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frustrated matsutake buyer video
    #7451218 - 09/25/07 10:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

kind of whiny rant.....but i thought it was interesting how the economical climate is on wild edibles in the pnw tight now.



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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: greys]
    #7452595 - 09/25/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Hopefully, it keeps the commercial pickers out of the forests. So many of them rip out everything they find, destroying the beds. I've caught them with rakes, ruining the moss to look for pins.
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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7454468 - 09/26/07 05:21 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7464335 - 09/28/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I second that. Seen the same thing.


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: greys]
    #7468695 - 09/29/07 10:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Such disrespect someone who's interest in fungi is only for economical reasons should have no place in the forest. I wonder why there is a drop in supply for the Matsutake when assholes like this run around destroying the mycelium of Matsutake. When he threw down that Matsutake it made me wish that spends the rest of his life this unhappy.


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: LaineRB]
    #7469101 - 09/30/07 03:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I agree, I mean, how selfish can you be? Why not give away those mushrooms to someone who could have used them? He acts like it's all about him. He never made it past the Physiological level on Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

Here's an idea? Pick a mushroom that is going for some cash and learn to grow them yourself.


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: mushymart]
    #7469264 - 09/30/07 07:12 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

what is this retard doing there!?!?!?


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: ohmatic]
    #7469273 - 09/30/07 07:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hes made more.....updates to the original video



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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: greys]
    #7469857 - 09/30/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This guy could have made $60.000 A season maybe even $100.000 and a picker $200.00 A day maybe $1.000 A day.
Not Any more. Is it corporate GREED ?. isn't is why we don't like Wall-Mart ?

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assholes like this run around destroying the mycelium



Logging destroys more mushroom mycelium. I have seen forests that produce millions in mushrooms. That get logged for 1/2 of what the mycelium produces.

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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: bodynotdead]
    #7472610 - 10/01/07 12:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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This guy could have made $60.000 A season maybe even $100.000 and a picker $200.00 A day maybe $1.000 A day.
Not Any more. Is it corporate GREED ?. isn't is why we don't like Wall-Mart ?





care to explain why not anymore ? i seem to have missed that being pissed at hime trampling over the mushrooms.


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: ohmatic]
    #7472670 - 10/01/07 01:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

sounded like he was pissed at japan or w/e for dropping their prices to 30 cents.

im guessing japan found a way to grow them mushrooms indoors, which would be the only reason a mushrooms price would drop to 30 cents.

im wondering if they found a new place to send their lead.


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7474176 - 10/01/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

He explained why in the later video's. It was because the first flush that came this year was infested with flies/poor crop. The Japanese got wind of this, and didn't want to pay much for the mushrooms. The second flush came around and they were beautiful mushrooms yet the Japanese still didn't want to pay much for them. Also - the middlemen decided to make more money by paying pickers less because they could get away with it.

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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #7478209 - 10/02/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

heres a newspaper article from the town the guy in the video lives in.

http://www.terracedaily.ca/cgi-bin/show_articles.cgi?TOPIC=0&ID=1219&ISTART=0&NSHOW=30&S=1


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: greys]
    #7478300 - 10/02/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Anything more than $30-45/lb retail is absolutely ridiculous. That's how much he wants pickers to get!
Too much incentive for people to go out and fuck up some good shroom habitat. Too much incentive to rip up moss and move on to the next patch before replacing the moss back where they found it.

Yes greed is definitely a problem here and it definitely doesn't exist on only one side of the fence.


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: YidakiMan]
    #7478346 - 10/02/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I didnt know all that about the cartel, the article is a good read. I agree the price is a bit ridicules and to expect that all the time isnt very realistic, but I can also see the fellow's point about the price dropping to $1 a lb when they are still selling for $100 a lb in japan.

Seems like a lot of greed on the part of the Cartel as well.

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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: bodynotdead]
    #7478436 - 10/02/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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bodynotdead said:Logging destroys more mushroom mycelium. I have seen forests that produce millions in mushrooms. That get logged for 1/2 of what the mycelium produces.




Yes I agree that it does however I have ment plenty of loggers that just so happen to be commericial pickers as well. Big suprise that both groups seek to exploit and in the end destroy the environment. Regardless of whether there are greater evils out there his attitude in regards to mushrooms is without excuse lower prices or not. I would consider his actions akin to buffalo hunters in the plains in the 1800s.


