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opensaysme
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: g00ru]
#7552399 - 10/23/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea I'm normally a very peaceful person, but i happened to be in a crappy mood at the time, and i really dislike fecaldildo. I agree that i could've gotten my point across better without being so harsh.
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: opensaysme]
#7552980 - 10/23/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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How many people call actual hash resin? How often do people call resin from a pipe hash?
How often do people not understand the difference between smoke tar and hash?
Not very often........... Its a non issue and in my opinion, a really funny question because most people who know weed know the answer. Most people here know weed very well, and for a well informed member to ask a dumb question that he already knows the answer to is funny. It doesnt piss me off though.
Residue a more accurate term for resin? yes, it is.
Redidue from smoking is derived from the plant matter so its basically a really shitty resin. Not a typical resin by definition.
Which do you prefer? "wanna smoke some residue" "wanna smoke some resin"
I like the later because its takes less time to say, and its a non issue and a lame source of thc's(and works like a charm). Gets me pretty damn high since I dont often use hallucinogens or weed these days.
Its typical slang, and the person who posted this question knows that.
Back in the day....lol, lots of people didnt know what the word nigger meant. People quickly learned the meaning, but it had different meanings and conotations toward the friend, or "victom". Slang works in strange ways.
I dont know how anyone can care about this question. In all honesty, I dont care about the word nigger either. So that should help to illustrate where im coming from.
So as I said previously.......... "who cares". The word resin doesnt matter much, and neither should the word nigger, just because of the variety of ways the word is used.
People are always looking for the lamest reasons to get upset, or even simply help to change the meaning of a word that made its self over time. Shit thats spelled the same but needs to be used in context. Thats why I dont give a shit.
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: yageman]
#7553060 - 10/23/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you hit the nail on the head, in that the exact definition of the terminology is probably not as important as what is meant.
So, I think the veiled question being asked originally wasn't concerned with so much "Is residue the proper term for resin?" but, "Why the hell are people smoking tar balls and calling it resin?"
In other words, trying to make something sound better than it actually is.
So, why are so many people smoking tar? This is a good question. Rather than get into an elitism debate, I blame the current state of legality. I guarantee if weed was legal and available, to the degree that beer is, that the large majority of potheads would not be smoking their 'resin'. On the counter to this, the reason then does devolve into desperation, which is what other smokers dislike. Hard to prove to the general public that pot is not addictive when you have heads scraping tar out of pipes and smoking that for a fix. Gotta love reality
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: AnotherDimension]
#7553273 - 10/23/07 11:19 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you prefer "restroom", "washroom", "Toilet", "outhouse", or "the shitter".
By the way, the tar is just slightly altered and condensed pot smoke.
How altered I dont know(not much people). Thats up to you all to find out.
I smoke about once a week. I smoke resin once a week if there are no buds around. Why?
Its not because im addicted to some drug I hardly ever use anymore. Its because it gets me high, once a week or more if the weed aint around/cheap for a short moment in time/friends who smoke daily dont have any.
Smoking resin or residue doesnt say anything about you, or addiction. Its all circumstancial.
A nice ball of pot smoke residue gets people high. There is nothing gross about it aside from the smoked out taste. Almost in the same way that there is nothing gross about chewing and swallowing 50 grams of fresh cubes.
I dont look at either drug as a party favor. Small and large doses are very nice for some people.
Ya its tar, and its smoke, and its smokable smoke. So who gives a shit?
If this stuff was legal a greater percentage of people would not smoke resin. Thats because they could grow weed in their homes and back yards.
It has nothing to do with feinding, atleast for me that is. There will always be a connection between weed smoke and the user. Its a rather pathetic psychological addiction aside from psychosomatic effects.
People typically smoke resin simply to get high. If you are confused about how silly it is to be smoking tar then just realize that that is just fuggin pot smoke that you are smoking.
There are just heavier and more sticky goods amoung the thc. More useless material. The thc is there, and ready to smoke If you are not a ninny who smokes good weed every day and thinks resin is for feinds and the more simple primates.
