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Medicinal Mushroom Research * 1
    #7452320 - 09/25/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research Sticky? [Re: chojin]
    #7452575 - 09/25/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sure. Stuck. Hopefully we can keep things on topic.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research *DELETED* [Re: chojin]
    #7476927 - 10/02/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Morelman]
    #7552335 - 10/23/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Being new to the subject what are the medicinal benefits that stick out like a sore thumb?????????

Like a subject I'm more familiar with is Grass, and aside from many benefits it holds. The one that slaps me in the face is how it treats Nausea.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Minion]
    #7898998 - 01/18/08 08:14 PM (16 years, 14 days ago)

I currently work at a natural foods grocery store. One of my room mates works in the suplement section. I got a good fucking discount through her with New Chapter. So I ordered a bunch of myco medicinals. I'm taking a few right now in the form of their Mental Clarity product. Its predominantly Loin's Mane. Also I'm taking Reishi and Cordyceps. I'm taking 2 caps 3 times daily. My mood has improved exponentially. I feel otherwise great. I know the Reishi is supposed to produce a non-narcotic sense of well being. So I attributed my elevation in spirits to that. Also I have been getting more exercise lately. However I am normally pretty active anyways. Point being that I suffer from rapid cycling manic depression and seem to find more relief from what I'm taking right now. It might just be the cordyceps, it might be the reishi, or the combo. I'm sure the exercise helps. I do think that there is promise in this. Also note that I have never cared for anti-depressants and St John's Wort doesn't do much either.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7902578 - 01/19/08 05:10 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Congrats MindsEye!
You are just happily learning what tons of other people have. We make our own and use about the same dose unless long time eater or diabetic etc.
The reishi energy isn't what is noticeable to me - just that I feel good and feel like doing more.
Keep well hydrated!


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: curenado]
    #7904053 - 01/19/08 11:30 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

You know I have had issues with that but I wasn't sure what it was from. Probably the detox effects I would imagine.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #7909063 - 01/21/08 10:39 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

GREATFUL UN-DEAD:
This genleman was supposed to have been dead already for 9 years. He about was when I met him. Here he is and has been eating g/m mushrooms for 3.5 years among other things we have used for years.
Anyway, here is our clinical evidence for the medical power of mushrooms in the form of Mr. Barry Eubanks, featured in the "Tassili Liberty" article on the psilocybe medicine thread here...(link below in sig...page 5 or 6?)

http://www.youtube.com/user/crystalwoman57

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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Minion]
    #7939854 - 01/27/08 11:43 AM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Hmm I'm currently helping a mushroom expert with her book on the many different species of possibly-medicinal mushrooms. I just finished editing/type-setting a chapter on Alaska mushrooms and was surprised to find that several of the 38 species she described actually were traditionally taken as anti-cancer medicine! There's supposedly also scientific proof for a few of them, although mostly done in Asian countries. I haven't checked the references though since I don't have convenient access to them, so I can't say how accurate or "scientific" these studies are.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: hydes.cigarette]
    #7940664 - 01/27/08 02:50 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Yeah, it sounds like you need to put in a few months of background and reference study. It's not that inconvenient to get access to study listings and relevant info.

All ours is practical and directly patient related, helpful is in the eye of the reader but
1) we had no hospitalizations and no deaths from flu or flu like illness this season (I think we are the only clinic in the area that can say that...) even though epidemic, mortality and child mortality levels were all over national baseline and
2) resistence was up to 4+ percent from less than 1 percent last year. (We saw this in people too) and
3) I had a 5x increase in patients manifesting hemoptosis (lung bleeding) when I actually had none last year.
Simply put, medicinal mushroom blends kept my adult and pedi patients "up out" of the local mess of it and the ones that did get sick got back out of it quickly with less severe symptoms.

