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Malabar Pins
    #7444553 - 09/23/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

First successful pinning.



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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7444564 - 09/23/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:confused:is it just me or are these some odd looking pins?


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: tonyperez420]
    #7444601 - 09/23/07 04:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It isnt just you, i thought so too.


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7444612 - 09/23/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

any chemicals like oust/lysol/bleach fumes/etc been used recently in the immediate vicinity or previously used in high quantities in the containers you're fruiting?


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: dysphoria]
    #7444617 - 09/23/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yes. lysol. In the vicinity.


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7444644 - 09/23/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well there ya go, if the odd growth continues, expect crazy ass mutants.
and we expect crazy ass mutant porn pics. =)

and dont worry, they'll be safe to eat, print, etc.
and probably even clone too, since its environmental/chemical mutation, not genetic.


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: dysphoria]
    #7444668 - 09/23/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

So how can the chemicals cause mutation and not make the mushrooms inedible? And will it effect the potency?


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7444673 - 09/23/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

there's no real proof lysol causes mutants, just wait for them to develop more. yes, they do look weird but they could turn out normal.

doesn't really matter anyways right? I mean, as long as you get a fruit, it doesn't matter what it looks like, it'll always contain psilocybin

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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: Seventy]
    #7445088 - 09/23/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, those are some weird looking pins man. Very weird.. I've never seen anything like it.


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: anomaly420]
    #7445683 - 09/23/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

They look odd but when my pins first start like an hour old they dont have any visible cap kinda like a knot. they eventually will get a cap, it might be genetic.


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7445733 - 09/23/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think it's just the strain, I have seen pics of malabar, they look very odd. A persistant veil.


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: aspore]
    #7445744 - 09/23/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

very persistent veil, odd looking when mature. GOtta use something to tear veil away to get a print.


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: jeetered]
    #7445783 - 09/23/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ya 2 things take more pics and make prints for sure.

very cool IMO


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: whiterussia]
    #7445973 - 09/23/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

looks moldy to me, like your shrooms are being eaten alive


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: teahupoo]
    #7446183 - 09/23/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

looks more like a high res macro pic.. unless he's using 4 inch coarse vermiculite chunks, i'd say that's primordia, that looks just fine, with tomentose mycelium surrounding.

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or is it just me.


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: teahupoo]
    #7446202 - 09/23/07 11:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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looks moldy to me, like your shrooms are being eaten alive




Don't really know what the fuck is going on the mycelium doesn't look too, uhh, ryzomorphic... I'm pretty sure it's all good growth there. More pics will come when things change. hopefully tomorrow


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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: jeetered]
    #7446299 - 09/23/07 11:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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looks more like a high res macro pic.. unless he's using 4 inch coarse vermiculite chunks, i'd say that's primordia, that looks just fine, with tomentose mycelium surrounding.

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or is it just me.



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Re: Malabar Pins [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7446313 - 09/24/07 12:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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looks moldy to me, like your shrooms are being eaten alive




Don't really know what the fuck is going on the mycelium doesn't look too, uhh, ryzomorphic... I'm pretty sure it's all good growth there. More pics will come when things change. hopefully tomorrow



It looks just fine! It does look weird, I must admit, but it doesn't look like ANY CONTAMINATION I have have experienced.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7453414 - 09/25/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Pin Porn. Still tiny.



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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7453427 - 09/25/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i cant wait to see them all grown up :laugh:


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: ButterWeasels]
    #7453781 - 09/25/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i have seen pins look like this before early on there is some on this message board.....cool idea though i think ill run some tests to determine if lysol and other enviornmetally safe products will cause mutants.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: highc]
    #7464547 - 09/28/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

More Progress
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1563329#1563329
Do these look like what he is describing?



What's the causing the bottom of the pins to be black? This guy cased iit with something that ended up just feeding the mycelium, so it colonized it completely.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7465017 - 09/28/07 05:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

contamination!  :bondage:


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: teahupoo]
    #7465082 - 09/28/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

that shit looks WACK


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: sproket13]
    #7465132 - 09/28/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

that doesn't look like a cubensis. are u sure its Malabar? from a reputable supplier?


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7465145 - 09/28/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i got them from the hawks eye. Are you sure isnt b/c the casing i used was a soil/manure mixture and straw? It colonized the soil mix completely, and i decided to just fruit it.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7465181 - 09/28/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

your casing layer is to be a non-nutritive layer meaning no manure.
regardless your fruits are weird! not like cubes. but the black isnt a contam, it would centralize itself just at the base of the fruit. i cant see it anywhere else, and your casing looks very healthy, so all i know is it may not be a cube. do u have upto date pictures? post em lets see whats happening now.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7465185 - 09/28/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

damn... haven't seen anything quite like that...


