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opensaysme
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Straight Folk
#7453060 - 09/25/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The other day i was tripping with a friend and we were chilling in his dorm with these three girls, but the girls were complete non-drug types. They drink occasionaly but would never do drugs nor understand them. This was so completely annoying to me at the time, they were asking the stupidest most rediculous questions ever. Their immaturity was taking whatever spiritual side this trip had and flushing it down the toilet. Needless to say after about thirty minutes of this i told them they had to leave. They laughed and said "haha thats funny he's tripping out he thinks we should leave," i responded promptly with, "no honestly, get the fuck out..." They gave us a dirty look and left the dorm. Does anyone else get irked when tripping around straight-edge types?
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I don't trip around people like that. Seems like it would be an easy trigger for a bad trip. Remember to choose your setting wisely..a bunch of sober uncool girls that act immature isn't a very good setting
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: enesi]
#7453144 - 09/25/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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If I am unfortunate enough to find myself around people like that I just don't tell anyone I'm high.
Usually no one is the wiser, especially around drunkards.
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i try to trip around the smallest amount of people as i can. it really takes away the spirituality and the "me-ness" that trips have to offer if Im not in a small group.
After a good day trip with a friend of mine (2 hits each) we were both on the come down, and were fairly sobered up and we ran into these girls. They annoyed the hell out of me. My girlfriend was there. She annoys the hell out of me when shes with them cause she dresses like a whore when she goes out with them. I didnt say a word the whole time. I honestly dont know why i didnt leave.
Anyway, the moral is, dont trip around people you get annoyed with. If they annoy you in the least, that little annoyance will be so greatly magnified. Do it around good friends, and by yourself. Thats my policy more or less.
My friend tends to sort of advertise the fact that he trips, and indoctrined a noobie to his place for a "look what we do" sleepover. I kind of saw it as a way to let the general populis to know that he trips on mushrooms and acid, and has intense trips all the time. He paid the price for it because the guy shit on the floor in two different places and vomited all over the bathroom.
Again, the moral is do it around close friends and thats all.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: Drewwyann]
#7453184 - 09/25/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have never tripped with non drug using types. I can only imagine how irritating it could very rapidly become.
When I was at the 40th anniversary of the Summer of Love and very fried on some high-quality LSD, I ran into some friends from school who had never tripped. I said hi to them and asked what was up but made no attempt to explain to them what I was experiencing (didn't even tell them I was tripping). I knew they wouldn't understand, even though they are very friendly to the idea of drug use.
I have a few friends who refuse to use drugs, but I don't think I'd ever get high/trip around them unless it happened accidentally. There's nothing weirder than trying to talk to somebody when you're on "the other side" if they themselves have never been there before.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: enesi]
#7453193 - 09/25/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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No shit.
That can be hard on the soul. You dont want to read those sort of people, or atleast when tripping is not the best time to start.
If some cute girl is acting like she ownes the conversations just because Im tripping she has another thing coming, and that usually means "leave", or follow me into this place(jokingly). Straight edge people can follow you there if they are interested and socially capable. The "social butterflies" are actually really bad at getting deep with anyone.
That sort of shit doesnt make me angry but makes me sort of ill inside.
I want these people to want what I want. Honesty and good conversation. I dont hang out with people unless they have something to offer, and may want something from me at the time. Friendship........... That is not always going to happen in a dorm room with some random "girls" who dont use drugs or do use drugs.
Most people are very immature about the subject of drugs if they are so damn common, and they dont even care about good mannors. They do know how to have their own kind of a paradoxically fun time. Their fun has little to do with human interaction. Its all about slipping on a bananna peal for some people, and when you are tripping youre that guy who they think is vulnerable. A source of "funny". Tripping is not ever funny to me unless with the right people who "move in a fun, and uncontrived way".........or alone.
You dont want to trip with people who treat conversation like its just some funny piece of shit they can discard any day all for the sake of "funny". Atleast not while tripping that is.
They need to move with you. Its kind of like sex.
Those who listen are those who can hold such conversations. Anyone can be real, and step back from the whole bullshit approach. Sober or not.
I sort of dislike people who cant meet me half way. The only people who act that way are just uninformed, or bad at being social.
There is nothing more ridiculous than a really social person who doesnt have a clue how to actually talk to real people. How to be serious. Thats the only part that makes me kinda sick.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: yageman]
#7453222 - 09/25/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for backing me up, fyi we hadnt planned on tripping and we had these chicks around because we thought we were just gonna be drinking and then banging them. Our mistake was made when we decided to trip instead and let them hang with us a little while. Usually when i trip it is alone, or with one or two really close friends. I have been to the occasional party where everyone is tripping but i really do not enjoy this and its not my prefered setting.
