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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7447135 - 09/24/07 09:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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"What drew me to psychology was the idea of applying the mind to understand our own consciousness. The root word "psyche" means spirit or soul, which I take as descriptors of consciousness and motivation."
Modern Shamans for sure. Some.
Psychiatrists.
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7447139 - 09/24/07 10:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aw, come on! Can't we have just a wee bit of fluff?
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Pile it ON Orgone. I'll help water the lawn.
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MarkostheGnostic said: It is (still) laughing at those who run from the worksite on Friday afternoons because fulfillment is 'out there' somewhere, perhaps in some Happy Hour, but not here & now in a now-quiet, lucid, empty middle school building whence one can just mosey on home.
Congratulations. How very altruistic of you.
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7447636 - 09/24/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, mental exploration with different perspectives, labels, contexts and even 'laws'. Kind of 'fluffy' under certain (even abstract) circumstances 
Fluffyness is REAL !
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7447787 - 09/24/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Veritas said: To me, religion and spirituality appear to have little to do with one another. Those who would claim that atheists/agnostics are not spiritual people are expressing a narrow definition of the term.
What drew me to psychology was the idea of applying the mind to understand our own consciousness. The root word "psyche" means spirit or soul, which I take as descriptors of consciousness and motivation. When I turn inward and explore my own consciousness, that is spiritual. When I reach outward and share the fruits of my explorations, that is spiritual. When I listen and question and test and try the expressions of others, that is spiritual.
So, yes, we definitely discuss spiritual matters here. Spirituality is the heart of this forum, while philosophy is the mind. Philosophy proposes how we might best structure our lives, and spirituality connects us with our most-authentic selves. No supernatural deities need be involved, no arcane rituals, no woo-woo, no fluff.
You're so cool.
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Icelander]
#7448169 - 09/24/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess it depends if the poster, at the time of posting, is posting directly from the heart or from the mind. Can a discerning mind tell? Or is it all in the way it's received?
Philosophy = fluff IMO Religion and Spirituality have little to do with one another, but Religion and Philosophy are not too far apart, both require willed belief (faith) in an authority. Even if one claims to not be an authority, you would need to have faith to believe this claim.
But belief is not a bad thing, we all have beliefs. We communicate on this forum and believe each other not just because we seek to create spiritual communion, or seek something which we don't have, but also to affirm our already existing spiritual truths.
So this is definitely a spiritual board, where we share love and truth, I have decided.
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Religion and Philosophy are not too far apart, both require willed belief (faith) in an authority. Even if one claims to not be an authority, you would need to have faith to believe this claim.
This does not make sense to me. Are you referring to the acceptance of some particular, pre-established system of philosophy? I think the point of philosophy is to read the ideas that some great thinkers have proposed, formulate some of your own, then take what works for you. This requires no faith, and it is the farthest thing from fluffy.
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7448302 - 09/24/07 04:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hehehe, for those you took the partial ideas from, you may seem like fluffy or 'in your faith'
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: BlueCoyote]
#7448305 - 09/24/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Fluffy" in P&S slang, refers to that which is without substance, or which cannot sustain life, like cotton candy. If it is mostly air and sugar, it's not good philosophy.
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7448320 - 09/24/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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cotton candy can make one happy. It's for those who lost desire in eating, imho. It rises the appetite.
Same with fluff in philosophy, imho. The appetite in life and its experimental exploration.
[Psyche=air=fantasy=philosophy (for me) Based in existence, which is the same (or at least very similar) as our physical reality.]
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7448322 - 09/24/07 04:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Veriticus is very fluffy. 
"I am Veriticus!" ~ some unknown slave
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: BlueCoyote]
#7448331 - 09/24/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cotton candy, and the philosophical equivalent, has no nutritive value & repeated use depletes your system. If one's appetite for life has waned, they would do better to pursue solid nourishment, and not sticky pink stuff.
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7448334 - 09/24/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Someone who refutes eating can be brought to appetite with cotton candy, at least. And if I am fed up, even cotton candy can make me happy.
No cotton candy for you anymore !
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: BlueCoyote]
#7448338 - 09/24/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Each to his/her own, I suppose. I prefer to keep my philosophical "teeth" strong and healthy, without the decay promoted by fluffy treats.
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7448341 - 09/24/07 04:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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You will miss it, once its value is proven 
I still own all my 4 thingsy teeth btw, still
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: BlueCoyote]
#7448344 - 09/24/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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If it has value, then it is not fluffy.
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7448355 - 09/24/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Perhaps it's a non direct perceivable value, but is all the more precious instead
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: BlueCoyote]
#7448418 - 09/24/07 05:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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As I said, each to his/her own.
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Re: Spirituality And This Forum [Re: Veritas]
#7448425 - 09/24/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah, you can't tell me that you don't enjoy fairy floss from time to time. Else, uh, it might really just be yourself
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