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: MFGFA37]
    #7465191 - 09/28/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Those pics are from earlier today. Im gonna keep posting pics. Im interested to see what happens. I wish someone could explain the color though.:confused:


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7465223 - 09/28/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

keep doing what your doing. they do look healthy just not a cube that ive ever seen. maybe a Pan. or Liberty. i dunno very white caps though huh. keep going im interested in this one!! Have you seen anyone elses Malabar strain. yeah a lil different. ive never had experience with hawkseye


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7465241 - 09/28/07 06:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah ive been looking at a lot of pictures. These dont really look like the pictures ive seen. But the show must go on.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7465486 - 09/28/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

BTW: I know that the casing is not supposed to be colonized, it was really a mistake. The casing i chose i had tried to use as a substrate with no colonization, so i tried it as a casing(since i had a bulk amount) and it colonized REALLY fast. I guess we'll wait and see what happens, i'll keep the pics up to date though.
Also, keep in mind that these are about 1 inch tall at this point..


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7465509 - 09/28/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude, those look awesome! Like zombie hands raising from a snow covered grave.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: MajorDick]
    #7466052 - 09/28/07 11:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, what the HELL are those?


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: archivist]
    #7466058 - 09/28/07 11:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

COOL! HALLOWEEN CUBES! JUST IN TIME. They look like they're from night of the living dead or something. I would take plenty of pictures through


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7466145 - 09/29/07 12:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yea those aren't cubes i would guess it to be oysters with contamination (maybe cobweb)


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7466284 - 09/29/07 02:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, that mycelium doesn't look too healthy there, looks infested with cobweb

and those things are scaring the fuck outta me. they look evil, poisonous man. If I had that growing in one of my casings Id shit myself


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7466311 - 09/29/07 02:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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keep doing what your doing. they do look healthy just not a cube that ive ever seen. maybe a Pan. or Liberty. i dunno very white caps though huh. keep going im interested in this one!! Have you seen anyone elses Malabar strain. yeah a lil different. ive never had experience with hawkseye




Definitily neither Pans nor Libs!?!

I have no idea what it is but maybe it's some kind of Macrotyphula species. At least there shape loks a little like that!


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Fahkface]
    #7466389 - 09/29/07 04:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

looks covered in cobweb to me.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: shroomerite]
    #7466796 - 09/29/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

wouldnt cobweb of that large of an infestation over come the mycellium and not allow it to pin so profusly? the "cobweb mold" is working right up to the pins not in any particular pattern, just over all covered. i think its myc. Im expecting the fruits stems to be grey or even a light brown black. whats todays pic gonna look like?
You think theyer oysters? i dunno. this is a good one to keep on, its very interesting.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7466842 - 09/29/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)


Exactly, i figured a contamination would limit growth, but they are growing healthily.



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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7466888 - 09/29/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Exactly, i figured a contamination would limit growth, but they are growing healthily.




Healthily???? I think not.

Those do not look anything like a cubensis. It looks as if your casing is severly contaminated with cobwebish mold.

i would NOT eat those.


my gf says 'ahhh.. what the fuck is wrong with them. i dont even grow and i know that doesnt look right'


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: derx]
    #7466934 - 09/29/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Of coarse they dint look like a cube. th eyer supposed to be Malabar and were ordered from hawks eye he said. if they were Malabar they sure as hell wouldn't look like that in any way shape or form! they do look healthy but of another species of fungus. not a cube maybe not even an active. why does that look contaminated? i know that a contamination is something you weren't trying to grow but these are a mushroom of some sort. if it is cobweb mold its a huge infestation and would not allow that kind of growth.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7466948 - 09/29/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I dunno I'm just a newb but i would like to see this log start to finish, and after its finished i would say you gained alto of knowledge from this lets call it, experiment. i think they look awesome. keep postin!


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7466957 - 09/29/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This pretty much is an experiment with casing materials. I told myself that when they mature if they dont change color at some point, i wont eat them. Honestly it doesnt matter to me, im just curious to see how these turn out.


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    #7466975 - 09/29/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

DO NOT EAT THOSE AND GET YOUR MONEY BACK THAT ISNT EVEN CUBENSIS THATS DEATH IN A TRAY.


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    #7466978 - 09/29/07 11:04 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

seriously don't eat those

you've got a terrible cobweb contamination, among other things as well


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    #7466984 - 09/29/07 11:06 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah thats death spiders in snow pushing up legs or some shit, not even shrooms i'd toss that POST HASTE.


