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greys
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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7605997 - 11/07/07 08:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would have offered them up for a chefs charity fundraiser or something and tried to make lemonade from lemons. Instead he just destroyed them.
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Cheezit
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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: greys]
#7606009 - 11/07/07 09:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats why i thought the dudes were tweeker idiots at first....
I make more money then they do selling oysters to the local restaurants.
if the markets broken, either fix it, or create a new one.
Every good chef in America would probably gladly take these mushrooms. They would never spend 300, But we could charge over 10 probably. Probably hopefully more.
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faceofbear
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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7606076 - 11/07/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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$1/lb is better than nothing.
No, it isn't. That would be surrender. It allows the importers to make huge profits by selling them for $300 per pound, when they only pay $1. If he could get the other growers to also boycott the cartel, they would be forced to meet their terms, not the other way around. These mushrooms don't fruit all year. If the importers miss the window to get their product, they're screwed. He did the right thing. I just hope he wasn't the only one. RR
i understand the logic, but i hate the waste.
i dunno...i think it would have been wiser to boycott the cartel and (like greysRDbest was saying), use them in some other capacity. for example, i can't believe no-one in canada wants to eat matsutakes. why not organize a matsutake festival for the locals? one could sell at least some.
look, i really do support these guys. they're trying to make a living, and obviously fatter cats than they are fucking with them. but don't rape the forests and then stomp on their produce. that's human arrogance.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: frustrated matsutake buyer video [Re: faceofbear]
#7606114 - 11/07/07 09:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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No it isn't. That video became wildly popular in Japan, and was shown repeatedly on broadcast TV. It led to changes and now they get a decent price for their product. They did a good job. Somebody has to stand up to the money grubbing fucks.
A far greater danger as far as 'raping' the forest goes is the lumber companies clear cutting practice which wipes out tens of thousands of species so they can collect one species(trees). RR
-------------------- Download Let's Grow Mushrooms semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat "I've never had a failed experiment. I've only discovered 10,000 methods which do not work." Thomas Edison
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YidakiMan
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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: YidakiMan]
#7606335 - 11/07/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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YidakiMan said: I don't know anything about the market forces in Japan, but I dare say, that the market will not bear such a huge profit margin, if it even exists, for very long at all.
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GGreatOne234
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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: YidakiMan]
#7607538 - 11/07/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Personally I think that the Japanese have been getting ripped hardcore for many years from the Matsutake and Maitake they buy from the PNW market. Simply Outrageous Prices, in the past at least. Outrageous, but yet the Japanese and other Asian countries were paying it..
So in the instance of these videos, it all boils down to the first flush they harvested and sold to the Japanese were full of maggots by the time they arrived, rendering them discusting and useless. Here the Japanese were paying top dollar for shrooms that turned out to be sh.t, how can you blame them?
If I bought supposed premium Pines from a store and when I got home found they had maggots in them, I would bring them back and demand a refund. And that is exactly what the Japs did. They stuck it to um. And it REALLY pissed this particular guy off!:)
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Mycoangler
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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: greys]
#7610515 - 11/08/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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i understand the logic, but i hate the waste.
i dunno...i think it would have been wiser to boycott the cartel and (like greysRDbest was saying), use them in some other capacity. for example, i can't believe no-one in canada wants to eat matsutakes. why not organize a matsutake festival for the locals? one could sell at least some.
look, i really do support these guys. they're trying to make a living, and obviously fatter cats than they are fucking with them. but don't rape the forests and then stomp on their produce. that's human arrogance.
Ditto. It wouldn't have been giving in if he sold the mushrooms locally, or to us Americans that love gourmet food. In my area we have "Farmers Markets" where anyone can tailgate and sell their produce locally at retail prices. I don't know if he has those in Canada, but it would have been the perfect solution for him, especially if he sought out a weathy neighborhood with a F.M.
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A far greater danger as far as 'raping' the forest goes is the lumber companies clear cutting practice which wipes out tens of thousands of species so they can collect one species(trees). RR
An interesting coincidence is that the guy that works at the lumber yard told me that the biggest importers of American hard wood is Japan. Sorry to get off topic, but maybe we are exporting too many unfinished goods? In addition to stopping clear cutting, what if we were only allowed to export finished wood products? people going to work again, and furniture made in the USA, now there's a thought!
I live in an area where clear cutting happens all the time, and it is such a wasteful practice. Clear cutting is wrong in the first place, and then they do it wrong, which adds insult to injury. A lot of the wood is just left to lay there drying in the open, and not even of any benefit to the wood loving mushrooms. It supposedly costs too much to chip it on sight, so that it could at least replenish the soil.
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Re: frustrated mistake buyer video [Re: Mycoangler]
#7883827 - 01/15/08 02:55 PM (16 years, 17 days ago) |
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good post the guy at least tried to do something, if i was up there i would have asked pickers to not even pick that crop anymore, maybe when none r coming in, the buyers will be forced to raise prices, 4$ a lb. isnt even worth someones time anyway, i could just picture the japs. faces when they saw the shrooms being stomped on "oooh crazy white man...noooo gooood..."
http://matsiman.com/ the owner of this site could use a little help if anyone could spare anything, kittens need kitten food
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