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: Culland]
    #7478470 - 10/02/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Never doubt that a small group of dedicated people
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I have ment plenty of loggers that just so happen to be commericial pickers as well. Big suprise that both groups seek to exploit and in the end destroy the environment.




in the U.S.A the government decides what gets logged not the logger


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: bodynotdead]
    #7478734 - 10/02/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Okay so the federal government decides such regulations but in your mind therefore that makes it okay?


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: LaineRB]
    #7479115 - 10/02/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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bodynotdead said:Logging destroys more mushroom mycelium. I have seen forests that produce millions in mushrooms. That get logged for 1/2 of what the mycelium produces.



I have ment plenty of loggers that just so happen to be commericial pickers as well.




I don't think so this hard work(Chain Saws)carrying, making adjustments, repairing, fueling, cleaning, safety equipment.And keep informed on all actions maintaing prompt communications on safety. A logger could find a mushroom for him self. But not have the time for what would take to make $2.00 for mushrooms.


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: bodynotdead]
    #7479163 - 10/02/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think theirs much forest left to ruin so I guess I don't see the big deal anymore.

Pretty much every tree you see these days is man made.


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7479505 - 10/03/07 01:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If there is truly a greater value to the local economy to harvest those mushrooms than to cut down the trees, you can start an appeal process that will re-evaluate the need to clearcut. I do not know much about the process except what is written here. Trees are almost always cut down only when they start to appreciate slower than another investment for that land. If you factor in the value of the annual mushroom harvest with appreciation(rate of $$ growth) of older trees, it could

Lots of other good information there as well. Pretty elaborate data on how to treat your matsu patch. You can look under the moss to find those #1s, just put it back where you found it.

I don't know anything about the market forces in Japan, but I dare say, that the market will not bear such a huge profit margin, if it even exists, for very long at all.


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7481038 - 10/03/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think theirs much forest left to ruin so I guess I don't see the big deal anymore.

Pretty much every tree you see these days is man made.




Perhaps where you are from this is the case but in my state roughly 3/4 of the forest is still old growth. Even if there are few natural forests where you are from it should be top priority to keep them intact. With how inefficient wood pulp is anyway it is time to look to other sources for our needs of paper produts.


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: LaineRB]
    #7481395 - 10/03/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think theirs much forest left to ruin so I guess I don't see the big deal anymore.

Pretty much every tree you see these days is man made.




Even if there are few natural forests where you are from it should be top priority to keep them intact.






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    #7481880 - 10/03/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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With how inefficient wood pulp is anyway




Believe it or not, thats part of the problem. Resinous pines are very inefficient for making paper. If a resinous tree grows too long - its almost worthless.

So in these forests with resinous trees, the appreciation has reached 0 or even negative, it is losing value year to year. Foresters look at opportunity cost when reaching a land management decision. You may remember opportunity cost from high school or college economics classes. The cost of keeping a non-appreciating asset is not zero. It is the amount of money you lost by not picking something that does gain value. If the timber is losing value or gaining value slower than a new regenerated crop, then it needs to be regenerated. Thats where the fungus comes in. Maybe the trees aren't appreciating at all, but the acreage in question pumps $50,000 a year into the local economy. Foresters are really only concerned about fungi that damage their goods, parasitic and saprophytic fungi. It's your job to inform them about the $50,000 opportunity cost to the local economy.

Especially with the new wave of hybrid poplars on the market. Nowadays, when you do a search for Lombardy poplar, you find more websites urging you NOT to buy. The new hybrid poplars produce 10tons of biomass an acre every ten years. They reach 100 feet in only 14 years.

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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7490484 - 10/06/07 04:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i don't understand,

is he basically saying becuase of corporate farming shroom prices have dropped so much they are worthless?


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    #7490496 - 10/06/07 05:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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i don't understand,

is he basically saying becuase of corporate farming shroom prices have dropped so much they are worthless?





he said in one of the episodes that early in the season some wormy mushrooms graded as number ones found their way back to japan from canada. The japanese freaked and set a low price. There is a glut of perfect mushrooms right now...and the Japanese and the buyers in british columbia are holding everything at the low price yet still selling matsutake at regular market prices on their end of the deal.