This flu season was just practice (get ready...) but it did impact my practice in that I actually did have more than 1 or 2 people get sick and that is new for our patients...our nieghborhood/mountain is locally known for not getting strep or flu owing to the majority use of medicinal mushroom blends.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
    #8449648 - 05/27/08 05:05 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Here is a very comprehensive site on this subject:
www.healing-mushrooms.net


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Anno]
    #8458780 - 05/29/08 07:27 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

That is a great link!:thumbup:
I make my own reishi tea.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: HerbBaker]
    #8462963 - 05/30/08 08:58 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Folks PLEASE BE AWARE (I'm sure ANNO, Roger Rabbit, Whiterasta and the old masters will agree) SOME medicinals may be consumed in larger amounts and frequently (Reishi, Cordys, Turkey Tails etc...) however, some of the medicinals (like the Earth Star and some polypores) are specifically NOT consumed that way and are used in much smaller amounts and/or with much less frequency so it is VERY advisable to read the whole information and learn all you can so that you don't inadvertently cause yourself powerful side effects or even maybe damage by literally "overdosing". There are great medicinal mushrooms that in the right amounts are great and in the wrong amounts are considered neurotoxic with noticeable effects.
ALWAYS READ ALL THE INFORMATION Through especially comments on side effects and dosing, and when in doubt consult, consult, consult - I do very frequently and I have practiced medicine with numerous mushroom species for a decade and am considered the "arch-over" authority in my region (not that hard where I live but still) on integrative and biological medicine so that's my best advice - problems arise through not enough or misinformation.
OK! Hate to clog this thread up with comments but thought that was relative enough.
Best Wishes Always!

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EDIT/Addendum: MUSHROOMS & CHILDREN:heart:

I have a number of pediatric patients, ages 2-10, who use G&M mushrooms in lieu of commercial antibiotics, breathing/allergy medications & etc. I add these notes here owing to the increasing number of folks who are using mycomeds and their children.
Mushrooms typically are a "by weight" dosage though the dose parameters are fairly wide. Children will show side effects quickly from overuse though they are not serious and readily subside with temporary discontinuation and reduced dosing/frequency according to individual and condition. Specifically though and in all cases:
1) Children may manifest hematuria (fresh red blood in the urine) and epistaxis (spontaneous nose bleeds) if they are consuming too much reishi mushroom, and other mushrooms that affect platelet aggregation. Again: This is not serious and is easily fixed by stopping mushrooms for a day or two and then refiguring your dose/frequency. Children respond extremely well to mycomeds (as do some animals like dogs & cats) and don't usually require the frequency of adult humans.
So you don't necessarily need to panic and run for the ER if this happens to you, it's just a little surprising.:)
2) Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) enhances reishi and children who drink a lot of juice and/or take Vit. C supplements may manifest the nosebleed or trace in the urine at lower amounts.
3) A typical dose here for a child is about 1/2 of a "00" capsule (I'll weigh one up at the school and add later) per 50 lbs. 1-2 times per day. If infection present we add about 1/4 gram/day vitamin C because ours are juice drinkers regularly.

These concepts aren't hard to approach with information and gaining a more intimate understanding of your own and your childs health and body tolerances.:thumbup: A great deal of doctor and ER visits can be prevented (in a infection increasing environment...) with simple diet additions and the "domestic administration of home remedies" as it is so called.
Best Always!:psychsplit:


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: curenado]
    #8536514 - 06/18/08 08:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I am a cancer patient and follow this site http://sci.cancerresearchuk.org/labs/med_mush/med_mush.html for research into medicinal mushrooms related to the treatment of cancer.  In the last few years some great research suggest that compounds in mushrooms may lead to the next round of cancer treatment breakthroughs.  As mentioned it is important to research the use and dosage of any compound BEFORE ingesting it. 

If anyone has information on a vendor that sales Ganoderma lucidum spores/syringes please pm me, it is commercially grown and has properties i am very interested in, but i cannot find a single person willing to share, most i contact claim there stuff is isolated, blah blah and won't come off a few spores :frown:


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: exuviae]
    #8536652 - 06/18/08 09:56 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

A shroomery sponsor that sells it:

http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Ganoderma-lucidum--Reishi-Ling-Chi-Mushroom-p-16139.html

Often you can get health stores to order you in the pills, and maybe one of our sponsors caries the pills as well:

http://www.shroomery.org/sponsors.php

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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
    #9598288 - 01/12/09 10:11 PM (15 years, 19 days ago)



I found a shopping bag full two winters ago.  Only used it for the occasional fire start.  But I have three big grapefruit size chunks I plan on grinding up and dosing out as tea.   

