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vm711
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My trip and your suggestions...
#7443862 - 09/23/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The other night I ate 1/8th oz mushrooms as my second trip experience. The first time I ate 1/8th as well. Both times went very well in the beginning, and both times I had a very clear head in the morning, which is an incredibly refreshing feeling. However, towards the end of both of these trips I experienced some pretty irritating thoughts on the purpose of life and how my life is so empty. I began to wish that the trip would end, and how I would never eat mushrooms again. I'm wondering what I can do in the future to prevent this? I realize that it all comes down to the individual and will need experimentation on my part. How is mushroom tea as opposed to eating them? Will the trip be shorter? I would like to try to trip for no longer than 3 hours if possible. How about eating just 1 gram at a time? Please give me some suggestions, preferably from those who have had a similar problem with this somewhat higher dose of mushrooms. I don't think I ever want to eat 3.5 grams again...
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: vm711]
#7443914 - 09/23/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Keep busy, occupy yourself with some toys or a fun activity so you don't have a chance to think about things like that. The same happened with me, I was great until I lied down and that was when it turned bad.
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: learningtofly]
#7443938 - 09/23/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you feel your life is empty and without purpose, and you wish to continue to live as you do now, then Im sorry I cant help.
However, if you feel there is some truth to this, I would suggest you continue to explore and find the things inside that inspire you to live, love and create beauty in your life.
Tea will be a more intense, quicker trip, usually I have had the experience where the entire trip was crammed into a shorter time frame, so I had to spend lots of time after tripping to readjust and rewire myself and reflect on what I had learnt.
With all due respect, keeping yourself busy with "things" to distract you as learningtofly mentioned may be ok if all you want is to just "get fucked up" and not find the real you. Although I feel it is necessary sometimes to just examine the world around you on shrooms because the little things can sometimes make great changes in who you are.
Sorry but I must reiterate, if all you want is hide from what the trip tells you, I dont se the point in doing it in the first place. Maybe I didnt understand what you were saying because of how it was worded?
Dont mean to be a dick. Just being honest in how I feel about your questions.
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vm711
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: learningtofly]
#7443940 - 09/23/07 12:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright, thats about when it went bad, when I lied down. But the dose must effect this situation a bit, no? I'm thinking, make tea with hald an eighth or less, to get a short body high, will that work? I wouldnt mind having a light trip for a couple hours.
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vm711
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: vm711]
#7443960 - 09/23/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I appreciate the honesty. I do believe the feelings of my life being without purpose was a result of being on a drug, not because I'm really dissapointed with my life. I have a passion for music and I love life for that passion. I felt that life in general, not only my life, was pointless and meaningless, and that bothered me. I didn't have any suicidal thoughts that I remember, but I kept dwelling on things that bothered me, like going to work and school.
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: vm711]
#7443982 - 09/23/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well low doses are the best when you just start out, mostly because you need to let your body and mind adjust to the new insights you may recieve
Even if you dont think its anything, your body and mind are still learning to deal with it.
Do you not want to do drugs? If you dont, then I would say just dont. As for dwelling on things that bother you, tahts probably why you didnt enjoy it much. Its kind of annoying leading life the way we lead it anyway.
Nice to know you are clear on your passions and loves.
Why did you think life is pointless? Could you elaborate?
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vm711
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: gmuralid]
#7444025 - 09/23/07 12:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the response. I deeply enjoyed the majority of the experience, it's just that I felt towards the end that "this is lasting too long" and "im never doing this again. why am I taking drugs to begin with?" I remember when I first layed down I thought that I was content to die someday, and not scared of it happening. Then I just started dwelling on how life is pointless, kind of in a typical cheesy philosophical way. Sometimes I dwell on religion and whether or not there is a god too, but I don't remember exactly what I was thinking. I also, for this particular trip, ate the mushrooms at maybe 10PM, and couldn't sleep until 3:30 or so. I remember time going by incredibly slow at one point, I had some stomach pains through the night but I mostly ignored them, I looked at my cell phone at one point and it was 2am, I tried to go to sleep for what seemed like a half hour and I looked back at the time, 3 minutes had gone by. Really odd. I figure that I can get the good experience out of this by shortening the duration, thereby not giving me the chance to think too much, as I really enjoyed the first 2 or 3 hours of my experience. That's why I'm asking ideas on how to achieve that, so I can give it a shot in a couple months when i'm ready again.
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: vm711]
#7444079 - 09/23/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you want a shorter trip then I would suggest powdering the mushrooms first, and let them soak in lemon juice for 10 minutes before consuming. This will make the trip shorter but also more intense, so just use less mushrooms than you normally would. I'd think for the trip your looking for try around a half 1/8th using the lemon juice method.
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: MindFood]
#7444107 - 09/23/07 01:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tossing in a blank line here and there in a trip report VASTLY increases its readability and reduces eye strain. Not to sound mean, but seriously, formatting a post so someone might actually be able to read it is pretty easy.
