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life & death
    #7446303 - 09/23/07 11:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

can one be living and dying at the same time.


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Re: life & death [Re: snoot]
    #7446325 - 09/24/07 12:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yes.


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Re: life & death [Re: TODAY]
    #7446346 - 09/24/07 12:21 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Living is dying. They are the same thing.


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Re: life & death [Re: Pingasa]
    #7447320 - 09/24/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

if you weren't living you'd be dead or never alive, they go hand in hand.


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Re: life & death [Re: snoot]
    #7447588 - 09/24/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Living and dying have some facets, as life and death. Combined, they show a nice colourful 'picture' mandala pattern of existence itself :smile:
For example: There are many living bodies out there, which are dead in their own spirit.
Or, while you are alive, many cells inside of you are dying.
And, of course, aging is the slow process of dying, while still alive.
Or, one is ever still alive while dying, else one would be dead, already :wink:
And so on.


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Re: life & death [Re: snoot]
    #7448716 - 09/24/07 06:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Living, the only thing worth dying for....
~ "NO FEAR" t-shirt....


>^;;^<


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Re: life & death [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #7449537 - 09/24/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

from the moment we are born we begin to die. life and death seem to be the same in that they are both a transformation from apparent nothingness to apparent something-ness. perhaps...


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Re: life & death [Re: cellardoor]
    #7449653 - 09/24/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No.
Biologically our "death" begins when we stop growing :shrug:


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Re: life & death [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7451123 - 09/25/07 09:51 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That really depends upon what you call "you." If you are your body, which is composed of individual, cooperating cells, then you begin to die the moment your first cell dies & is replaced by a new cell. This death-rebirth cycle on the cellular level begins at conception.


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Re: life & death [Re: snoot]
    #7451611 - 09/25/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

snoot said:
can one be living and dying at the same time.




duh.


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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7451873 - 09/25/07 01:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The sine wave of your life/death:



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Re: life & death [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7451889 - 09/25/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

So you have a primary peak in your twenties, drop precariously through your mid years; then make a major comeback and die at the apex of your secondary peak?

Methinks it does not work this way.


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Re: life & death [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7451908 - 09/25/07 01:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Think about it, after all the crap you have to go through in your mid years like paying taxes and making sure your kids go to college, death is a welcoming friend you look forward to.


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Re: life & death [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7451916 - 09/25/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like simple self-absorbed depression to me.

Maybe that's why I opted out on the kids.:lol:


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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7451923 - 09/25/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

*coughs* sterile *ahem*


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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7451933 - 09/25/07 01:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:

But really, I think that sine wave is a better representation of different phases of your life, not your whole life in general. And in that sense, it could be applied to every inhale and exhale of your breath, with the zero being one pointed awareness.

You would be bringing your high awareness and low awareness to a balance.


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Re: life & death [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7451936 - 09/25/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

As if that's a bad thing. I would be proud to find that I was sterile and excited about the birth control thingy.

Not that you have any offspring old man.:rofl2: But I suspect that is for different reasons altogether. :sexysmile:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: life & death [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7451941 - 09/25/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

EternalCowabunga said:
:lol:

But really, I think that sine wave is a better representation of different phases of your life, not your whole life in general. And in that sense, it could be applied to every inhale and exhale of your breath, with the zero being one pointed awareness.

You would be bringing your high awareness and low awareness to a balance.




Humans do not make it to "high awareness".:monkeydance:


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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7451945 - 09/25/07 01:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going to get my teeth fixed real soon, ayup!


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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7451956 - 09/25/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

"high awareness" = hearing every sound around you with impeccable clarity, feeling your feelings, seeing your thoughts in the mind's eye

"low awareness" = thinking thoughts about the world around you and having those thoughts obscure the very world you are thinking about. the mind is loud, you aren't aware of all the different feelings in your body

high awareness is being in touch with your lifeforce, low awareness you might as well be a mind floating around without a body


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Re: life & death [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7451967 - 09/25/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Nothing wrong with being a brain in a vat.


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Re: life & death [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7451972 - 09/25/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yep, you would really save on clothing, grooming products & furniture.  :grin:


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Re: life & death [Re: Veritas]
    #7452039 - 09/25/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

How much is a gallon of formaldehyde these days?


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Re: life & death [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7452098 - 09/25/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

"high awareness" = hearing every sound around you with impeccable clarity, feeling your feelings, seeing your thoughts in the mind's eye


That's what I said. This may be something a very few humans get a glimpse of for a moment but that's it as far as I have observed. How about medium awareness?:lol:


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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7452103 - 09/25/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've been high before...it's like, totally possible, dude!  :stoned:


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Re: life & death [Re: Veritas]
    #7452125 - 09/25/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

But the question is, how high?:mushroom2: or  :mushroom2::mushroom2: or  :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:  or 


:mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::whoa:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7452136 - 09/25/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

About :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: last time. :grin:


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Re: life & death [Re: Veritas]
    #7452158 - 09/25/07 02:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The psychonaut's say high begins at 5. We're back to medium. Dude.:lol:


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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7452161 - 09/25/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Most psychonauts are not 125 lb. women, dude. :lol:


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Re: life & death [Re: Veritas]
    #7452181 - 09/25/07 03:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Doesn't have to be that way. According to Hue psychedelic effects are not dependent on body weight.


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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7452191 - 09/25/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm a lightweight either way. :shrug:


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Re: life & death [Re: Veritas]
    #7452203 - 09/25/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

medium weight, like I said.


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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7452217 - 09/25/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Are you being contrary just to be contrary?  :mad:


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Re: life & death [Re: Veritas]
    #7452279 - 09/25/07 03:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No, I was kidding and referring back to my post to EternalCowabunga.


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Re: life & death [Re: Icelander]
    #7453022 - 09/25/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:

Cracked me up.

:blazed:

"And all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put Humpty back together again."

I hate yokes when they are hardboiled.
Poached, scrambled, maybe an omelet with some peppers and onions.
In any case mix it with the white, right??


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Re: life & death [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7453732 - 09/25/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

meditation is key to keeping high awareness
or you can keep your heart open, letting your emotions express themselves

true, high awareness could also refer to being high, like on mushrooms, as veritas and icelander were talking about, but mushrooms aren't the only way

medium is like drinking a hot cup of tea and sitting in a rocking chair listening to some Miles Davis, Icelander

reading some nietzsche or talking about the concept of infinity with someone else will also, in my experience, lead you to that place in which you feel like "where do I go from here, I have nothing to say and nothing to do" and then all sorts of options and perspectives pop up

this post is for the people who think too much  :mypleasure:


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