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WakeUpScreaming
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Anyone Like Bad Trips?
#7454177 - 09/26/07 12:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most of my trips are completely terrible. Probably like 90% of them in fact. I'm not talking about trips that aren't very enjoyable I mean like I'M LOST IN THE WOODS I HAVEN'T EATEN IN 2 DAYS I'M TRAPPED INSIDE OF MY BRAIN SOMEONE-KILL-ME-NOW kind of trips and while they are fucking terrible at the time I come out of that trip knowing so much more about myself. Anyone else agree? I used to avoid mushrooms and acid and mescaline and all of that stuff for fear of bad trips but now I will take psychedelics knowing that it could go completely terrible but I'm okay with it because I know I will actually get more out of it that way ya know. Most people think I'm insane because of this but whatever
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DepthToTheCore
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Ive never really had a bad trip, and ive tripped over 50 times i'd say on various things.
Although ive had some pretty bad thought loops in trips, when i come out of them i feel like ive confronted it and kinda gotten over it.
Im yet to have a really horrible trip, and i'd like to keep it that way.
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wolfsblood
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Although I can't say I "like" bad trips while they're happening I know that it means I'm getting some important stuff worked out in my subconscious. So I'm happy to have it happen. I always come out a better person.
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indica


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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: wolfsblood]
#7454224 - 09/26/07 01:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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last trip i had was a nightmare.
afterwards I felt like I'd won somethingg big. If i hadn't 'won' then it was certainly a draw
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botha


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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: indica]
#7454248 - 09/26/07 01:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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once when i tripped with Mj a lot, i had several bad trip's and panic attacks in a row.. and finaly, a week later, i felt i had feared all my fears and it felt so good.
that moment i was thinkin that maybe bad trip is a way how bad energy can get out of your body and mind, therefore making us pure
only bad thing in a bad trip is a "bad" in its name.
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marshalldylan1
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: botha]
#7454300 - 09/26/07 01:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I always learn the most from my bad trips, but never enjoy them as they take place.
They are very rare, most of my trips end up pretty fine.
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Varman
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I have to agree with marshalldylan1, and also my "bad" trips are the ones I think about the most when I am not tripping, by far the most influential. So in a way I like bad trips it gives me tons to comprehend and think about!
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dutchmushroom
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: Varman]
#7454366 - 09/26/07 02:16 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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iv actually thought this since my first bad trip, i always learn more about my problems and such, when i have a "bad trip"
peace out Dm
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AlCapwn
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I'm kind of looking forward to my first bad trip so I can learn about it. Fear is just an emotion after all, and I find drugs usually make that mentality more apparent.
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Chacer
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: AlCapwn]
#7454446 - 09/26/07 05:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont really like bad trips, but... When the trip ends, i always have the feeling that something big has happened, and it makes me wanna be a better person... So in a way, you could say that i like bad trips
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Elementium
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: Chacer]
#7454477 - 09/26/07 05:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used to rue the thought of a "bad trip" back when I was fresh.
However, I've found that in general those experiences that send my mind writhing in agony and fear end up being the most profound and truth-revealing moments of my life. Often it is then that I discover myself and really define who I am. In addition, returning intact from the maw of madness makes the next visit a bit easier.
While I don't necessarily like "bad trips," they're part of the journey. To avoid them altogether would be to leave out a major step in this dance of self-development and growth.
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roquet
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: Elementium]
#7454503 - 09/26/07 05:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd imagine with a large amount, like 7+ grams, a lot of people are going to find parts of the trip unpleasant and frightening. I don't think that necessarily makes it a "bad" trip.
I sometimes wonder, does anyone actually enjoy thinking they're dead? If you do enough mushrooms you probably will think that at some point.
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Boots
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: roquet]
#7454646 - 09/26/07 07:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I learned from my bad trip after the fact, but I wanted to shove a knife into my throat during it.
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Elementium
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: roquet]
#7454688 - 09/26/07 07:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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roquet said: I sometimes wonder, does anyone actually enjoy thinking they're dead? If you do enough mushrooms you probably will think that at some point.
I don't know about actually thinking that one's dead, but...
I can recall a certain trip where, due to high blood pressure, and the apparent vasoconstriction that occurs while tripping on HBWR, I was fairly certain I was dying. My entire body was fairly stiff and my breathing was considerably slowed and shallow. I was also experiencing quite a bit of fatigue and felt the urge to pass out.
Now, I don't know if I would've died or not, but at the time I was pretty convinced that if I went to sleep that'd be it. There in that moment I was fairly comfortable with the thought of letting go. Not sad or anything. Just kinda, "Well, this is a comfortable ending. I'm pleased with where I've been and seen."
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botha