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Since the 16th century, there are records of chaga mushroom being used in folk medicine and the botanical medicine of the Eastern European countries as a remedy for cancer, gastritis,ulcers, and tuberculosis of the bones.[citation needed] In 1958, scientific studies in Finland and Russia found Chaga provided an epochal effect in breast cancer, liver cancer,uterine cancer, and gastric cancer, as well as in hypertension and diabetes.[citation needed] Herbalist David Winston maintains that it is the strongest anti-cancer medicinal mushroom.[1] The antimutagenic action of the molecules found in the white part of birch bark where chaga feeds inhibits free-radical oxidation and also induces the production of interferons, which helps induce DNA repair.[citation needed] The substances, contained in white part of birch bark contribute to the decrease of hypoxia and to increase of the stability of organism to the oxygen deficiency, being antihypoxant correcting the metabolism of cells.[citation needed] The anti-cancer properties of betulin or betulinic acid, a chemical isolated from birch trees, is now being studied for use as a chemotherapeutic agent. Chaga contains large amounts of betulinic acid in a form that can be ingested orally, and it also contains the full spectrum of immune-stimulating phytochemicals found in other medicinal mushrooms such as maitake mushroom and shiitake mushroom.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: exuviae]
    #9950631 - 03/11/09 09:38 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

fungiperfecti sells grow bags that are already inoculated and the mycelium is already going throughout it. They also sell bottles of pills with different dosages.  They sell all kinds of myco stuff. They are a little pricey, but I like them. The growbags colonize pretty fast. I have one right now that grew out of the bag through the filter patch and produced shelf style caps with no humidity tent. It was 4 inches wide. Which blew me away.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: matits]
    #10001127 - 03/19/09 01:19 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hi All,

Does anybody know of a grinder type of gadget that can ground up reshii/ganederma lucidum?

Or share how you ground it up for consumption.

The cut reshii stinks very badly when I tried boiling up for tea.

Thanks!:)


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: anthill]
    #10080291 - 03/31/09 01:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Let them dry some if they are real fresh (ours are already so dry here outdoors but your area may be more humid and it's different) Also, make sure the area you are getting them from is clean. I've taken them from a stump in a car lot - a varnished them for show only.
Cut them into chunks and use a coffee grinder. It does not have to be "powder" for consumption or tea purposes, only capsuling.
You don't have to hard boil them by any means. Better to use a simmer and allow plenty of time.
It's actually much messier to extract powder than fine or small-medium grind and unnecessary to get the good stuff.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
    #10312279 - 05/09/09 10:26 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

all the posts are very informative. i'm a newbie with shrooms.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
    #10312353 - 05/09/09 10:53 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

This post is very informative. I'll save the info. Thanks for a great post.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Charlie2]
    #10335044 - 05/13/09 10:02 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

This is a very interesting subject, thank you for the information.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: flyinggeorge]
    #10340369 - 05/14/09 09:22 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

This is a very interesting article on medicinal mushrooms in relation to Asian martial arts, by Paul Stamets (I didn't know he was a black belt!):
http://www.fungi.com/info/articles/martial.html

Contains an overview of Reishi, Maitake, Lion's Mane, Shiitake, and Cordyceps Sinesis


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
    #11098500 - 09/21/09 01:59 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Cordyceps

Improvement of Sperm Production in Subfertile Boars by Cordyceps militaris Supplement.




can this be compare to tong kat ali that help also the improvement of the sperm?


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: bagbee123]
    #11098540 - 09/21/09 02:19 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Intersting, sounds like sumthin I will have 2 look n 2 further.
Thanx 4 sharing! :smile:


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    #11229975 - 10/11/09 10:16 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Same with me still learning about those mushroom :wink:


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    #11229984 - 10/11/09 10:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Same here I'm very noob at it, you all damn good experience with medicinal mushroom :o


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: faiNt]
    #11363448 - 11/01/09 03:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hi, I'm new to all this. I have read some interesting things on the net about the use of psychedelic mushrooms to treat migraines. Are there any specific varieties I should look into?