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    #7467044 - 09/29/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Im not going to be able to get my money back, it was months ago. And ive already invested the time into this, why would i just throw it away without seeing the end result? And if no one can tell me for certain what's going on, then im gonna just keep it going.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7467101 - 09/29/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

thats fucking gross
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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: wutang]
    #7467119 - 09/29/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'd try posting the pics in either the contamination or medicinal forum. Perhaps one of the guys experienced with growing other species can tell you what you've got there.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: cbiegel]
    #7467162 - 09/29/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Why toss it?
Mold spreads it's spores as well and sometimes you'll never get it out of you flat again.
BUt if I were you I wouldn't toss it either for it's too interesting :smile:
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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7467191 - 09/29/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Im not going to be able to get my money back, it was months ago. And ive already invested the time into this, why would i just throw it away without seeing the end result? And if no one can tell me for certain what's going on, then im gonna just keep it going.




not true at all, contact the hawks eye, explain your situation and they'll probably send you a free syringe. obviously something went very wrong here because those definitely aren't cubes. for the sake of your health and future grows, I'd toss them as soon as you're done examining them.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Seventy]
    #7467203 - 09/29/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The problem with that is, i live in a state that i cant have spores. i just so happened to be on vacation in a state where they are legal when i ordered them. So i think i may be SOL.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7467212 - 09/29/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Mhhh. that surely is a bit of a problem.
Though I guess it wasn't the print that was fucked up here but contams and spores that got into the casing while preparing it...


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    #7467220 - 09/29/07 12:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This blows. I dont know what i wanna do.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: ButterWeasels]
    #7467292 - 09/29/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

holy crap you're growing... candy corns!


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7467348 - 09/29/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Oh what the hell, does cobweb mold fruit? LOL! Is this the first ever glimpse of cobweb mold and mushroom mycelium mutating and becoming one! Is this the offspring of the two? LOL! Sounds like a good horror story in the making.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7468177 - 09/29/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Ganoderma Lucidum will grow in antler form under certain conditions in cultivation

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    #7468219 - 09/29/07 08:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ive seen reishi grow that way in the wild. But im fairly sure these arent reishi.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7468245 - 09/29/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That was my thought, if only they had red stems. Here's some Ganoderma tsugae.
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    #7468315 - 09/29/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

whatever they are, i think we all agree they aren't cubensis?
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    #7468682 - 09/29/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Hell no i wouldnt eat em i would toss em...what if the stems were bruised ? would they still be red or would they turn a blackish color?? hmmm


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7468693 - 09/29/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

throw that shit out man
no one can even ID them!!!


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7468705 - 09/29/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I hope you're not going to eat those, buddy.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: IceMON]
    #7468724 - 09/29/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Who cares if the few of us here can't ID them, send them to a lab, or a university, let some students study them. Maybe those contain some type of chemical that can cure cancer.

I would definetly preserve them and document this whole thing (which, I suppose is what this log is), you never know, you might just have some miracle drug on your hands buddy.

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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: aspore]
    #7468729 - 09/29/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Hahaha, candy corns for Halloween, baby.  Give those candies to the little kiddies coming to your house :crazy2:

But yeah, those are pretty fucked up, I've read a lot of fungus books in the library, and I haven't seen any mushroom like that(but I don't claim to remember ALL of them :P).  Maybe you've succeeded in creating one of these "hybrids" vendors like to talk about  :hehehe:  :hehehe:


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7468756 - 09/29/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

by now i think no one cares what they are. i just wanna see it finish! u kkep doin what your doin and we will see the outcome. they are nice looking pins in my opinion. reishi, oyster, cubes whatever they are they are nice! please keep pic updates!


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7468800 - 09/29/07 11:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

we know not to eat un identafyables just we need to know what we have and what we are friggin growing, be it newb fault or vendor fault it doesnt matter. we are newbs and this site is for explanations on what we are doin, because this is a very touchy hobby and when we think something is wrong we turn to you guys,the "experts". trust us we arent going to eat whatever to get high, and we dont tell people to eat it and find out. we arent retards. we need explanations and this doesnt seem to get any explanation that is straight forward but dont eat it! duh! what is this and why did hawks eye,"if that was the vendor" give this to me
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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7469171 - 09/30/07 05:54 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Man, I'm addicted to this thread! I worked all night long, got off of work at 6am and rushed to see updated pics! Common ts727... Wake up and take some pics already! Someone has to know what those are. Unless you really do have something new in your possession. If they produce spores, I would like to acquire some from you.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7469275 - 09/30/07 07:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

me too! i'm second!!
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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7469370 - 09/30/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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what is this and why did hawks eye,"if that was the vendor" give this to me
claiming its Malabar. Period. maybe this is for a different topic?





