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ski
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Case, Birth???
#7443941 - 09/23/07 12:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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So i have 9 jars, i started with 12 and 3 got contaminated, out of the 9 jars i have i have 3 sets of 2 jars that are the same strain (B+,TC and CAM)... while the other 3 are all different strands(OI,PB,EQ)...
With the sperate strands and me only having one jar of each would i be better of casing them in a small container to increase substrate depth, or should i thin it out for more surface area? or should i simply birth these 3 cakes?
I know deeper substrate means bigger fruits, but if i have surface area will i get more littler fruits, or will i get the most fruits by birthing??
Edited by ski (09/23/07 06:58 PM)
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Re: Case, Birth??? [Re: ski]
#7444650 - 09/23/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Break those cakes up (a cheese grater works nicely) and use them to spawn a bulk substrate, such as coir or horse crap.
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ski
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Re: Case, Birth??? [Re: dog]
#7444656 - 09/23/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have a 4lb rye bag and a 4 lb wbs bag im going to spawn later, my hpoo and straw wont be ready for a while and these cakes are almost ready. So what do you suggest i do? Will i get more fruits if i just birth it (PF tek) Or i have 2 options for my casing try, one is shallower and longer, the other is deeper and shorter?? What work best
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Re: Case, Birth??? [Re: ski]
#7444791 - 09/23/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm, usually I'd say go for the bulk grow, but with so many different strains in one box that sounds iffy. Maybe PF Tek those individual cakes, but save 2 of the same strain (the healthiest looking ones) to crumble into a bulk tek.
Maybe the shallower, flatter one is better if you have the space? Mostly I'd use increased surface area to help get a big flush, rather than to grow the right size of fruits. Hope that helps!
PS I didn't know that you could use coir as a substrate. I thought it was just used for casing mix.
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ski
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Re: Case, Birth??? [Re: ananda]
#7444984 - 09/23/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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So i should crumble ans case my single jars? I was going to crumble and case my 3 sets of jars because thats a decent amount of colonized substrate, i was basically wondering what the best thing to with single jars was for the most fruits.... spawning the 3 single jars isnt possible right now so im limited to casing them in a bigger or smaller tray or birthing them.... I dont know what you meant by using coir as a substrate?? i have brf jars... Casing the 3 sets with 50 50 peat verm..
What im trying to figure out is what to do with my single jars....
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Re: Case, Birth??? [Re: ananda]
#7445064 - 09/23/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ananda said: PS I didn't know that you could use coir as a substrate. I thought it was just used for casing mix.
I woulnt take any advise from someone who hasnt read enough around here to know whether or not coir is good for a substrate..
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Re: Case, Birth??? [Re: Vegan]
#7445071 - 09/23/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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any suggestions about the size of tray if i case these single jars? I mean they are both small but the bigger one will result in a thinner substrate layer and the smaller will result in a thicker substrate layer...... which will produce more fruits?
And if birthing will produce more let me know!
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Re: Case, Birth??? [Re: ski]
#7445829 - 09/23/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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any one?
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Re: Case, Birth??? [Re: ski]
#7446586 - 09/24/07 03:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The top left and the lower casing were done with 50/50 tek 1 HALF PINT CAKE EACH--.5 layer on bottom--.5 layer on top using hyphaes pinning strategy-- crumbled PF cakes..the top right is done with 2 pf cakes about 3/4" casing layers..pans are approx 8x4" I was extremely happy with the results (much better the just strait cake fruiting
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they werent monster size but did a lot better than going the cakes route
and BTW the BYE I got 2 Great flushes form both with a dunk after each flush
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