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Although sometimes those parties can be wild if its in the right location with the right people, in the words of the dead: "Everybody's dancin' down the local armory With a basement full of dynamite and live artillery. The temperature keeps risin', everybody gittin' high; Come the rockin' stroke of midnite, the place is gonna fly"
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i think its funny how a simple change of substance made you go from wanting to have sex to wanting them to get out. I would think of something clever to say, but im really much too tired at the moment for a whole lot of that "thinking" thing.
How about, maybe you shouldve drink and tripped, that way, you couldve ... and my mind draws a blank. im going to sleep. goodnight shroomery!
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Those who listen are those who can hold such conversations. Anyone can be real, and step back from the whole bullshit approach. Sober or not.
I sort of dislike people who cant meet me half way. The only people who act that way are just uninformed, or bad at being social.
There is nothing more ridiculous than a really social person who doesnt have a clue how to actually talk to real people. How to be serious. Thats the only part that makes me kinda sick.
It pretty easy to have sex with someone who cant meet you half way. Its another thing to develope an adult relationship with them, and I dont mean sexually.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: yageman]
#7453275 - 09/25/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with yageman on that one. I know too many social people that cant carry on a meaningful conversation. The ones that act obnoxious, and then whenever you try to talk to them about anything serious, they keep acting obnoxious? I've got a few of those in my area.
One of them thought that "white widow" was weed laced with cocaine. So i suppose he would fall into the misinformed category. But there are too many people that cant talk on a more serious, humane level.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: Drewwyann]
#7453294 - 09/25/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I actually do have a couple friends who do not use drugs, but are very intelligent people and excellent people to trip with. They are not sucked into the whole "novelty" of a straight person watching someone trip, instead they are interested in interacting with a mind that is going through these amazing experiences. They are the types that will "follow you" into your trip and can make it a great time. These were not the type of people in the room with us that night ha obvi
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: Drewwyann]
#7453326 - 09/25/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is soo funny when you meet somebody new, and they try to poke into your level of substance use. I like to hate on marijuana at first so they get all backed up, then I say.. "But mush, on the other hand. "
I have several good friends who are very against drugs. Although it's frustrating that I can't convey many important experiences to them, I'm thankful to have them. They keep my head on straight.
I don't use anything when I'm around these people. It's purely out of respect. It's like going outside to smoke a cigarette, instead of blowing it around a table of non-smokers.
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aww were they cute cause thats a shame you had em leave.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: Drewwyann]
#7453428 - 09/25/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I could care less about white widow, or any knowledge of drugs no matter what.
I see what you are saying though.
I dont use drugs anymore accept for the occasional drunken high.
I just need people to move with me. The experiences I have been through with psychedelics will stay with me forever. Its not just my history, its a part of me.
You know, as if most people were not so damn simple, and ape-like.
Its really hard to find such people for me. I have found a few. They know how *this perception of people works. They/we dont feel like we are better than anyone else. They* are just not common cookie cutter folks that bore the shit out of me. Even though some of them are so damn smart that they should go back to school and stop swimming in their own stagnance. Not many people like this feel like the world wants them anymore. Thats the worst part about getting lost in your own perfection.
I like all people. but....... There are only so many people I would share my life with. I dont trust people who are like everyone else. Drug users or not.
People just bore the shit out of me. There are some special people out there. Im just looking for a certain type of person. I mean good-friends and good-girlfriends included.
That makes me weird. Being weird doesnt make me unhappy. I am just very selective.
Too selective? Yes definately........... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thats my problem. I need to get with some girl who wears thick rimmed bono-like glasses(bug eyes) at night time, and loves to party hardy. Loves 50 cent, and loves sex......lol
I need a best friend looking for the next party when I just want to be with my significant other.............lol
Thats not what I want.
There are not enough people out there like this. So we settle for what counts. That could be anything depending on the person. Im not perfect.......lol.
Communication just so happens to be a big thing for me. Thats where you find the truth between two people.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: yageman]
#7453439 - 09/25/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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your so wierd in fact your so wierd your like most people. yeah alot of peopel are boring and alot arnt, its just the way of things, the worlds to big to ever see all at once and thats why theres so many people.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: yageman]
#7453442 - 09/25/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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They were very cute, but i stand by my decision. I wasn't about to suffer through 5 hours of tripping while listening to stupid mindless dribble and them acting like we had down syndrome. I've had more meaningful and insightful conversations while black out drunk on xanax bars then these girls have had in their entire life. Not the type of people you want to trip around.