If indeed, Hawks eye sold you this, and it was not cultivators error, then I offer this...... I can't tell you how many times I ordered a bean burrito without onions from TACO BELL, only to take a bite into it and have onions frolicking in my mouth! I can't tell you how many times I've ordered a Whopper without mustard and gotten home ready to eat, and it has mustard. Now, you would think, Taco bell makes hundreds of bean burritos a day right? (that is what they do!) Whataburger makes how many whoppers a day? Hell I don't know! But You would think that this is what they do all day long...... They should get it right huh!? Human error. Nothing more, nothing less. Will I go back to Taco Bell..? Yes! Will I try another Whopper? Hell yea! Now, If I go back to Taco bell and they don't replace my order or if I go back to Whataburger and they don't take care of me, will I stop eating burritos and burgers? Hell no! I'll either go to a different Taco Bell, or Different Whataburger. Hell, I might get pissed off enough to go to a different company altogether! They are in the customer service industry and are vying for my business! Expect human error from time to time, but also expect service.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/28) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7470158 - 09/30/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

How incredibly bizarre! What are these things?
It could be contamination. They are reminiscent of Ganoderma, Cordyceps or maybe Xylaria.
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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: ButterWeasels]
    #7470247 - 09/30/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

those pins scare me... haha


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: globejs]
    #7470312 - 09/30/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i'm gonna laugh if those shrooms are the strongest potent shrooms on earth and takes a gram for 8 gram effects. and you got to name it yourself


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: globejs]
    #7470327 - 09/30/07 12:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly we all have experienced human error from time to time,its how they fix or make it better that counts. And even if they dont fix it you still cant get detoured from other suppliers of what you are looking for i.e. cheeseburgers and the shitty service at fast food joints. I'm still gonna eat me a big mac i dont care they forgot the fish fillet the nuggets and fries I'm going to go in there and expect them to give me fresh food that was supposed to be in there. i dunno about your residence issue and what you can do about that, because what you were supposed to receive is illegal in three states and theres no way around talking them into breaking the law.
We like interesting topics like this and we all learn alot from these kinds of things.
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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/25) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7470439 - 09/30/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think it looks contaminated with cobweb mold. It is contaminated with a culture other than psilocybe cubensis.

They resemble stink horns but with different coloring. Look for musrhooms in family Phallus


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    #7470699 - 09/30/07 02:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Man, I'm addicted to this thread! I worked all night long, got off of work at 6am and rushed to see updated pics! Common ts727... Wake up and take some pics already! Someone has to know what those are. Unless you really do have something new in your possession. If they produce spores, I would like to acquire some from you.




That's very thought out and you're correct, why is a vendor sending this out? This could have potentially been deadly if someone that didn't actually care got their hands on it. I am glad that someone who does care obtained them. THey do need to be id'd i now agree on that. That definitely isn't like anything i've seen in a while.

Hybrids are bs, vendors that claim hybrids apparently need to boost sales, so they BS us.

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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: jeetered]
    #7470870 - 09/30/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, throw it out is only something someone who is looking to trip would say. And noone here is doing that right? :wink:

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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: aspore]
    #7470928 - 09/30/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: wutang]
    #7470985 - 09/30/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

damn! after reading this for the first time I am hooked too. Nice Taco Bell analogy...


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: MFGFA37]
    #7471003 - 09/30/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

he seems to have taken a break. maybe we scared him. if those were mine i would be taking pictures every two hours and posting.lol


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: MFGFA37]
    #7471010 - 09/30/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well isn't that the whole point of the grow here, to eventually get a psilocybe mushroom? there's no way in hell that's what this is, and this looks dangerous, I'd go so far as to say. waiting for an ID is as far as I'd go with these things..


