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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7444981 - 09/23/07 05:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Nobody, they just have to deal with it. Just like black africans just have to deal with having arabs in N. Africa who stole their land. You cannot hold children accountable for the sins of their fathers.

And Im glad that you agree international law is not a worthy metric for anything.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7444982 - 09/23/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

In essence we should stay out of Iran's way unless it directly affects us. I agree and believe that we should stay out of everyones way unless it effects us. But then, how do you define an effect that affords our reaction? Invasion? Economical stress? Hosting immoral standards? terrorism? Where is the line where we should act, because all of these things are very closely tied together and are grey even to eachother.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7444985 - 09/23/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Of course its not right. But its how it is. I'm not going to bullshit myself, if theres someone I don't like getting picked on I am going to not do a damn thing to help him out. If its my friend I will. Its the same way with countries.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: aDoS]
    #7445009 - 09/23/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

So should we start educating America about these other cultures and civilizations, or should we just take the media at its word and follow suit?


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: joekenorer]
    #7445017 - 09/23/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

What I'm saying is its natural behavior.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: aDoS]
    #7445027 - 09/23/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Strive for more, I say.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: DieCommie]
    #7445301 - 09/23/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Nobody, they just have to deal with it. Just like black africans just have to deal with having arabs in N. Africa who stole their land. You cannot hold children accountable for the sins of their fathers.



Doesn't work as an excuse. The fathers are still alive, and palestinians who were moved are still alive and displaced. Not only is it an invalid excuse, it is a huge and hypocritical double-standard for all nations involved.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7445314 - 09/23/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Britian carved up some land for the Jews. The Arabs got all pissy that non-Arabs were living there. They proceeded to declare war on Israel. The Arabs and Israel fought several more wars over the years (all when the Arab countries tried to invade or were about to invade). Israel kept some of the territory that it conquered. Also, Israel only responds when it has been threatened or acted upon. It currently does not initiate any hostilities.

You can't say with a straight face that the Arabs would do the same thing if they had the power. They would annihilate the Jews or conquer them and do all kinds of nasty stuff. I'm not saying that the Jews are %100 perfect but the Arabs would expel or slaughter them if given the chance.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7445320 - 09/23/07 07:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Disco Cat said:
Doesn't work as an excuse. The fathers are still alive, and palestinians who were moved are still alive and displaced. Not only is it an invalid excuse, it is a hugeand hypocritical double-standard for all nations involved.





What are you driving for specifically with this thread? Are you questioning the legitimacy of Israel's existence or are you questioning the U.S. media's coverage of the Iranian president's moods, remarks, and intentions?


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: DieCommie]
    #7445328 - 09/23/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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They dont assimilate to the cultures where they live. After the first diaspora they lived in many countries around the mediterranean. They maintained their culture, language and way of life in spite of enormous pressures from their host countries. This, understandably, leads to resentment and hostility




Did you translate that word for word from the "The Eternal Jew" Nazi propaganda movie? Its close enough to give me deja vu.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: Asante]
    #7445342 - 09/23/07 07:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It is true that a lot of Jewish communities throughout history have not assimilated into their host cultures. I'm not saying that's a bad thing or anything...but it is somewhat true.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7445351 - 09/23/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It is, but the way he says it is almost the same as in that Nazi propaganda movie (which I saw last week) giving me a serious deja vu.

I don't mean more than what I say.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7445370 - 09/23/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I started with a statement which corrected out the erronous "wipe Israel off the map" propaganda line, showing what was really said (because I think it's important that people cut through lies), and then continued talking as other issues came up. I have no gameplan or greater goal beyond that. I'm just continuing to point out what I see as an unfairness in the Israel/Arab situation, tho I'm on no mission to prove anything.

Just passing time while figuring things out.
Why do you ask?


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7445394 - 09/23/07 07:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Just wondering. Because it seemed as if you had a serious anti-Israeli bias and that might have been affecting your logical examination of said events.

So, the "wipe off the map" comment might have been misconstrued or misinterpreted. That still doesn't minimize the incredibly hostile policies of Iran toward Israel. It doesn't erase the incredibly hostile rhetoric that comes out of Iran in regards to Israel or the U.S.

And may I ask, if the Arabs had a chance of beating Israel in a war...what do you think would happen? Would the Arabs or the Persians show the Jews any mercy? I personally don't think so.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7445442 - 09/23/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I have no reason to think that Iranians would not like to eliminate Israeli Jews, but I do believe that the American translation of anyone speaking a language that the vast majority of Americans don't speak, could easily be skewed in the favor of the translating party. Whew.


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Re: Why do US media and politicians insist Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7446478 - 09/24/07 02:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ahmadinejad was on 60 minutes tonight, I'm just watching the vid now. The reporter's a fool, but Ahmadinejad's answers are good.

Video link

If that doesn't work, click here and scroll down for the video


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