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BlueCoyote
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Diploid]
#7472831 - 10/01/07 03:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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That only proves that one can create ONE horoscope that fits most people ?!
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alchino23
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: BlueCoyote]
#7472878 - 10/01/07 03:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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can any one send me a link to a very good Taurus reading please thanks
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
#7472898 - 10/01/07 04:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol google you joker
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
#7472963 - 10/01/07 06:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Astrology is not a science, or it is not a scientific theory... So proving that it doesn't exist is impossible... But it doesn't mean that astrology doesn't exist. You can view your birth chart, you can think about it, and you can learn from it. Or at least you can amuse yourself with it... It's a tool, which has a way of using it.
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Bard]
#7472992 - 10/01/07 06:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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> and you can learn from it.
You can learn from a pile of dog feces as well... The problem is people that believe in astrology use astrology to help make decisions. I prefer to make educated decisions rather than trusting my fate to the toss of a coin.
> It's a tool, which has a way of using it.
Toilet paper is a tool, astrology is a fantasy.
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Seuss]
#7472999 - 10/01/07 06:42 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I believe astrology could be an ascent technology of past civilizations or been taught from spirit guides and guardian angels for a gife to man kind,
or mabey its come from other worldly planets lol just a theory
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I know at least one person who was really into it, like that was his religion. I don't understand how people can think you can determine all these things just by celestial bodies without anything concrete to interpret them.
The same way that people can believe in a personal God/creator without real evidence. It's wishful thinking and death anxiety. The inability to live in a chaotic messy world without some father figure telling one how to live and what to do. It's a form of perpetual infancy.
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
#7473106 - 10/01/07 08:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just had an interesting thought
I remember watching something of David ickes
He said there have been reports of identical twins thats been separated at birth,
They always led the same life, brake there legs "same leg at the same time in there life", visit same places and have the same thoughts, illnesses and same life's, same pets names and pets, almost down to every detail
he said that exactly at the moment of birth, the sole/body takes on a imprint of thats days energy making them live out almost the same lives as the other twin
is that just consciences that twins always have same injuries and live out the same life's?
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
#7473126 - 10/01/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
#7473139 - 10/01/07 08:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just had an interesting thought
I remember watching something of David ickes
He said there have been reports of identical twins thats been separated at birth,
They always led the same life, brake there legs "same leg at the same time in there life", visit same places and have the same thoughts, illnesses and same life's, same pets names and pets, almost down to every detail
he said that exactly at the moment of birth, the sole/body takes on a imprint of thats days energy making them live out almost the same lives as the other twin
is that just consciences that twins always have same injuries and live out the same life's?
Gee..so they fall in love with the same woman.
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: shakercee]
#7473141 - 10/01/07 08:41 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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They can only fall in love with twins.
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Icelander]
#7473152 - 10/01/07 08:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm just letting you know there have been reports
I'm also a person who believes all languages was given from god
and that man never made language
thats what I believe
we are free to believe what ever we want and should respect what other believe in even if you don't
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
#7473163 - 10/01/07 08:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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That twin theory is interesting. I have a twin pair as old elementary school mates. I don't know them very well since elementary school, but I know that one of them belives in astrology... maybe it's based on her life experiences with her sister? I should ask them about this at a reunion type meeting or something...
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: alchino23]
#7473175 - 10/01/07 08:59 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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alchino23 said: I'm just letting you know there have been reports
I'm also a person who believes all languages was given from god
and that man never made language
thats what I believe
Language is one of our greatest accomplishments; it wasn't bestowed upon us. It has occured naturally, over thousands of years - the result of human beings relating to each other. To be understood is based upon a lot of misunderstanding. 
The thought of prehistoric men sitting facing each other, a rock between them, conveys quite well how it all started. The larger, more hairy man pointed to the rock, and then pointed to himself. The other man pointed at the rock, and then pointed at himself, mimicking the behavior of the large man. This resulted in the larger man slapping the hand of the other man, and then he repeated the gesture. The other man started to point to himself after pointing at the rock, and then the pattern recognition program in his mind jolted him with the unpleasant sensation of being smacked. In order to avoid this, he stopped for a second, and then, in a moment of inspiration, pointed towards the larger man. A breakthrough experience, inevitably producing this present conversation.
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Seuss]
#7473176 - 10/01/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seuss said: The problem is people that believe in astrology use astrology to help make decisions. I prefer to make educated decisions rather than trusting my fate to the toss of a coin.
I think, that the people who use astrology to make decisions, are making their decisions based on astrology when all else fails, when they can't decide otherwise, when an "educated" decision is not possible. And at that point it is more accurate than flipping a coin. I mean it is more in tune with the unconscious of the given person, and less random...
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I am often intrigued by new words..who would have invented it, the first person to utter it. I hope to coin a few new words myself in my lifetime..
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Re: Believe in Astrology? [Re: Bard]
#7473192 - 10/01/07 09:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bard said: I think, that the people who use astrology to make decisions, are making their decisions based on astrology when all else fails, when they can't decide otherwise, when an "educated" decision is not possible.
Come on, that is just open-ended speculation. Every individual makes their decisions due to the manner in which they have come to make decisions, and to hear this proposition as a way of justifying the usage of astrology, a practice that the explanation of "how" it works is baseless, is a little dubious.
The energies and personality traits that are associated with certain constellations and their relationship with the birthdate of each individual have no source from these constellations, as subtle rotational patterns of Earth have shifted such that a Libra is not actually a Libra any longer. If the foundation for this practice is that these constellations' alignment with the Earth on one's birthday is responsible for the phenomenon of one's traits matching the predefined traits, then astrology is bunk in that manner.
Of course, one's personality and behaviorial characteristics are much more influenced by the set and setting in which one has been raised, coupled with the subsequent manners in which each individual chooses to act and think. Flashlights and parking lot lights logically have just as much effect on one's personality as stars, yet you don't see people claiming to be born underneath the sign of Maglite.
I'd personally rather define myself, and live my life in accordance with the relationships I share on this planet, which are much more amazing than the position of the stars.
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Okay, you maybe right, I don't know about how other people make their decisions...
The other thing, which came forward before, that the Libra is not a Libra anymore and so on... It is true astronomically, but somehow astrology is not working that way. It is not the actual stars, but the given, not changing 30 degree part of the sky, which counts (these parts have names which is confusing I agree). This is the unmoving component in astrology. The moving component is the planets or the stars. For example there can be an actual star of the Leo "constellation" in the Libra astrological "sign". And that has a meaning astrologically. Constellation and sign are not the same, and astrologers don't say this because of ignorance, but this system is not working that way.
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