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Seventy]
    #7471019 - 09/30/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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    #7471044 - 09/30/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:
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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: archivist]
    #7471047 - 09/30/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Damn... maybe you are right. He did say something about experimenting with casing materials... maybe he used human flesh, and they are running out of juice and lapped him up!  :smile:


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: archivist]
    #7471051 - 09/30/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well yeah his intent i believe was to cultivate Malabar strain, but we established that this is not.Be it cultivator or vendor error doesn't matter anymore. we just want to see the end product. none can be harmed by growing mushrooms even if they are deadly, and i dont see and dangerous contamination that would harm him either. so unless he needs the room for something else, i dont see why he shouldn't continue to see the end product. we all want to see WTF this is. no one here can say precisely what they are anyways.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/30) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7471511 - 09/30/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well as of today, project WTF Are Those is officially over.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/30) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7471545 - 09/30/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Awww, no pictures?? :frown:


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7471577 - 09/30/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

does it have a weird odor that smells like spoiled milk?

i'd put it outside. who knows what the fuck is growing in there...
haha go find a prof mycologist


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: timmiezown]
    #7471622 - 09/30/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Earlier I said that they were reminiscent of Xylaria.

Here is a picture of  Xylaria hypoxylon, the 'Candle snuff fungus'

Xylaria_hypoxylon.jpg

It looks very similar, doesn't it?


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: veggie]
    #7471742 - 09/30/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Hey hey, I think we found our winner! Took long enough though.. no offense


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7471790 - 09/30/07 08:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Xylaria hypoxylon huh. im going to research it. thats definitely it though!!


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: hardwoodAl]
    #7471809 - 09/30/07 08:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

just got done researching it.

now im curious as to how this was introduced.
possible post-casing contamination?
this just doesnt seem like something that'd be found in a vendor syringe, but :shrug:


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: dysphoria]
    #7471873 - 09/30/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'd say... what are the chances of that happening? Seems like it is very unlikely that there was contamination of Xylaria hypoxylon that just so happened to overtake some Malabar. Very strange indeed. Where are the final pictures anyhow? Why did you abort WTF?


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: dysphoria]
    #7471889 - 09/30/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

dysphoria said:
just got done researching it.

now im curious as to how this was introduced.

this just doesnt seem like something that'd be found in a vendor syringe, but :shrug:




Agreed..


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7472074 - 09/30/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

why the fuck did ryche send that


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: dysphoria]
    #7472103 - 09/30/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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possible post-casing contamination?





Thats what I think.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: layzdapipe]
    #7473227 - 10/01/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was gonna take a final set of pics, but my camera was acting up, and they didnt really look any diff. When i threw it out it all fell out in one big piece. Maybe i can keep it going outside.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7473267 - 10/01/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

shoulda kept a few for research, can you go grab a couple and dry em out? I'll pay for S+H.

google'd this info:

"Xylaria hypoxylon can be found year round in the S.F. Bay Area on downed wood. Fruiting bodies are blackish, thin, wiry and branched with white tips. The white tips consist of masses of asexual spores (conidia). As the fruiting body matures, it thickens, becomes all black, and sexual (ascospores) are produced in embedded perithecia. The latter form tiny pores on the surface of the fruiting body. Critical study of this species is needed in California, as there may be a number of species of Xylaria masquerading under this name, or the species may be extremely variable."


Melanin claim:

"1. The method of preserving a plant substrate subject to decay by microbial or environmental factors comprising applying to at least a surface of the substrate a decay-inhibiting effective amount of a preservative composition comprising melanin, a melanin precursor or a mixture thereof, and causing any such melanin precursor in said composition to polymerize to form melanin, such melanin being optionally in metal complexed form. "


8. The method of claim 3 in which the melanin is obtained from a fungus.

9. The method of claim 8 in which the fungus is from a genus selected from the group consisting of Ustulina, Xylaria, Hypoxylon, Ganoderma, Armillaria, Ophiostoma, and Aureobasidium and Phaeococcomyces. "

Sounds like it has some uses, needs more research though.


That's why it's the shroomery, and not "we only care about active-ery"

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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: aspore]
    #7474412 - 10/01/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well im drying some right now. Pm me with your info. And i would like to thank all of you guys for your support on this thread.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7476233 - 10/02/07 02:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

YOU GREW XYLARIA!!  :lol:

Xylaria hypoxylon





Xylaria carpophila


Xylaria longipes


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: CureCat]
    #7476594 - 10/02/07 07:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was trying to figure out where the spores cam from, considering i live in a state where they dont occur naturally.


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7476608 - 10/02/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

ugly mushrooms, yup


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Re: Malabar Pins (UPDATE 9/29) [Re: wutang]
    #7476697 - 10/02/07 08:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ugly???  I think they're fucking rad!!!

ts727 - Many species of wild mushrooms have habitats far more distributed than is documented in field guides.  For instance, Melanoleuca verrucipes should not grow in the U.S., yet, I have found it, along with a handful of others, each surprised by the ID since it is only documented from Europe.

Mushrooms don't read field guides, they grow wherever they damn well please.  :wink:


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