And thats exactly how I feel about it it.
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: yageman]
#7553354 - 10/23/07 11:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You want a rhetorical debate? I thought we were on the same page? But okay?
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Do you prefer "restroom", "washroom", "Toilet", "outhouse", or "the shitter".
If you are questioning along the earlier terms then it doesn't matter. All terms refer to the same thing. My point was that terminology wasn't the issue. Which I think you understand given your next point.
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By the way, the tar is just slightly altered and condensed pot smoke.
Quite untrue. Tar is greatly altered pot 'smoke'. It is mostly carbon (the same as ash), with a lot of matter biological in origin that cannot be broken down biologically (similar to feces), with a few highly altered forms of the original alkaloids (that have been greatly altered by intense levels of heat).
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How altered I dont know(not much people). Thats up to you all to find out.
I disagree, I think it is very altered.
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I smoke about once a week. I smoke resin once a week if there are no buds around.
This is my point exactly. *If there are no buds around.* If there were buds around, would you still smoke that? I mean the not so great rap artists even stress the point to *make sure your pipe's clean*. (That means no *residue* in it.)
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Its not because im addicted to some drug I hardly ever use anymore. Its because it gets me high, once a week or more if the weed aint around/cheap for a short moment in time/friends who smoke daily dont have any.
And that is your choice. I do notice that the *short moment* is key here, I'm guessing much shorter than actual weed would provide.
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Smoking resin or residue doesnt say anything about you, or addiction. Its all circumstancial.
I disagree. As my example above, someone who wants nicotine going through trash for the smallest amount of tobacco available does show addiction. They too could claim it is entirely circumstantial.
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A nice ball of pot smoke residue gets people high.
So does freon.
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There is nothing gross about it aside from the smoked out taste. Almost in the same way that there is nothing gross about chewing and swallowing 50 grams of fresh cubes.
No, as someone else before said, this is the same as gathering all the alcohol spilled on the floor in a bar before closing and drinking it. It is gross, and you cannot compare it to consuming a fresh material.
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Ya its tar, and its smoke, and its smokable smoke. So who gives a shit?
Lots of people. So is all beer equal? Are all drugs equal? The answer is no. I can freaking hold my breath if I want to get light-headed and high. What is your point? If you want to smoke smoke, you don\\\'t need any specific substance.
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If this stuff was legal a greater percentage of people would not smoke resin. Thats because they could grow weed in their homes and back yards.
Right, that\\\'d be awesome. My point is that people turn to *residue* because of lack of real weed.
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It has nothing to do with feinding, atleast for me that is. There will always be a connection between weed smoke and the user. Its a rather pathetic psychological addiction aside from psychosomatic effects.
Psychological/physical look the same to an outsider. I understand how different they are to the person going through it. From an outside perspective, behavior is more important than the internal drive.
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People typically smoke resin simply to get high. If you are confused about how silly it is to be smoking tar then just realize that that is just fuggin pot smoke that you are smoking.
This is just not true. If you are trying to say that smoke is just bad for you, then there are other ways to ingest weed. If you are trying to say that tar equals pot smoke, you are just mistaken.
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There are just heavier and more sticky goods amoung the thc. More useless material. The thc is there, and ready to smoke If you are not a ninny who smokes good weed every day and thinks resin is for feinds and the more simple primates.
The difference is much greater than you imply. THC has a specific effect, which includes duration, which is noticably absent from tar. It has nothing to do with anybody\\\'s worth or some elitist argument (which is what I said trying to avoid this defensive posturing). We need someone to do a thorough chemical analysis and prove that there is only a miniscule amount of THC to be found in the tar.
And thats exactly how I feel about it it.
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: AnotherDimension]
#7553693 - 10/24/07 04:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're a moron.
You would have people believe that anyone who smokes "pipe residue" is doing it because they're fiending for a high??
But you would think nothing of it if people smoked just as much but instead were smoking legalized weed. Your logic is flawed....
