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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7479506 - 10/03/07 01:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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:madhamster:


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The best way to live
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For water benefits all things
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It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: stellar renegade]
    #7479542 - 10/03/07 01:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That would make our lifes here on earth absolute worthless and we could do whatever we want here.
So let's start to have some REAL fun and built up some material egocentric power and exploit and enslave the world and its inhabitants, whatever we can get a grip on, to make us feel really good and great, to pass that 'boring' and 'worthless' waiting time on this worthless planet with worthless people and worthless live ?
And that's exactly, what all false religions have done, are doing and will do, ever.
:hellfire:

G*D's' grace is, to allow (give the possibility for) the human to change...and experience LOVE.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7479553 - 10/03/07 02:02 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Let's all get a grip on perspective and realize that God, any god, wants to be the biggest fish in the pond.

small town politics.


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7480746 - 10/03/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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That would make our lifes here on earth absolute worthless and we could do whatever we want here.
So let's start to have some REAL fun and built up some material egocentric power and exploit and enslave the world and its inhabitants, whatever we can get a grip on, to make us feel really good and great, to pass that 'boring' and 'worthless' waiting time on this worthless planet with worthless people and worthless live ?
And that's exactly, what all false religions have done, are doing and will do, ever.
:hellfire:

G*D's' grace is, to allow (give the possibility for) the human to change...and experience LOVE.



Well, I completely agree.  And what I'm trying to tell fivepointer is that as long as one is imprisoned, all are.  In fact, those in control may be worse off than the ones they try to control.  It is not good to be selfish.  It is even worse for there to be a God who decides who gets to be unselfish and who doesn't.  And I'm hoping fivepointer doesn't think that decision is arbitrary.

All will be saved from their selfishness by both their own sickness of it and by God's extraordinary grace working through every circumstance around them.  The universe demands an absolute end to evil, and will have it, one way or another.

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Let's all get a grip on perspective and realize that God, any god, wants to be the biggest fish in the pond.

small town politics.



That is, if God is someone outside of us and not someone who shares our essential being, and we his.


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"To believe in the wide-awake real, through all the stupefying, enervating, distorting dream: to will to wake, when the very being seems athirst for godless repose: these are the broken steps up to the high fields where repose is but a form of strength, strength but a form of joy, joy but a form of love." -George MacDonald


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: stellar renegade]
    #7482090 - 10/03/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If riding (w)horses and slaughtering pigs is the favorite pastime of gods one can understand their disinclination to reveal the fact.


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Booby]
    #7483680 - 10/04/07 02:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

lulz


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"To believe in the wide-awake real, through all the stupefying, enervating, distorting dream: to will to wake, when the very being seems athirst for godless repose: these are the broken steps up to the high fields where repose is but a form of strength, strength but a form of joy, joy but a form of love." -George MacDonald


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Booby]
    #7484244 - 10/04/07 09:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Booby said:
Let's all get a grip on perspective and realize that God, any god, wants to be the biggest fish in the pond.

small town politics.




do you mean that god is basically one of many memes.. in a game of survival of the fittest?


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7485664 - 10/04/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Booby said:
Let's all get a grip on perspective and realize that God, any god, wants to be the biggest fish in the pond.

small town politics.




do you mean that god is basically one of many memes.. in a game of survival of the fittest?




A moderator has expressed an inclination to lock this thread. I assume the status quo to be a reflection of the current regime in that if the gods were modeled after Mafia Bosses they wouldn't care to openly discuss their innermost motivations. I can respect that.

My dog shit on the rug. She expected reprisal. she's trying but if I don't pick up on her nuances she is going to shit on the rug.

A dog might expect punishment, since that is the rational expectation. Bliss then could be viewed as the product of a weak mind, irrational.

Thankyou for the parameters for an introspection; if I arrive at anything resembling an opinion i might air them, perhaps in another thread.


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: stellar renegade]
    #7485867 - 10/04/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

To stellar renegade,

Your doctrines have no foundation in scripture and oppose the true gospel. You can not make things up as you go along and find any truth. Truth is in the scripture, not in what seems "right". Hope you will see this some day.


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Booby]
    #7486016 - 10/04/07 06:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

:talkingtowall:


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: fivepointer]
    #7486050 - 10/04/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

The Holy Spirit permanently indwells every believer. I currently always have knowledge of the Spirit's presence and this didn’t exist before my conversion.

Sounds like psychosis or something. You might want to have that checked out.


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Icelander]
    #7486803 - 10/04/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ok dude, no personal comments please.

Booby: Conflicting opinions are allowed, personal criticisms are not. I know the line is fuzzy, thus this thread remains open. Express your objective and impersonal opinions freely.


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Middleman]
    #7488342 - 10/05/07 01:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry, thought I was in Physical and Mental.:crazy2:


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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: Icelander]
    #7510333 - 10/11/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7510530 - 10/11/07 08:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Calling the Ungodly - Good News [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7513709 - 10/13/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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do you mean that god is basically one of many memes.. in a game of survival of the fittest?




Yes, it is the most persistent, rugged, and downright hysteria-producing meme in the noosphere. It would survive till the end come for humanity


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Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
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