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: soflogs]
    #11393078 - 11/05/09 06:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Moderately potent to potent strains I think would be best. "Ecuadors or better" because there are a number of active mushrooms that would apply, but you would have to use larger amounts to obtain the same effects. I specifically would not choose the ps. cyanescens first, but that is not from personal experience just experienced selection. Regular cubies are what the articles are about.
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Medicinal Mushroom Research (Agaricus blazei) [Re: curenado]
    #11585098 - 12/04/09 05:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Atlas World USA has a product Agaricus Bio.
Their mushroom strain has been featured in NIH-sponsered research.
This study along with many other Agaricus blazei studies are contained on their homepage which offers a wealth of information regarding this important medicinal mushroom.

http://www.atlasworldusa.com/


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: soflogs]
    #12046841 - 02/17/10 12:42 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

soflogs said:
Hi, I'm new to all this. I have read some interesting things on the net about the use of psychedelic mushrooms to treat migraines. Are there any specific varieties I should look into?




The site www.clusterbusters.com is the best source of info for treating neurovascular headaches (migraine, cluster headache) with psychoactive mushrooms.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Jonat]
    #12049188 - 02/17/10 06:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

You can also check the psilocybe medicine thread here:


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1581935/page/2/fpart/1/vc/1 - The Psilocybe Medicine Thread 

You know Jonat - I realized I hadn't visited the cluster site since I wrote that article about them some time ago - I used your handy link and popped over to say hi and ask how their progress was going. While I'm still waiting for replies I am thinking they are still mostly in a "Had to help ourselves" situation which is pretty bleak, but at least more of them can and while progress hasn't been much the word has certainly gotten around and MANY more are getting help and relief.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: curenado]
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    #12139288 - 03/04/10 12:10 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
    #12266968 - 03/24/10 11:35 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

reishies are good for the soul


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: maxzar100]
    #14827227 - 07/26/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18844328

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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
    #15139480 - 09/26/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

wow!this is the first that i heard that mushrooms can heal. Good discovery.I hope someday we can use this to cure diseases.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: shamceY]
    #15205388 - 10/10/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I fractured my spine almost 2 years ago. Last week it all of a sudden started to hurt again and felt very similar to a few days after I had fractured it. I was gutted and didn't know if I would be able to work again for a long time. It would take me a long time to put on my socks or shoes, which I would have to be sat down to achieve. I had lost a great deal of flexibility in my back and it was very painful.

After a few days I was still the same. later in the evening I consumed a tea made with Psilocybe galandoi sclerotia. And yes i did trip balls, but to my amazement after about 30 minutes my back started to feel like it was healing and although it still felt rather fragile it had regained about 80 percent of its flexibility and hardly any pain! After the trip had worn off my back still felt really good, the next day I was able to get up and go to work, and do some fairly strenuous work all day! to me this felt miraculous, and I have a new respect for fungi in general, not just "active" fungi.

I find myself now wanting to understand and learn more about edible medicinal fungi.

  Just thought I'd share my experience. I'd be interested in hearing if anyone else has had similar experiences with any fungi, especially in relation to helping with back/ spinal problems. Thanks for reading.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Charlie2]
    #15212758 - 10/12/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

GREAT ARTICLE!

I have been using mushroom for anxiety. They make me calm and relaxed, leaving my mood uplifted. I can't imagine not ever having them.
I had very bad anxiety and high stress to the point that my hair was falling out in clumps. I came across some shrooms and it was a 180 a half hour after I ate them. Now I eat them every 2 to 3 days as needed. I like to eat a few grams so I can get a nice trip. However there are times I can't. So I eat just enough to mellow me out.

THANK YOU GOD for the medicine that maintains me!


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: afungitobewith]
    #15472149 - 12/05/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I got some chaga today along with some other medicinal mushrooms the chaga tea is AWESOME! tastes like a mix between black and green tea, can't figure out how to post pictures though, I want to ID one I think might be Ganoderma Resinaceum. This is my first form. I'm surprised there aren't more posts about medicinal mushrooms, it seems (from my reading) there's a large selection of viable and potent medicine to be had.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: curenado]
    #17302150 - 11/29/12 09:37 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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You can also check the psilocybe medicine thread here:


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1581935/page/2/fpart/1/vc/1 - The Psilocybe Medicine Thread 

You know Jonat - I realized I hadn't visited the cluster site since I wrote that article about them some time ago - I used your handy link and popped over to say hi and ask how their progress was going. While I'm still waiting for replies I am thinking they are still mostly in a "Had to help ourselves" situation which is pretty bleak, but at least more of them can and while progress hasn't been much the word has certainly gotten around and MANY more are getting help and relief. 




