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OfflinePledge2Educate
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Depression Question
    #7445509 - 09/23/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My friend Mike is really depressed, he cuts himself, and shit.
The fucker's tried to commit suicide like 2 times this month.
He comes to me today and asks me if he could buy an oz of shrooms,
I told him to wait until tomorrow, and I'll think about it.

Given that he's all depressed, should I sell him shrooms?
If I do will it fuck his head up even more?


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Re: Depression Question [Re: Pledge2Educate]
    #7445517 - 09/23/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

have you identified that drugs and shrooms are the culprit to his depression??

if so, then do not sell it to him
if not, what could the harm be?
would there be any benefits?


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Re: Depression Question [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7445536 - 09/23/07 08:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I just don't want to sell shrooms to his ass, he goes tripping, then his depression get worse, and he actually goes through with the suicide crap.
I'd feel horrible.

But as far as drugs being the culprit, I doubt that.


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GGreatOne234 said:
I've never come across a cow pasture in
Florida that did not have No Trespassing signs.
Those signs mean stay the f away.


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Re: Depression Question [Re: Pledge2Educate]
    #7445549 - 09/23/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hmm
to be honest
you should discuss this with him
if he is comfortable with talking about it

if not
and you think you can't handle the guilt trip
just tell him you're out of shrooms


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Re: Depression Question [Re: Pledge2Educate]
    #7445553 - 09/23/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If he has suicidal tendencies, I'm gonna go with don't sell them to him

tell him you are out or some shit. Or if he's a good friend maybe he can understand that it wouldn't be a good idea for someone not in a good mental state.

Psychedelics in general can perpetuate or even worsen an existing mental condition. Someone who has suicidal tendencies is obviously not in the best state of mind.


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Re: Depression Question [Re: Pledge2Educate]
    #7445557 - 09/23/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

talk to him first. Don't just sell it to him. let him know that your worried. Its for his own good that you don't sell them to him. Hell, I've thought about suicide before on shrooms, and I'm one generally a very happy person. Giving them to some one with depression just seems like a bad recipe to me. Unless you do them with him, and help to make his experiences good, and fill them with good vibes.


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Re: Depression Question [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7445579 - 09/23/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah you guys are probably right, I'll tell him I'm out of shrooms.
I don't want to worsen his condition.


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I've never come across a cow pasture in
Florida that did not have No Trespassing signs.
Those signs mean stay the f away.


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Re: Depression Question [Re: Pledge2Educate]
    #7445592 - 09/23/07 08:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

be there for him
but if anything goes wrong
never feel guilty
and don't blame yourself

when my friend took his own life
i blamed myself
but that just led me to a path just like his


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Re: Depression Question [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7445623 - 09/23/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

oo this is touchy man...

back when i first tried mushrooms i was in a state of severe depression...my first trip was amazing. it seemed like all of my sadness was lifted from me and i had 7-8 hours to be completely free and reborn into a beautiful world...it was an amazing first trip and the absolute best way i could have imagined being introduced to the psychedelic experience...

BUT a month later i was having relapses into that depression because i was younger and i did not understand that i must incorporate my tripping experience into my everyday life...it had been about 5 weeks since my first mushroom trip and i wanted to jump back into that wonderful feeling as soon as i could...long story short, i dosed one night way before i was really ready to and got the trip of my life...complete ego death and at the moment it was what i considered a "trip from hell"

i am fine now and even though i still suffer from depression sometimes, i am fine with my experience and have recovered from it very well...it taught me a lot and after months and months of being afraid and thinking about the trip, i was ready again and could take the step back into the mushroom experience...LSD ALSO HELPED ME PREPARE FOR THE MUSHROOM AGAIN...my first LSD trip seemed to heal my wounds from that rough experience and got me very interested in psychedelics again..

O K, anyways...
i would be extremely careful with your friend in this situation...if you KNOW he is still depressed i would sit down and have a serious talk with him about this next mushroom experience if you do indeed decide he is ok and ready...definitely question what he intends to do with the oz, and why he needs an entire oz...your friend could be in a very dark place and the intensity of a strong mushroom dose could trigger PTSD or some type of psychosis....

however it could also save his life.

i would say you just need to talk to him and make sure the talk gets down deep...he is your friend and it sounds like he needs your help and support in his life...i sometimes wish my friends knew more about me and were there for me more but really it is my fault because i am so candid about my emotions...if he is the same, then he might NEED you to make the effort to talk to him seriously...

good luck man..hope all goes well....TALK to your friend! the ONLY thing that has kept me from suicide so many times were my friends...we have had good friends die before and i saw how it affected everyone...i couldn't imagine being selfish enough one night to make sooo many people sad for perhaps the rest of THEIR lives...


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Re: Depression Question [Re: Pledge2Educate]
    #7445674 - 09/23/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If he eats shrooms and kills himself, the cops are gonna go after whoever gave them to him. :nono:


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Re: Depression Question [Re: Diploid]
    #7445706 - 09/23/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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If he eats shrooms and kills himself, the cops are gonna go after whoever gave them to him. :nono:




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Re: Depression Question [Re: D4NK]
    #7445765 - 09/23/07 09:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i make sure everytime i trip im in a good state of mind. i wouldnt giv hime any. he's screaming for attention. you just dont "try" and kill yourself twice in one month. either you do it or you sorry to say half ass it to get attention.


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Re: Depression Question [Re: blood4blood]
    #7445857 - 09/23/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not so sure he really is screaming for attention man.
He just has some horrible luck at dying.

A couple attempts ago he jumped off a cell phone tower
from about 60 ft. after taking 200 antihistimines.
He broke his right arm, left leg, and a couple ribs.

An ambulance came and saved his ass.

He's just got some horrible luck dying.


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I've never come across a cow pasture in
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Those signs mean stay the f away.


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Re: Depression Question [Re: Pledge2Educate]
    #7445905 - 09/23/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well, if he jumps off a building while tripping, itl be another bad thing about hallucinogens. Kinda like when that one guy is saying acid is the cause for his daughters death in that leary video. Anyways, It could help him out in his depression or have a bad trip which will make him want to kill himself, If he really wants to die why not just od on something easy to od on... Or eat a gallerina/amanita.


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Re: Depression Question [Re: Pledge2Educate]
    #7445994 - 09/23/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

did he take that many antihistamines to get high or to OD? Diphenhydramine hydrochloride, the active ingredient in Benadryl (and the ingredient in OTC "PM" pain relievers that makes you sleepy) can actually be a hallucinogen when taken in high quantities.

I'd say don't give him any, as he's probably wanting to have a bad trip and kill himself. Like someone mentioned before, you could get into trouble with the police. You could be charged with murder.


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