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thedudenj
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lol i hear you, tho i have tripped around all sorts i dont let anyone get to me.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: thedudenj]
#7453533 - 09/25/07 09:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
thedudenj said: lol i hear you, tho i have tripped around all sorts i dont let anyone get to me.
So you know more about this than most people.
Not many let anyone get to them when tripping.
Lots of people just dont want to be there anymore, so they leave.
Im am happy for you though dudenj.
We are not all the same. We can respect just about anyone to some degree, but dont act like you dont know what the fuck anyone here is talking about.
Its not some issue of the spirit as much as it is about communication between people.
If you want to be the shaman of whatever it is you do around people who are already tripping. Reality matters alot....lol
Thats why you treat people accordingly. Thats what a shaman does.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: yageman]
#7453569 - 09/25/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hell ill sit thru horrid things whilst tripping. you cant really say thats how a shaman does anything tho theres different kinds, any who im a medicine man, theres ones that con nurses like the one Fred Alan wolf met at wounded knee thats Sioux who coned em out of money cause she would think he was a hopeless alcohol as and was sorry. theres to many ways to says theres one way, theres also some dark dark medicine men that wish only pain and suffering to others.
but any who. i only live in one reality specially when tripping, my reality doesnt change one bit cause theres only one true reality it just has many facets which people sometimes perceive as separate. after you have the worst trip beyond any thing you could conceive theres a point when things just cant get worse and once you content with that then nothing can bother you and you can always be at peace. but i do know where there coming from tho,vibes. those girls seem as tho they had a very very closed minded veiw and are those who wish to cling to their preception of reality regaurdless of truth. reality doesnt change only your prececption of it and the whole.
one thing is always certain things are real or they wouldnt really be. everything has meaning or there would be none, and if there were none then how do you communicate how do you live. just cause you8 cant see the whole picture at once doesnt mean its not there. you are your birthday thats the fact your in constant sych with the stars,distatant and far as well as everything else "living and non" personally i dont belive in life as most people know it.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: thedudenj]
#7453607 - 09/25/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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honestly anytime ive tripped around types like that i really do just wanna say get the fuck away from me. sometimes people like this are extremely annoying when tripping. others that are straight edge can be a funny addition to the trip as long as they arent fools like the most of them and arent asking dumbass questions as you said. its kinda cool sometimes to express the amazing things shrooms do to these people (when trippin) when its not a matter of annoyances
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: ashfiken]
#7453621 - 09/25/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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its funny when you purpose thoughts, thought while tripping to certain straight edge people and they go wow thats heavey and think you thoughts are so damn amazing and you should write a book thats always fun
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: thedudenj]
#7453624 - 09/25/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hate people that judge drug use for the reason why u dont want someone around or why you are telling them something that they react indifferently about; instantly blame it on your drug use, why you act that way... know what im talking about?
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: Alion]
#7453652 - 09/25/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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not really, your sentence structure is kinda confusing...
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thedudenj
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well my veiw is everyone uses drugs, what matters is how you act about it. drugs dont make people do things people do using drugs as an excuss is lame-
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The dudenj is a mess.
Some people just prefer honest people.
I understood what Alion was saying.
Straight folk are not a problem unless they annoy the shit out of you.
People who use drugs are just as annoying.
Complex folks are the best folks.
I like it when I find such people even if they are common and predictable.
A true character is all i need.
SOme of those straight folk are the best folk. They are as straight as an arrow.
I dont hold grudges. I know what I have experienced and I dont hold grudges.
Thats what it means to be really fucking cool. Just know where you are going and what you want to say, who you are. For those who say nothing most of the time, they will one day. I dont want people to chase after time. Time is getting old.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: yageman]
#7453745 - 09/25/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Please just try to stop saying things that have to do with straight folk.
A small portion of the people out there who use these drugs couldnt show you where the US, Europe, or Iran is on a world map. Fucking china, even.
Just find the right people to trip with.
As long as they are not as dumb as a rock, they are atleast somewhat with it.
Just work with what you have got.
Its hard when you are so young, like me. 24 years old.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: yageman]
#7454464 - 09/26/07 05:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah professors are sometimes great people. and yeah there are far too many druggies,which i hate to say but its so true. and then theres those who do tons of pills or dope and those people tend not to be good people at all tho some are nice but its rare
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: thedudenj]
#7455507 - 09/26/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey, thedudenj, what was that video that you posted? I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
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doors american prayer
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The title of the post should be "ignorant fools" rather than "straight folk". Yageman pretty much covered everything else.
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Re: Straight Folk [Re: EllisDSox]
#7456649 - 09/26/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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He usually does
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Yar
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