I realize this is bumping of an old post but I tried the embedded link here and it did not work.  I have migraine headaches and have been treating them with psilocybin mushrooms for the past couple of months.  They have helped quite a bit, a lot more than many traditional pharmaceuticals. 

Thanks to the Shroomery I now have grown enough "medicine" to keep my migraines at bay for quite some time. 

I also frequent the clusterbusters site and as you say things are pretty bleak at least as far as main stream acceptance of this form of treatment for cluster headaches and migraines.  What I find amazing are the stories of cluster headache sufferers who tell of having a date in a calender, some time in the future to commit suicide!  They then discover the clusterbusters web site, their method of busting or treating these headaches and have a complete turn around in terms of their pain level and ultimately in their desire to live!  It's pretty incredible stuff.  It gives me chills simply typing this...


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Headacherelief]
    #17354654 - 12/08/12 10:42 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

This is a good post & well, I hope health comes your way


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    #17384623 - 12/13/12 08:45 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you so much!  My migraines are getting better all the time.  It is amazing how well this natural remedy works.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Sunalie]
    #17460271 - 12/28/12 10:15 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Sunalie said:
GREAT ARTICLE!

I have been using mushroom for anxiety. They make me calm and relaxed, leaving my mood uplifted. I can't imagine not ever having them.
I had very bad anxiety and high stress to the point that my hair was falling out in clumps. I came across some shrooms and it was a 180 a half hour after I ate them. Now I eat them every 2 to 3 days as needed. I like to eat a few grams so I can get a nice trip. However there are times I can't. So I eat just enough to mellow me out.

THANK YOU GOD for the medicine that maintains me!



What are the mushrooms called?


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: GoldenAfternoon]
    #17543249 - 01/13/13 04:28 PM (11 years, 17 days ago)

Hello everyone, my first post in here although i've been stalking the community quite actively for some time now. Our future needs to be fungal for sure! It is most surely the least studied kingdom of life but nonetheless holds a treasure of biodiversity like no other, at a time when we humans are questionning ourselves. Mushroom medicine is a reality fitting in the renewed interest for naturopathy/holistic/natural/integrative medicine. But it doesnt fit in the Pharma world because it isn't patentable (most of them arent). Though I try to be skeptical about conspiracies, I learned the true power of BigPharma at university, and it isn't meant to change anytime near. Take psylocibin for instance. I used to be an advocate of LSD. But psilocybin needs to be in the front of the scene, a molecule easy to crop, with modulable potency and effects. I linked my research in mycology (and psilocybin more specifically) and neuroscience. Well psylocybin and other psychedelics are just what humans need to solve many problems with themselves. Addiction? It is shown now that a man is as much the result of his environment (how he grew) that the result of a particular genetic makeup. That being said addiction (the behavior) is mainly due to past stressors from our childhood (not meaning to sound freudian). And addiction isnt just about cigarrettes and heroin and drugs. Of course heroin is physically addictive, and the physical addiction will show up in any individual. But shopping is an addiction, video games are an addiction... And i deem them very dangerous addictions because they mess with one's life goals and motives. They kinda put you in a vicious circle blinding you from the world. If every addict. Could have access to a psychedelic psychotherapy duely guided by a Competent psychiatrist or psychologist, i think everything would be for the better. No i am not saying everyone should eat mushies and trip balls. I am saying this substance deserve much more respect than being put in the same basket as speed and meth. Do the research, clinical research and from scientific evidence, take the proper decisions.

Same can be said about thc and thousands of substances, but the bottom line stays the same: as long as it is a controlled substance, research cannot take place, scientific evidence cannot be built (you can hardly publish a peer reviewed article about it without risking big while pharma is more free and agile in this realm)... What options are we left with? How can we spread the message? This online community is great! In my 2nd year in biology, i was curious, i looked and i found the right place. But i am quite privileged if i may say so, microbiology, botany and biochemistry are things i love and study. For the regular teenager, the FAQ will be the most useful resource and he may well not look much deeper.
Education? I don't know... But if anyone has suggestions please share them very fast, i can have some effect for the next 6 months or so. I thought about teaching university students mushroom cultivation. Non actives of course. Maybe a fieldtrip or two... Please i insist that you share any suggestion you have. I have a budget and 400 science students and 6 months.
RR I would love exchanging with you. I may be still new to cultivation practically but i gathered some nice insight on the theoretical side. And i'm looking forward to have your opinion on many aspects and experiments on my mind.