People smoke the residue because its around and it gets you high, some people like to get high. Say you normally smoke twice a week, you've been out of bud for a week or two but your pipe is filled with residue. If you smoke it that doesn't make you a fiend, you're simply using the tools given to you to get high.
Im also really not sure what you're talking about with the way shorter duration from smoking residue. Your implying that when people smoke residue its not THC that gets them high, but other chemicals byproducts from the smoked material.
Really? Thats odd because when i smoke it i'm high for the same amount of time, with the same feeling as a normal smoke sesh. Complete with red eyes, the munchies, and a strong desire to listen to some jams.
I have never met anyone that called it hash. Granted, given the choice anyone would smoke regular straight up weed. No argument there. But you can't bash people for getting high when they got the chance to and theres nothing else around.
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: opensaysme]
#7553730 - 10/24/07 05:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It definately gets you high, and not noxious fumes high, it is a THC high. But the smoke from it is extreamly harsh. I still used to do it when i really wanted to get high and i didnt have any weed.
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: opensaysme]
#7568291 - 10/27/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You're a moron.
Thanks for your opinion. I'll treasure it always.
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You would have people believe that anyone who smokes "pipe residue" is doing it because they're fiending for a high??
But you would think nothing of it if people smoked just as much but instead were smoking legalized weed. Your logic is flawed....
What? Regardless of whether what the person is smoking is legal or not, I would find it gross. If I saw someone scraping the tobacco pipe ashes into a ball and smoking that, I would think it just as disgusting. And yes, in either case I think it is 'fiending' because otherwise they would just wait until they could get some more. Like someone before said, this is equivalent to sopping up the alcohol off a bar's floor. You could claim to just be resourceful, but I'd say it is pretty pathetic.
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People smoke the residue because its around and it gets you high, some people like to get high. Say you normally smoke twice a week, you've been out of bud for a week or two but your pipe is filled with residue. If you smoke it that doesn't make you a fiend, you're simply using the tools given to you to get high.
See above.
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Im also really not sure what you're talking about with the way shorter duration from smoking residue. Your implying that when people smoke residue its not THC that gets them high, but other chemicals byproducts from the smoked material.
I basically straight out said that. I also said that what THC is there is in minimal amounts, seeing as most of it has already been smoked.
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Really? Thats odd because when i smoke it i'm high for the same amount of time, with the same feeling as a normal smoke sesh. Complete with red eyes, the munchies, and a strong desire to listen to some jams.
Wow. Do you normally smoke really crappy weed?
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I have never met anyone that called it hash. Granted, given the choice anyone would smoke regular straight up weed. No argument there. But you can't bash people for getting high when they got the chance to and theres nothing else around.
You can actually. I never considered myself a weed snob. And I don't hang with a rich crowd, but damn. Have the standards really dropped that far?
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: AnotherDimension]
#7568309 - 10/27/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your opinion is what it is, i can't change that. I'll agree to disagree.
But i do not smoke crappy weed, i haven't in many years. I only purchase quality buds, good strains grown well, picked at the ideal time, and cured right. Maybe that's why my residue gets me high?
If said ganja is not around, i'm not above smoking some "residue". Call me a fiend if you wish, i call it being resourceful.
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: opensaysme]
#7568320 - 10/27/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow, I really can't believe how hostile this has gotten over some brown, stinky stuff. 
 
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: TylerxDurden]
#7569359 - 10/28/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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smoke blunts and then you won't have to bitch about this anymore! I'm pretty sure the reason you get a different high from smoking blunts is because you smoke the resin as it builds up in the blunt.
Edited by Caribou_Lou (10/28/07 10:30 AM)
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Re: Residue a more accurate term for resin? [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7569511 - 10/28/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Same thing happens with a joint though, if you smoke good bud the mouthpiece will get black and sticky by the end. The difference in high with blunts would be mainly due to the addition of tobacco smoke to the mix. Especially the thick leaf blunts.
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