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: greys]
    #7490498 - 10/06/07 05:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

oh thats harsh, here in england i've never even seen mushrooms like that for sale, they look super tasty.

perhaps england and the U.K is a gap in the market?


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: greys]
    #7571250 - 10/28/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I think JCs Shroom Shack is getting a bad wrap from yous. He's protesting what he feels is market manipulation by a pair of Joe's who have a monopoly on the exportation, apparently. Prices used to be great and this supported communities of interesting individuals who lived in the wilds during the fall and picked the mushrooms. Primarily pines were picked but buyers in towns like Terrace, B.C. would pay for other mushrooms as well such as King Boletes. I've never seen evidence of raking, and the pickers I know are as a standard, environmentally conscious. JC is just calling for more of the big money to get passed down to the workers, the pickers in the bush. Prices in NW BC ranged from 0.50-10.00$ a pound this fall, steadily increasing from sept to midoctober. Generally prices were depressed, and I think the increase in price may be associated with the protest. IF it was, then hell ya. At 50 cents a pound for class A's, there are no pickers in the bush, the industry disapprears. As well, these regions need industries that increase the value of their forests above just pulp/paper and 2x4's.

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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: greys]
    #7571388 - 10/28/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Those guys are a bunch of tweekerz.


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: thescientist]
    #7571399 - 10/28/07 10:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

But i hear you, hell I could give them double what they were getting at least! I could probably hustle 20 a pound at 20 pounds a week to one place. They should send me a pm.


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: thescientist]
    #7571424 - 10/28/07 11:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The pickers in the bush should learn how to network and sell what they pick. Instead of selling in bulk. They think that they can just demand market price for huge quantities. Maybe not i don't know. They should spend three days out in the woods, and spend 4 days going strait to the restaurants. Selling them for a better price. If the bush pickers want more, they need to do more then pick in the bush.


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    #7572580 - 10/29/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The restaurants are a 1000km from where the mushrooms are picked. Thats just to get them to Vancouver restaurants. The real money is in exporting them to Japan where they go for, hundreds per pound. They are literally auctioned off by-the-mushroom. So, getting the mushrooms to market requires LEASING cargo space from an airline.....this has been monopolized by the Joe's (much speculation here). Pickers can bring home a hundred pounds of pines in a day, these are not for local or regional consumption. This is not a situation where you can unload them through a tiny network of likeminded buddies. These are for export, period.

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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: thescientist]
    #7572686 - 10/29/07 11:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: Cheezit]
    #7574200 - 10/29/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Dumb question- Where should I order them from?

I would love to see first hand what they taste like...

Does anyone have a good souce that can ship fresh to central USA?


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: TheChosenOne]
    #7575516 - 10/30/07 06:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

there is a special way to eat a matsutake too....you inhale just as you bring it to your mouth...then bite and chew. they have a spicy cinnamon aroma thats lost if you just gobble them down.
i recently found and consumed some fresh ones near olympia washington.
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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7577168 - 10/30/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps that dude needs to go into a differnt type of buisness. Mushrooms seems to be stressing him out. Just move on man. Be happy:grin:


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: jabberlisa]
    #7599839 - 11/05/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I have never seen any mushroom in the south other than enoki , shitake
oyster, portobello and baby porto .. and once morels which I should have bought .. but they were probably cultivated anyway ..
it would be nice to see more like matsutake they look good ..


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: greys]
    #7603250 - 11/06/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That is one pissed of dude.


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #7605275 - 11/06/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

i understand where he's coming from...

but why take it out on the poor, defenceless shrooms?!

seriously though, talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: faceofbear]
    #7605900 - 11/07/07 08:20 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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$1/lb is better than nothing.




No, it isn't. That would be surrender. It allows the importers to make huge profits by selling them for $300 per pound, when they only pay $1. If he could get the other growers to also boycott the cartel, they would be forced to meet their terms, not the other way around. These mushrooms don't fruit all year. If the importers miss the window to get their product, they're screwed. He did the right thing. I just hope he wasn't the only one.
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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7605997 - 11/07/07 08:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I would have offered them up for a chefs charity fundraiser or something and tried to make lemonade from lemons. Instead he just destroyed them.


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: greys]
    #7606009 - 11/07/07 09:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Thats why i thought the dudes were tweeker idiots at first....

I make more money then they do selling oysters to the local restaurants.

if the markets broken, either fix it, or create a new one.