I have wanted to order gourmet spawn for a year now but i always postpone due to many things... I now study industry and however i look at it, this is the industry to invest into: a green, profitable, ethical industry that can make so many lives better. Give it agricultural waste as an input, it generates food, medicine, soil, bioremediation, and many more applications to come. Some dudes are replacing plastics with mycelium, or even making building materials. I already worked on bacterial biopesticide development, but stamets' use of entomopathogenic mycelium is revolutionnary! Now that makes many lobbies involved. Petrol, pharma, phytopharma and pesticides, not counting aggribusiness. they will actively discredit anything they can. And i know that despite the stupid bitching that frequently pollute the threads here and there, the community is an enlightened elite who share some common denominators. Maybe not all of us are progreen, may not all of us support cubies, but it feels like mycophilia roots from an ancient knowledge we strive to regain.

I am sorry for the long first post i put up and for straying a bit from the subject, but as for the medicines i have an interesting aspect to be further debated (and i think would be more proper on a new thread): the evolutionnary role of each of the medicines we are talking about:

As stamets said the anti-bacterial compounds we find so often in mushrooms and mycelium are the result of a co-evolution of bacteria and mycetes which led the latter to develop a diversity of molecular weapons that we are able to benefit from.
Other compounds like immunomodulating molecules may (or may not) be a result of pure luck.
But one molecule that is constantly defying explanation is psilocin. Why would an active mushroom strive better than a non-active one in nature? We cannot even seem to figure out if this substance is supposed to act as a predator deterrent or as an incentive to pick the mushroom. But the ubiquity of active mushrooms seems to indicate that psilocin has a role. And why blueing? Blue is not a natural color in life. This is why few foods are added blue food coloring, because blue is usually a warning in nature (or a sexual parade color). Octopus ink, brightly colored snakes and co. are deterrents.

Anyway sorry again if any inconvenience and please if anyone is interested in discussing anything off-topic please pm me to open a new thread or diy, i didnt because i have an exam tomorrow and i've been digging mycology instead the whole day :S so enough slacking, back to my duties.

Pleased to meet you all, and i hope mushrooms will bring you health, in body and mind

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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: ammoniac]
    #17602965 - 01/24/13 02:41 PM (11 years, 6 days ago)

Speed and meth are actually not in the same category as psilocin/psilocybin and containing mushrooms. You can actually get speed and meth from any pharmacy in the US (with the right prescription).

The blue color is a byproduct of evolution not some goal the organism was working toward, and plenty of foods and other non-harmful organisms have blue pigments. Look up anthocyanins.

Click the "Search our forums" link at the upper right and perform this search to learn more about growing mushrooms:




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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: o8u]
    #17941734 - 03/11/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the links!:smile:


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: afungitobewith]
    #18327792 - 05/27/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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I found a shopping bag full two winters ago.  Only used it for the occasional fire start.  But I have three big grapefruit size chunks I plan on grinding up and dosing out as tea.   

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Since the 16th century, there are records of chaga mushroom being used in folk medicine and the botanical medicine of the Eastern European countries as a remedy for cancer, gastritis,ulcers, and tuberculosis of the bones.[citation needed] In 1958, scientific studies in Finland and Russia found Chaga provided an epochal effect in breast cancer, liver cancer,uterine cancer, and gastric cancer, as well as in hypertension and diabetes.[citation needed] Herbalist David Winston maintains that it is the strongest anti-cancer medicinal mushroom.[1] The antimutagenic action of the molecules found in the white part of birch bark where chaga feeds inhibits free-radical oxidation and also induces the production of interferons, which helps induce DNA repair.[citation needed] The substances, contained in white part of birch bark contribute to the decrease of hypoxia and to increase of the stability of organism to the oxygen deficiency, being antihypoxant correcting the metabolism of cells.[citation needed] The anti-cancer properties of betulin or betulinic acid, a chemical isolated from birch trees, is now being studied for use as a chemotherapeutic agent. Chaga contains large amounts of betulinic acid in a form that can be ingested orally, and it also contains the full spectrum of immune-stimulating phytochemicals found in other medicinal mushrooms such as maitake mushroom and shiitake mushroom.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Charlie2]
    #19561749 - 02/13/14 01:57 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Agreed.  I don't know much but this was an interesting read.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
    #19711432 - 03/18/14 12:57 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Hi any chance this is a medicinal mushroom? It grows under pine trees and my herbalist told me that this type of mushrooms often have cancer fighting properties. Also it has beautiful markings in cap like the shiitake mushroom.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Nixis00]
    #19717353 - 03/19/14 06:41 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

