fireworks_god said:

alchino23 said:

I'm just letting you know there have been reports

I'm also a person who believes all languages was given from god

and that man never made language

thats what I believe

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Language is one of our greatest accomplishments; it wasn't bestowed upon us. It has occured naturally, over thousands of years - the result of human beings relating to each other. To be understood is based upon a lot of misunderstanding.

The thought of prehistoric men sitting facing each other, a rock between them, conveys quite well how it all started. The larger, more hairy man pointed to the rock, and then pointed to himself. The other man pointed at the rock, and then pointed at himself, mimicking the behavior of the large man. This resulted in the larger man slapping the hand of the other man, and then he repeated the gesture. The other man started to point to himself after pointing at the rock, and then the pattern recognition program in his mind jolted him with the unpleasant sensation of being smacked. In order to avoid this, he stopped for a second, and then, in a moment of inspiration, pointed towards the larger man. A breakthrough experience, inevitably producing this present conversation.

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DimensionX said:

Even if the stars do effect our personality, how could any one possibly make a chart which lays it out so perfectly? Thats my main reason against it, even if the basic idea is true, there's no way any one would know how to decipher there effects.

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fireworks_god said:

Ahh, but what actually makes it so that the position of these stars have this effect? Wouldn't everyone display the same traits as the earth spins on its axis and revolves around the Sun? Why is it that the position of the stars on the first day that you are born has such a significantly effect on one's personality, yet the effects of the positions of the stars on every other day do not?

Also, it would seem that every single star in the sky would have its effect, and how many stars are there? What is the mechanism in question for producing these effects? If it is not known, then how can we conclude the stars are responsible, if there are much more clear, observable aspects of reality that influence and shape our behavior?

Astrology simply seems to be horribly ineffective in representing the nature of reality. The simple fact that some individuals can read a description of how they are that someone else has written, and exclaim "Hey, that is me!" demonstrates nothing. They ask, "How is it that this description describes me so well?" The answer of the individual that wrote the description, "Oh, its the position of the stars!". It just seems kind of shady to me...

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alchino23 said:

I didn't mean to be rude but I cant see this whole cave man idea
I respect what you believe and its your choice

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So humans just one day were capable of speaking the tens of thousands of different languages that grace this planet? See, that is an idea that doesn't make sense to me. We had to start somewhere, and I just don't comprehend how we one day were capable of utilizing language as we do today.

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and how come we cant speck animal, what happen to our fish, cat, monkey and all animal languages/cummunication,
why did we forget that if langues evolved with us?

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How possible is it to communicate with fish if we do not have the means to do so? If the muscles in our throat have changed so that we cannot make the same vocalizations as a cat, how can we speak that language with them?

Similarily, how is that you cannot speak French, or any language that your ancestors spoke? Because language is a learned ability, not something that lies inherent within us. The only thing inherent within us in regards to language is the ability to learn language. 

alchino23 said:

I'm just letting you know there have been reports

I'm also a person who believes all languages was given from god

and that man never made language

thats what I believe

we are free to believe what ever we want and should respect what other believe in even if you don't

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While you have the ability to believe whatever comes into your pretty little head I am under no obligation to respect you for it and don't. In fact your views seem totally unskillful and illogical to me. Why would I respect that? And why would I respect someone who thinks all Jews should be killed or that it doesn't matter if we destroy the environment as long as a buck is made, etc, etc?