Every good chef in America would probably gladly take these mushrooms. They would never spend 300, But we could charge over 10 probably.
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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7606076 - 11/07/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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$1/lb is better than nothing.




No, it isn't. That would be surrender. It allows the importers to make huge profits by selling them for $300 per pound, when they only pay $1. If he could get the other growers to also boycott the cartel, they would be forced to meet their terms, not the other way around. These mushrooms don't fruit all year. If the importers miss the window to get their product, they're screwed. He did the right thing. I just hope he wasn't the only one.
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i understand the logic, but i hate the waste.

i dunno...i think it would have been wiser to boycott the cartel and (like greysRDbest was saying), use them in some other capacity.
for example, i can't believe no-one in canada wants to eat matsutakes. why not organize a matsutake festival for the locals?
one could sell at least some.

look, i really do support these guys. they're trying to make a living, and obviously fatter cats than they are fucking with them.
but don't rape the forests and then stomp on their produce. that's human arrogance.


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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: faceofbear]
    #7606114 - 11/07/07 09:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

No it isn't. That video became wildly popular in Japan, and was shown repeatedly on broadcast TV. It led to changes and now they get a decent price for their product. They did a good job. Somebody has to stand up to the money grubbing fucks.

A far greater danger as far as 'raping' the forest goes is the lumber companies clear cutting practice which wipes out tens of thousands of species so they can collect one species(trees).
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    #7606335 - 11/07/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't know anything about the market forces in Japan, but I dare say, that the market will not bear such a huge profit margin, if it even exists, for very long at all.




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    #7607538 - 11/07/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Personally I think that the Japanese have been getting ripped hardcore for many years from the Matsutake and Maitake they buy from the PNW market. Simply Outrageous Prices, in the past at least. Outrageous, but yet the Japanese and other Asian countries were paying it..

So in the instance of these videos, it all boils down to the first flush they harvested and sold to the Japanese were full of maggots by the time they arrived, rendering them discusting and useless. Here the Japanese were paying top dollar for shrooms that turned out to be sh.t, how can you blame them?

If I bought supposed premium Pines from a store and when I got home found they had maggots in them, I would bring them back and demand a refund. And that is exactly what the Japs did. They stuck it to um. And it REALLY pissed this particular guy off!:)

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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: greys]
    #7610515 - 11/08/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i understand the logic, but i hate the waste.

i dunno...i think it would have been wiser to boycott the cartel and (like greysRDbest was saying), use them in some other capacity.
for example, i can't believe no-one in canada wants to eat matsutakes. why not organize a matsutake festival for the locals?
one could sell at least some.

look, i really do support these guys. they're trying to make a living, and obviously fatter cats than they are fucking with them.
but don't rape the forests and then stomp on their produce. that's human arrogance.





Ditto.
It wouldn't have been giving in if he sold the mushrooms locally, or to us Americans that love gourmet food. In my area we have "Farmers Markets" where anyone can tailgate and sell their produce locally at retail prices. I don't know if he has those in Canada, but it would have been the perfect solution for him, especially if he sought out a weathy neighborhood with a F.M.

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A far greater danger as far as 'raping' the forest goes is the lumber companies clear cutting practice which wipes out tens of thousands of species so they can collect one species(trees).
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An interesting coincidence is that the guy that works at the lumber yard told me that the biggest importers of American hard wood is Japan. Sorry to get off topic, but maybe we are exporting too many unfinished goods? In addition to stopping clear cutting, what if we were only allowed to export finished wood products? people going to work again, and furniture made in the USA, now there's a thought!

I live in an area where clear cutting happens all the time, and it is such a wasteful practice. Clear cutting is wrong in the first place, and then they do it wrong, which adds insult to injury. A lot of the wood is just left to lay there drying in the open, and not even of any benefit to the wood loving mushrooms. It supposedly costs too much to chip it on sight, so that it could at least replenish the soil.


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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: Mycoangler]
    #7883827 - 01/15/08 02:55 PM (16 years, 17 days ago)

good post
the guy at least tried to do something, if i was up there i would have asked pickers to not even pick that crop anymore, maybe when none r coming in, the buyers will be forced to raise prices, 4$ a lb. isnt even worth someones time anyway, i could just picture the japs. faces when they saw the shrooms being stomped on "oooh crazy white man...noooo gooood..."

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