It looks like some variety of Boletus, you might want to post in the Mushroom hunting/identification section and have a TI give you a positive ID.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: UnknownPerson]
    #20580407 - 09/17/14 04:53 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

i gather chaga all the time the best if when the leaves are down , easy to see then , chaga is a immune modulate and has over 1000 antioxidants , chaga is also used to fight cancer and radiation from cancer treatments , check out the medicinal properties of chaga i can,t write it all down here but there are alot and if you really want to start feeling better drink chaga tea every day


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: makwa33]
    #20581733 - 09/17/14 10:25 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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i gather chaga all the time the best if when the leaves are down , easy to see then , chaga is a immune modulate and has over 1000 antioxidants , chaga is also used to fight cancer and radiation from cancer treatments , check out the medicinal properties of chaga i can,t write it all down here but there are alot and if you really want to start feeling better drink chaga tea every day




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It's good stuff, for sure :smile:

I found Chaga: King of the Medicinal Mushrooms by David Wolfe a pretty interesting book.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research Sticky? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #22743670 - 01/06/16 11:33 AM (8 years, 24 days ago)

I don't intend to digress but shrooms have helped me with PTSD where nothing else could.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
    #23023217 - 03/19/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Has anyone experienced skin rashes from prolonged consumption of reishi? After taking reishi everyday for a month, I get really bad rashes near the armpits, shins, and calves. Took like 2 months for them to go away.


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    #23023461 - 03/19/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like you are allergic to some component of the reishi. Did you make any other changes during this time period? Change of Laundry detergent, Soap, deodorant, anything like that


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: leschampignons]
    #23029461 - 03/21/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: leschampignons]
    #23054329 - 03/28/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I've taken chaga everyday for 8 months straight and I don't get this kinda reaction, so maybe it is a reishi allergy. It could also be sarcoidosis from what I've been reading. No other changes to my diet or lifestyle.

Some people I've talked to experienced the same skin reaction while on reishi.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: makwa33]
    #23665313 - 09/21/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just chiming in about Chaga / Reishi. I was diagnosed 6 or 7 years ago with RA and was immediately put on dmards after NSAIDS didn't do anything to halt  my inflammation. The methotrexate (a chemo-therapy drug) was working to stop the inflammation but I was getting sick all the time...my resistance was very low and had bacterial infection after bacterial infection.
Anyway, I read on this site about the positive effects of some of the medicinal mushrooms on the immune system and narrowed my choices to reishi and chaga. I was able to find both mushrooms in the wild and made double extractions of each using forresters tek.

I started dosing 2 droppers full of each 3-4 times per day and went off the methotrexate. That was three years ago and I have been in remission pretty much ever since.I still take that same dose religiously every day(an exercise that I think is important). I have had occasional flares mostly during some really stressful times in life but have stayed off the D-MARDS and live a pretty normal life. I still visit a Johns Hopkins rheumatologist every 6 months and get my blood checked every 3 months.....everything has been fine (knock on wood) I keep her informed on my regimen, even though she was very skeptical at first. She is now recommending her patients take a reishi supplement but hasn't embraced the chaga yet. I will see her again next month and keep on seeing her as long as my insurance holds out. These mushrooms have been a God send for me...as has been this site...lol, for the most part:wink:(pub).

If anyone has any sort of autoimmune disorder, I highly recommend these mushrooms... and there are no negative side effects either!
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    #23898752 - 12/06/16 12:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Turkey tail or Trametes versicolor, I make tea with daily, said to help regulate immune system, fight off hpv , cancer of various types, tumor growth, and much much more. Cool thing is it grows freaking EVERYWHERE it seems, some exceptions I'm sure. I have piles of it dried and chopped up to make tea.


