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:lol:

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: MushroomTrip]
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lol google you joker :discodance:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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Astrology is not a science, or it is not a scientific theory... So proving that it doesn't exist is impossible... But it doesn't mean that astrology doesn't exist. You can view your birth chart, you can think about it, and you can learn from it. Or at least you can amuse yourself with it... It's a tool, which has a way of using it.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Bard]
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> and you can learn from it.

You can learn from a pile of dog feces as well... The problem is people that believe in astrology use astrology to help make decisions. I prefer to make educated decisions rather than trusting my fate to the toss of a coin.

> It's a tool, which has a way of using it.

Toilet paper is a tool, astrology is a fantasy.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Seuss]
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I believe astrology could be an ascent technology of past civilizations or been taught from spirit guides and guardian angels for a gife to man kind,

or mabey its come from other worldly planets lol just a theory


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
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I know at least one person who was really into it, like that was his religion. I don't understand how people can think you can determine all these things just by celestial bodies without anything concrete to interpret them.


The same way that people can believe in a personal God/creator without real evidence. It's wishful thinking and death anxiety. The inability to live in a chaotic messy world without some father figure telling one how to live and what to do. It's a form of perpetual infancy.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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I just had an interesting thought

I remember watching something of David ickes

He said there have been reports of identical twins thats been separated at birth,

They always led the same life, brake there legs "same leg at the same time in there life", visit same places and have the same thoughts, illnesses and same life's, same pets names and pets, almost down to every detail

he said that exactly at the moment of birth, the sole/body takes on a imprint of thats days energy making them live out almost the same lives as the other twin

is that just consciences that twins always have same injuries and live out the same life's?


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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:rofl2:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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Quote:
I just had an interesting thought

I remember watching something of David ickes

He said there have been reports of identical twins thats been separated at birth,

They always led the same life, brake there legs "same leg at the same time in there life", visit same places and have the same thoughts, illnesses and same life's, same pets names and pets, almost down to every detail

he said that exactly at the moment of birth, the sole/body takes on a imprint of thats days energy making them live out almost the same lives as the other twin

is that just consciences that twins always have same injuries and live out the same life's?


Gee..so they fall in love with the same woman.


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Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: shakercee]
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They can only fall in love with twins.:monkeydance:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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I'm just letting you know there have been reports

I'm also a person who believes all languages was given from god

and that man never made language

thats what I believe

we are free to believe what ever we want and should respect what other believe in even if you don't


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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That twin theory is interesting. I have a twin pair as old elementary school mates. I don't know them very well since elementary school, but I know that one of them belives in astrology... maybe it's based on her life experiences with her sister? I should ask them about this at a reunion type meeting or something...


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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alchino23 said:
I'm just letting you know there have been reports

I'm also a person who believes all languages was given from god

and that man never made language

thats what I believe


Language is one of our greatest accomplishments; it wasn't bestowed upon us. It has occured naturally, over thousands of years - the result of human beings relating to each other. To be understood is based upon a lot of misunderstanding. :smirk:

The thought of prehistoric men sitting facing each other, a rock between them, conveys quite well how it all started. The larger, more hairy man pointed to the rock, and then pointed to himself. The other man pointed at the rock, and then pointed at himself, mimicking the behavior of the large man. This resulted in the larger man slapping the hand of the other man, and then he repeated the gesture. The other man started to point to himself after pointing at the rock, and then the pattern recognition program in his mind jolted him with the unpleasant sensation of being smacked. In order to avoid this, he stopped for a second, and then, in a moment of inspiration, pointed towards the larger man. A breakthrough experience, inevitably producing this present conversation. :hehehe:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
The problem is people that believe in astrology use astrology to help make decisions. I prefer to make educated decisions rather than trusting my fate to the toss of a coin.



I think, that the people who use astrology to make decisions, are making their decisions based on astrology when all else fails, when they can't decide otherwise, when an "educated" decision is not possible. And at that point it is more accurate than flipping a coin. I mean it is more in tune with the unconscious of the given person, and less random...


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: fireworks_god]
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I am often intrigued by new words..who would have invented it, the first person to utter it.  I hope to coin a few new words myself in my lifetime..:hehehe:


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Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy - Ambrose Bierce

Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
- Indian Armed Forces

"Hey Monkey!! Get Funky" - Tarzan and Jane

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Bard]
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Bard said:
I think, that the people who use astrology to make decisions, are making their decisions based on astrology when all else fails, when they can't decide otherwise, when an "educated" decision is not possible.