Take a look through some of the trip reports in the collection, and you'll see why.
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vm711
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: Skeeblix]
#7444262 - 09/23/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lemon juice tip appreciated. Does tea have similar effects?
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gmuralid
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: vm711]
#7444278 - 09/23/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes. Pretty much. Just depends on what you like the taste of better. Personally I have never had the "strengthening" effect of OJ or any other citrus more than the tea or anything.
I dont see much difference in them. But for sure the warm/cold liquid shroom drink def. makes it a quicker come up, and also a more intense, quick trip.
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: MindFood]
#7444282 - 09/23/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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david_8956 said: If you want a shorter trip then I would suggest powdering the mushrooms first, and let them soak in lemon juice for 10 minutes before consuming. This will make the trip shorter but also more intense, so just use less mushrooms than you normally would. I'd think for the trip your looking for try around a half 1/8th using the lemon juice method.
what does the lemon juice do?
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: vm711]
#7444306 - 09/23/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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vm711 said:
.... it's just that I felt towards the end that "this is lasting too long" and "im never doing this again. why am I taking drugs to begin with?"
.... Then I just started dwelling on how life is pointless, kind of in a typical cheesy philosophical way. Sometimes I dwell on religion and whether or not there is a god too...
Good questions to be asking yourself. I think its really personal, but you should be asking yourself those questions, to see if it really makes sense for you to do any drugs in the first place if you are not getting anything from the experience except just doing them for the fuck of it.
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vm711 said: ..... I remember time going by incredibly slow at one point. ...... what seemed like a half hour and I looked back at the time, 3 minutes had gone by. Really odd
..... really enjoyed the first 2 or 3 hours of my experience. That's why I'm asking ideas on how to achieve that, so I can give it a shot in a couple months when i'm ready again.
Many of the psychedelics are time-bending like this, so our concept of time can be very warped and time can slow down or even stop during trips. No biggie, happens all the time.
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vm711 said: ..... really enjoyed the first 2 or 3 hours of my experience. That's why I'm asking ideas on how to achieve that, so I can give it a shot in a couple months when i'm ready again.
Cool. Good luck. I gotta sign off, but if you want to discuss this further with me, just PM me, and well talk.
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: vm711]
#7444377 - 09/23/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe you hate school and work because it obviously has to cut into your music time.
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vm711
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: AlCapwn]
#7446717 - 09/24/07 06:28 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks again for all the input, I really appreciate it. You guys are very helpful.
I don't think the only reason to take this drug is for personal discovery, and I'm not sure what you mean by taking it for the "fuck of it" but I definetly enjoy the effects of the drug and the way it makes me see everything (in a visual sense, not in an answer to life's questions sense). It would be great if on one of my future trips I found one of those answers and discovered something about myself, but that's not really what I'm shooting for, I do them for a good time. Alot of it was great too. I just need to shorten it and see if that helps. I think this drug is certainly worth experimenting with, even if it means another uncomfortable experience. I've also come to realize, from the intensity of the trip, that they need to be spaced out, and I can't see myself taking them more than every couple months.
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: vm711]
#7446753 - 09/24/07 07:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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*steps onto soapbox*
You complain about the length of time the effects are, maybe that's indicative of your potential disappointment in yourself. Rather than focusing on the subjectively beautiful experience shrooming provides and accepting it in its entirety, you'd rather control it like a CD and skip to a different track when you don't like the song, or turn off the CD when you don't like the band.
Be careful. For many people that polarization of experiences into "bad and good" transfers to themselves. They aren't tolerant to their own weaknesses, and that self-deprication often spreads.
What happens if life takes "too long"? I hope you'll learn to yield a little better to things before you get old. Would you like to be 95 years old, laying in bed wondering when "this will just get over with?"
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: Too Vanilla]
#7446797 - 09/24/07 07:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmmm... So in other words, having a beautiful on mushrooms is a result of being 100% satisfied and comfortable with yourself, and a negative/uncomfortable reflection on life only involves dissapointment in yourself? There are no other factors that may have influenced my trip turning sour?
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Too Vanilla
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: vm711]
#7447133 - 09/24/07 09:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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There are always variables and factors that could potentially change the state of things.
Its how well you tolerate and adjust to these variables that determine the comfort of the trip.
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: Too Vanilla]
#7447442 - 09/24/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Too Vanilla said: There are always variables and factors that could potentially change the state of things.
Its how well you tolerate and adjust to these variables that determine the comfort of the trip.
Good point. And I like that used the word "yielding" in relation to the experience.
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Re: My trip and your suggestions... [Re: gmuralid]
#7447619 - 09/24/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The drug is just making everything clear to you. Work, school, and pretty much everything associated with our civilization is pointless.
It is all how you interpret it.
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