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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: Elementium]
#7454738 - 09/26/07 07:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Norom - isnt that a wonderful experience, to understand that when death comes, its not so horrible afterall and we can handle it
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Elementium
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: botha]
#7454765 - 09/26/07 07:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think so.
I've never really been afraid of death, and since that experience I'm actually comfortable with the idea.
Or at least, I was until becoming acquainted with DMT.
My concept of after-life prior to DMT was something of eternal or extended rest. Now I've the impression that this existence is just one of many that I'm to experience, either sequentially or simultaneously.
It's a bit daunting to think of existence as an ever-persistent progression with no real rest or escape.
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thedudenj
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: Elementium]
#7454811 - 09/26/07 08:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah i have had really no bad trips, cept for maybe once with tussin and once with mushrooms back in high school because i was failing a vocab test that i know i didnt study for, but it was breif. Nothing really can throw me into a bad trip now. I have seen many a horrible things while tripping and gone places in my mind.
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Acyl
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I agree.
Good trips are usually just for the fun of it. Whenever a 'bad trip' arises I know im going to learn a whole lot about myself.. this is why I never try an avoid them and try and embrace the shift in mentality when they do occur. There are no bad trips imo (barring all shitty situation possibilities etc)
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thedudenj
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: Acyl]
#7454915 - 09/26/07 08:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i really dont mind, i have had a good deal of shitty situations arise but i dont let it bother i keep the peaceful mind. to achieve peaceful mind one must accept that all is perfect and if things werent perfect things wouldnt be able to appear not to be perfect in the first place. so fucking what if you car breaks or any thing else or you fall down a cliff. .
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Elementium
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: thedudenj]
#7454926 - 09/26/07 08:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: so fucking what if you car breaks or any thing else or you fall down a cliff. .
lol Well-said.
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: thedudenj]
#7454940 - 09/26/07 08:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with everyone saying bad trips on acid/shrooms are good. However I've done a shitload of hallucinogens and not too long ago I had an extremely bad trip on Amanita muscaria. I ate 28g which is a huge dose. I was watching TV and the man on the TV told me something about ME that seemed to prove time travel. Then I felt like I died. This state is like being aware of the molecules that make up your body and you're slowly losing energy as the molecules go back to their original state. Then something told me I had to kill my dog. I was restrained after a few hits. I love my dog and I don't know what the fuck would make me do that. When the paramedics came, in my mind it was a hallucination and I had to kill the paramedics or I wouldn't live again. Then I was held down by a huge black dude and they restrained me. In the hospital they made me drink charcoal, give me an IV, and put a catheter in my penis... very unpleasant. Anyway, no I did not like it but I learned a lot from it.
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Elementium
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: Aopocetx]
#7454983 - 09/26/07 09:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow, I'd say that qualifies as a bad trip...
Amanita are kinda in a class of their own... Weird shit, they are.
Hope your dog's alright. 
Good vibes to ya.
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thedudenj
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: Aopocetx]
#7454988 - 09/26/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i can imagine, i warn people all the time that they arnt something to be taken lightly i find that sometimes people dont get effects or shitty ones to ward them off.be glad amanita work well for you i suggest you have someone thats good with em the next time you use them and moderate your dose.I know all about that dying feel from em tho its kinda great. Amanita can throw people into a rage, was it that you had the thought to kill or more of an unstoppable rage?
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TripityDooDaDay
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: thedudenj]
#7455032 - 09/26/07 09:21 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hate bad trips when I'm having them but feel I got more out of tripping afterwards than if I hadn't had one. I handle them very well now but I can remember some that were hard to get over at first. Mainly because the trip seemed more real than everyday reality.
For a while, days even, after coming down I would often catch myself wondering when I was going to blink my eyes, someone speak to me etc... and trigger the recognition that this everyday real life really is but a fantasy or dream and I'm back in the bad trip because I never really left.
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I would say the general consencus is that bad trips are just too intense when your down the rabbit hole, but when you come out of it you realise alot.
the first time i did mushrooms i had a very strong .. slightly bad and overpowering trip. completely changed my life from that day.
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mecreateme
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I don't feel that good or bad are proper labels for trips. Trips are medicine.
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: thedudenj]
#7459691 - 09/27/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: Amanita can throw people into a rage, was it that you had the thought to kill or more of an unstoppable rage?
Yes, it was an unstoppable rage. I wouldn't normally attack my dog. He's fine though and seemed happy to see me when I got back so I didn't hurt him too much.
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thedudenj
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: mecreateme]
#7459760 - 09/27/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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mecreateme said: I don't feel that good or bad are proper labels for trips. Trips are medicine.
yeah man your on the right path!
as for apoc. yeah it can happen its due to the NMDA effect its the same as a PCP person in rage. i guess my best advice is to have someone with you when you take it and dont take to much. i constantly tell poeple if you have good amanita, 1-3 caps or 1.5g-8g is all you will ever need
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Edited by thedudenj (09/27/07 11:02 AM)
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moon_glue
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: Elementium]
#7459883 - 09/27/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushrooms are the only drug that give me bad trips. it's a 50/50 shot that it will be bad too. Bad trips make you feel like you're waiting in jail for you time to be up and the whole time youre thinking about everything you reret.
it's stupid, and a total waste of an evening.
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mecreateme
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Re: Anyone Like Bad Trips? [Re: moon_glue]
#7459985 - 09/27/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not if your looking to analyze your life and change things about it.
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