Come on, that is just open-ended speculation. Every individual makes their decisions due to the manner in which they have come to make decisions, and to hear this proposition as a way of justifying the usage of astrology, a practice that the explanation of "how" it works is baseless, is a little dubious. :wink:

The energies and personality traits that are associated with certain constellations and their relationship with the birthdate of each individual have no source from these constellations, as subtle rotational patterns of Earth have shifted such that a Libra is not actually a Libra any longer. If the foundation for this practice is that these constellations' alignment with the Earth on one's birthday is responsible for the phenomenon of one's traits matching the predefined traits, then astrology is bunk in that manner.

Of course, one's personality and behaviorial characteristics are much more influenced by the set and setting in which one has been raised, coupled with the subsequent manners in which each individual chooses to act and think. Flashlights and parking lot lights logically have just as much effect on one's personality as stars, yet you don't see people claiming to be born underneath the sign of Maglite. :shrug:

I'd personally rather define myself, and live my life in accordance with the relationships I share on this planet, which are much more amazing than the position of the stars. :whoah: :heartpump:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: fireworks_god]
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Okay, you maybe right, I don't know about how other people make their decisions...

The other thing, which came forward before, that the Libra is not a Libra anymore and so on... It is true astronomically, but somehow astrology is not working that way. It is not the actual stars, but the given, not changing 30 degree part of the sky, which counts (these parts have names which is confusing I agree). This is the unmoving component in astrology. The moving component is the planets or the stars. For example there can be an actual star of the Leo "constellation" in the Libra astrological "sign". And that has a meaning astrologically. Constellation and sign are not the same, and astrologers don't say this because of ignorance, but this system is not working that way.


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: fireworks_god]
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Even if the stars do effect our personality, how could any one possibly make a chart which lays it out so perfectly? Thats my main reason against it, even if the basic idea is true, theres no way any one would know how to decipher there effects.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
alchino23 said:
I'm just letting you know there have been reports

I'm also a person who believes all languages was given from god

and that man never made language

thats what I believe


Language is one of our greatest accomplishments; it wasn't bestowed upon us. It has occured naturally, over thousands of years - the result of human beings relating to each other. To be understood is based upon a lot of misunderstanding. :smirk:

The thought of prehistoric men sitting facing each other, a rock between them, conveys quite well how it all started. The larger, more hairy man pointed to the rock, and then pointed to himself. The other man pointed at the rock, and then pointed at himself, mimicking the behavior of the large man. This resulted in the larger man slapping the hand of the other man, and then he repeated the gesture. The other man started to point to himself after pointing at the rock, and then the pattern recognition program in his mind jolted him with the unpleasant sensation of being smacked. In order to avoid this, he stopped for a second, and then, in a moment of inspiration, pointed towards the larger man. A breakthrough experience, inevitably producing this present conversation. :hehehe:


total bullshit your talking mate

lol watch this south park clip this is what you belive hahahaha

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4]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7079290349652755994[/url]
OOOOOOOOOOOOO W A T C H    T H I S  I T S  F U N N Y OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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haha monkey fish frog


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: DimensionX]
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DimensionX said:
Even if the stars do effect our personality, how could any one possibly make a chart which lays it out so perfectly? Thats my main reason against it, even if the basic idea is true, there's no way any one would know how to decipher there effects.


thats where i believe guardian angels, god and spirits and astral travailing come in to play

everything that is and ever was is soooo perfect,

don't forget god never just made man and earth,

why so much space if gods not using it for something

we all know how massively unthinkable space and the universe/multivers and foreverness is like

so perfect to the nanometer

see at the bottom of my text box

click that book download and read, its quite interesting even if you don't believe it


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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Life is a constant transformation of form, even in this moment. The identity that we associate with being human belies the nature of these transformative qualities. Contribute to the discussion in a meaningful manner or not, it is your choice. :shrug:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Bard]
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Ahh, but what actually makes it so that the position of these stars have this effect? Wouldn't everyone display the same traits as the earth spins on its axis and revolves around the Sun? Why is it that the position of the stars on the first day that you are born has such a signfigant effect on one's personality, yet the effects of the positions of the stars on every other day do not?

Also, it would seem that every single star in the sky would have its effect, and how many stars are there? What is the mechanism in question for producing these effects? If it is not known, then how can we conclude the stars are responsible, if there are much more clear, observable aspects of reality that influence and shape our behavior?