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #23910854 - 12/09/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Regarding migraines, do you need to take a preventive maintenance dose or will the fungi help once you feel the migraines coming on?


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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Calendariaazteca]
    #23911659 - 12/09/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

A friend takes a 1/2 gram daily to break the migraine cycle..

The shrooms stops the headache very quickly...


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    #23921757 - 12/13/16 06:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

All I have to say Is one.25 grams of Reishi blew me away.I expected to feel nothing till it built up in my system but 10 minits after injestion I was smiling and could not stop!


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    #23941480 - 12/19/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I always wondered the same thing and might experiment with that


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    #24006687 - 01/13/17 09:55 AM (7 years, 16 days ago)

Tokumitsu Okamura et al., "Characteristics of Wine Produced by Mushroom Fermentation," Bioscience, Biotechnology, and Biochemistry 65/7 (July 2001), pp. 1596-1600.

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Saccharomyces cerevisiae is the main microorganism used in wine brewing, because this microbe has potent ability to produce alcohol dehydrogenase. We have recently discovered that some genera of mushroom produced alcohol dehydrogenase, and made wine by using a mushroom in place of S. cerevisiae. The highest alcohol concentration in this wine was achieved with Pleurotus ostreatus (2.6 M, 12.2%). In the case of Agaricus blazei, the same alcohol concentration (1.7 M, 8%) was produced under both aerobic and anaerobic conditions. This wine produced by A. blazei contained about 0.68% beta-D-glucan, which is known to have a preventive effects against cancer. The wine made by using Flammulina velutipes showed thrombosis-preventing activity, giving a prolonged thrombin clotting time 2.2-fold that of the control. Thus, the wine made by using mushroom seems to be a functional food which can be expected to have preventive effects against cancer and thrombosis.




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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #24007942 - 01/13/17 06:12 PM (7 years, 16 days ago)

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Just chiming in about Chaga / Reishi. I was diagnosed 6 or 7 years ago with RA and was immediately put on dmards after NSAIDS didn't do anything to halt  my inflammation. The methotrexate (a chemo-therapy drug) was working to stop the inflammation but I was getting sick all the time...my resistance was very low and had bacterial infection after bacterial infection.
Anyway, I read on this site about the positive effects of some of the medicinal mushrooms on the immune system and narrowed my choices to reishi and chaga. I was able to find both mushrooms in the wild and made double extractions of each using forresters tek.





Wow, nothing in the world makes me happier than when someone has good results from these amazing mushrooms and was able to do it themselves using my 'tek' instead of paying out the ass what some places charge.  Congratulations for taking the "do it yourself" route, and on your success in general!  Keep spreading the knowledge!  :smile:  :thumbup:


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    #24351822 - 05/26/17 02:41 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you for the information.


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    #24678712 - 10/02/17 05:10 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

So I just harvested some wild Reishi in Ohio in late September. I want to make it into a tea but the mushroom is older. Has the dark maroon cap, turquoise rot, and dull brown spores. Is it still healthy to brew into a tea?


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    #24708758 - 10/14/17 07:03 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Just chiming in about Chaga / Reishi. I was diagnosed 6 or 7 years ago with RA and was immediately put on dmards after NSAIDS didn't do anything to halt  my inflammation. The methotrexate (a chemo-therapy drug) was working to stop the inflammation but I was getting sick all the time...my

I started dosing 2 droppers full of each 3-4 times per day and went off the methotrexate. :





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Holy crap!

I was diagnosed w psoriatic arthritis a few years ago. Looking back at my life I have had this damn disease much of my life and didn't realize it. Psoriatic arthritis has ended my physical career and I am bummed. I hate being on methotrexate! Much of the time the stuff makes me feel like I am motion sick and I am now unable to spend any sort of time in the sunlight. My whole life has changed.....

But I'm not a wallow in my sorrow kind of dude, I'm the get er done type so I have been here on the shroomery educating myself with the intentions of eventually opening up a myco restoration company or a myco medicinal company. Maybe both who knows.

Thank you for your testimony on your experience getting off of methotrexate.
Right now I'm on methotrexate + a whole bunch of drugs to deal with side affects along with a few other antirheumatic drugs.

Hoping to cut back on all these drugs since I began my gentler life.
With this info I may be cutting back on even more than I thought!

Again THANK YOU!
...Gonna show this to my Rheumy


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