Astrology simply seems to be horribly ineffective in representing the nature of reality. The simple fact that some individuals can read a description of how they are that someone else has written, and exclaim "Hey, that is me!" demonstrates nothing. They ask, "How is it that this description describes me so well?" The answer of the individual that wrote the description, "Oh, its the position of the stars!". It just seems kind of shady to me... :shrug:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: fireworks_god]
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Thats cool that you believe in things like that alchino. I remember once i was talking to my friend, i was only about 14 and we were talking about the meaning of life, and he said "whatever it is, im sure its not going to be anything we expect". The truth of that really stuck with me. This universe is obviously something so far beyond out comprehension, that i think we would be arrogant to rule anything out.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: fireworks_god]
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sorry dude
I didn't mean to be rude but I cant see this whole cave man idea
I respect what you believe and its your choice
you can destroy any information of past life's in only few generations
I believe we had all theses ansures but got lost in time
it could of only been a few hundred years ago that everybody knew about this and after lots of suffering we forgot and wasn't taught
don't forget shrooms has brought us all together and thats like the oldest drug to man

anyway if we did evolve we must be cannibals in some sort of way.
and how come we cant speck animal, what happen to our fish, cat, monkey and all animal languages/cummunication,
why did we forget that if langues evolved with us?


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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lol yeah I'm deep, I do believe we evolve but only spiritually not physically


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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lol, i personally think both evolve.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: fireworks_god]
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fireworks_god said:
Ahh, but what actually makes it so that the position of these stars have this effect? Wouldn't everyone display the same traits as the earth spins on its axis and revolves around the Sun? Why is it that the position of the stars on the first day that you are born has such a significantly effect on one's personality, yet the effects of the positions of the stars on every other day do not?

Also, it would seem that every single star in the sky would have its effect, and how many stars are there? What is the mechanism in question for producing these effects? If it is not known, then how can we conclude the stars are responsible, if there are much more clear, observable aspects of reality that influence and shape our behavior?

Astrology simply seems to be horribly ineffective in representing the nature of reality. The simple fact that some individuals can read a description of how they are that someone else has written, and exclaim "Hey, that is me!" demonstrates nothing. They ask, "How is it that this description describes me so well?" The answer of the individual that wrote the description, "Oh, its the position of the stars!". It just seems kind of shady to me... :shrug:


I agree with you here, we don't know based on fact
but I do know one fact, it exists and has done for a very very long time since the dawn of man,

how did thay even know about the planets back then thay knew more then us?


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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alchino23 said:
I didn't mean to be rude but I cant see this whole cave man idea
I respect what you believe and its your choice


So humans just one day were capable of speaking the tens of thousands of different languages that grace this planet? See, that is an idea that doesn't make sense to me. We had to start somewhere, and I just don't comprehend how we one day were capable of utilizing language as we do today. :shrug:

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and how come we cant speck animal, what happen to our fish, cat, monkey and all animal languages/cummunication,
why did we forget that if langues evolved with us?


How possible is it to communicate with fish if we do not have the means to do so? If the muscles in our throat have changed so that we cannot make the same vocalizations as a cat, how can we speak that language with them?

Similarily, how is that you cannot speak French, or any language that your ancestors spoke? Because language is a learned ability, not something that lies inherent within us. The only thing inherent within us in regards to language is the ability to learn language.  :wink:


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If I should die this very moment
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: fireworks_god]
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yeah but that sounds just as crazy as endlessness and foreverness but we know its true

we know that by looking at space and why is space even here,why are we here, why are we here having this convo rite now, it is all madness but it just is :mushroom2: :crazy2:


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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how did fruits and plants evolve, Dont forget all the underwater world too, face it its the work of brilliant all loveing god

lol did u watch the south park clip


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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I'm already familiar with that episode of South Park; I don't see what Ms. Garrison's ill-informed rant has to do with anything. :shrug:

How did fruits and plants evolve? Changes in genetic information. It is the work of the Sun and its interaction with the Earth. :wink:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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alchino23 said:
I'm just letting you know there have been reports

I'm also a person who believes all languages was given from god

and that man never made language

thats what I believe

we are free to believe what ever we want and should respect what other believe in even if you don't


While you have the ability to believe whatever comes into your pretty little head I am under no obligation to respect you for it and don't. In fact your views seem totally unskillful and illogical to me. Why would I respect that? And why would I respect someone who thinks all Jews should be killed or that it doesn't matter if we destroy the environment as long as a buck is made, etc, etc? :monkeydance:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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Mod edit: no personalisms. If you can't debate the TOPIC without involving the poster, then don't post in this forum.

Please read the rules of this forum before posting here again.

Edited by Diploid (10/01/07 06:32 PM)

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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Please enlighten us.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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lol no I'm not going to, you said your thinking is logical so you can try put it together

I'm really sorry to the poster Hakim0777 for going off topic,
but theses subjects are all inter linked


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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lol no I'm not going to,

Yeah that's what I thought; further making my point.:tongue:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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I'm a cancer with a leo moon, that is pretty fucked up haha


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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You didn't answer the question.  You claim that we "should respect what other [sic] believe in," yet provide no reasoning to support your assertion.  What benefit is there to respecting other's beliefs, no matter the content or quality of said beliefs?  What obligates us to offer all beliefs the same respect?

BTW, resorting to personalisms is uncool.  :thumbdown:  Stick to supporting your claims & disputing the claims of others.

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: searchalx]
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searchalx said:
I'm a cancer with a leo moon, that is pretty fucked up haha


I'm sorry to hear about your cancer and your fucked up moon.:ass::frown:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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lol you see this guys attitude,
if you believe it or not
you should respect it
if you don't your gonna fight it
how can we have total love if people is fighting over religions and beliefs

you say we are not fighting

but some people would really kill over this issues,

you should respect people beliefs "ONLY IF IT IS HARMLESS AND PEACE LOVING"
then yeah you should respect it and also give your honest views and hope thy respect you also,

and hopefully both people can learn from this to understand others and yourself

total peace and total love,

ain't that what all religion teaches whether it be Mohamed, Jesus or Buddha,
same with astrology,

I'm not saying its a religion or anything

just a tool what only god could of given us if it really dose work


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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7293403/an/0/page/1

Edited by alchino23 (10/01/07 12:18 PM)

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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Quote:
you should respect it
if you don't your gonna fight it


This is a fallacious argument.  Disrespect for an idea does not necessarily involve disrespect for the individual proposing said idea.  In fact, this distinction is made quite clear in the rules of this forum.  Fighting is about taking things personally, or making things personal.  Discussing what's wrong with other posters' attitude is much more likely to lead to a fight than rationally disputing their ideas.  :thumbdown:

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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Quote:
total peace and total love


Would make a good movie title.

No, total peace or total love is just another form of forced behavior. WTF it just curtails my freedom.


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Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy - Ambrose Bierce

Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
- Indian Armed Forces

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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It's called debate. Some may want to kill over it but I do not. I would rather debate it to death. I don't respect your views because I believe them to be unhealthy and unskillful. This is nothing personal as far as not respecting your right to be here and say whatever you want and believe whatever you want. I'm just being honest with you. I know that many people (including myself) don't always enjoy that and sometimes take it personally.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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I'm not taking it personally

there are parts of the world and some types of people who would fight over anything like this

look at the silly stuff around this world and look what all the fighting is always about most of the time

anything that makes us separate is no good

when I mean accept peoples belief's its makes us whole to understand one and other

we are all from the same planet but just never more then 1000@ of miles apart and sometimes not even that far


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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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I'm not taking it personally


This seems like pure BS in light of what you said in your post. This is an example of what I don't respect, not taking responsibility for ones emotional states and just saying anything that might make one look good.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (10/01/07 12:49 PM)

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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Ok someone explain.
In the US in 1961 there were 4.3 million births. That averages out to 358000 in the month I was born. US only, worldwide I have no idea but the number must be huge. So everyone of those people share the same personality traits and must take the same daily actions as me to have a succesful life.

Stop it

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: El Zorro]
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:lol:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
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I'm not the rite person to ask I don't know
I dont know fuck all about astrology just that it has to do with planetary movment, gravity, energy's, radiation and light

its not logical for all them people in the day to have same traits, but aint 1 day good like loads of mood signs aswel


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Edited by alchino23 (10/01/07 01:11 PM)

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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:whoa:


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Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy - Ambrose Bierce

Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
- Indian Armed Forces

"Hey Monkey!! Get Funky" - Tarzan and Jane

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
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alchino23 said:
I'm not the rite person to ask I don't know
I dont know fuck all about astrology just that it has to do with planetary movment, gravity, energy's, radiation and light

its not logical for all them people in the day to have same traits, but aint 1 day good like loads of mood signs aswel


???:weirdeyes: ???

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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: El Zorro]
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what I know each sign has about 3 different types per sign so I think,

if there was 12 moon signs in a day lets say

and there was about 2 different meanings for 1 sign + female what half's it plus 2 different meenings for them per sign

thats like 4 different lifes in 1 sign times that by 12

so thats 48 different possible traits per day

how many towns are in USA and whats the poulation of them

I guess up bringing must effect theses natral traits


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Edited by alchino23 (10/01/07 03:53 PM)

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