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THE KRAT BARON
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UFC 76
#7440997 - 09/22/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Chuck Liddell vs. Keith Jardine
Mauricio Rua vs. Forrest Griffin
Jon Fitch vs. Diego Sanchez
Thiago Tavares vs. Tyson Griffin
Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Lyoto Machida
Diego Saraiva vs. Jeremy Stephens
Scott Junk vs. Christian Wellisch
Michihiro Omigawa vs. Matt Wiman
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Chuck Liddell vs. Keith Jardine
Mauricio Rua vs. Forrest Griffin
Jon Fitch vs. Diego Sanchez
Thiago Tavares vs. Tyson Griffin
Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Lyoto Machida
Diego Saraiva vs. Jeremy Stephens
Scott Junk vs. Christian Wellisch
Michihiro Omigawa vs. Matt Wiman
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Jadian]
#7441426 - 09/22/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Chuck Liddell vs. Keith Jardine
Mauricio Rua vs. Forrest Griffin
Jon Fitch vs. Diego Sanchez
Thiago Tavares vs. Tyson Griffin
Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Lyoto Machida
Diego Saraiva vs. Jeremy Stephens
Scott Junk vs. Christian Wellisch
Michihiro Omigawa vs. Matt Wiman
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Jadian]
#7441978 - 09/22/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fitch is the man
And Forest pulling out a submission?! Amazing!
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Jadian]
#7442027 - 09/22/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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wow i'm speachless
woooowwww shogun gets choked out. wow.
there goes the rankings
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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Jadian]
#7442031 - 09/22/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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What exactly happened to Shogun? How did he fight 10 minute first rounds over in Pride? This makes no sense to me.
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wow what a cluster fuck?!
fucking crazy how he gassed. i knew something was up when he went for the first take down.
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Jadian]
#7442118 - 09/22/07 10:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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That fight was pretty crazy too. Hell of a sport we find ourselves involved in.
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Jadian]
#7442243 - 09/22/07 11:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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wow everyone is going so crazy over this. All shogun needs is to get his cardio back.Chuck was overrated to begin with.
Still LHW is crazy there's still so many fighers in other orgs,soku,arona,lil nog and many others.
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shogun embarassed himself. there were internet reports out of chute boxe he wasnt training for this fight and wasnt taking it seriously. also he supposedly he ballooned to a pretty big weight and had to cut a shitload of fat. obviously he fucked up on his cardio, BAD. the guy was wining until he gassed so completely. i hope shogun learned his lesson
liddell is over, finished!
machida is looking more and more legit. he actually wins, and NOBDY can hit that crafty mother fucker. i dont care if he runs, he's un-punchable.
tavares got robbed imo
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Very fun card to watch. The forest vs shogun was my favourite fight obviously. I also really enjoyed tavares vs griffin. Anyone who thinks tavares won that fight is seriously kidding themselves.
So much for big knockouts on this card though
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Spooge]
#7443945 - 09/23/07 12:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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are there any online links for the forrest/shogun fight?
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Syle]
#7444121 - 09/23/07 01:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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wanderlei was so pissed chuck lost...especially after seeing all it took was leg kicks and body kicks to put him out
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THE KRAT BARON
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So whats going on with Fedor, Is he coming over to the UFC or not? They hinted towards it on the British spike tv show but is there official word yet?
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Spooge]
#7444295 - 09/23/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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They should rematch every one of those decisions and make the fighters put some intensity into it.
I don't want to see strategy damnit I want intense, reckless, bloodshed
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Jadian]
#7444868 - 09/23/07 05:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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anyone have an online location that this fight can be viewed at?
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Syle]
#7445062 - 09/23/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Syle
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thanks for the link!
and holy cow, forrest is a badass scrapper. he's got heart man.
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sorry man but at no point in that fight was shogun winning
I think its hard for these guys that are used to going 10 the first to get used to going full blast for 5 rather than getting the usual couple of minutes of feel out time to get started
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i am by no means a UFC expert, but it just seemed like shogun was outfought? outhustled?
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Syle]
#7447100 - 09/24/07 09:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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don't need to be an expert to see that
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yah i know, i was just saying that excuses for shogun are not deserved, he just got flat out beat. and my post was sort of for all.
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: Syle]
#7447526 - 09/24/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shogun won the first round and then gassed completely. He didn't look very good even in the first round, did enough to win it though.
Oh well, shit happens
rudimar needs to change something up at chute boxe, can't help that the team seems to be drifting apart again.
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: d33p]
#7447718 - 09/24/07 01:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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you might want to watch the first round again
shogun takes forrest down 3 times - griffin takes shogun down twice and takes his back both time while landing strikes
shogun didn't land any punishment in any take down
griffin started the mouse of shoguns forhead in the first as well
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no i do know forrest outworked him the entire fight
shogun looked like crap. It was shocking, especially for me, after seeing him dominate so many great fighters (including rampage), to just get mangled the way he did.
forrest came out with a solid gameplan, and just kept up the pace throughout the fight.
Seeing him gas like that was surprising....like he didn't even train for this fight.
Someone whose used to fighting a 10 minute round gassing after 2 5 minute rounds....something's wrong there.
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mean is from butte - he won
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you have all the right to rag on me and my pride nuthuggery now
the MMA world as we've known it, has come crashing down.
Shit, even Jardine over Liddell is frickin...unbelievable.
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no its not - mean is from butte
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yeah it is dude
Jardine choosing to stand with chuck using his wierd chimp style boxing....and not getting KOed.
Liddell couldn't even check his leg kicks...
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Quote:
sucklesworth said: you might want to watch the first round again
shogun takes forrest down 3 times - griffin takes shogun down twice and takes his back both time while landing strikes
shogun didn't land any punishment in any take down
griffin started the mouse of shoguns forhead in the first as well

here's a quick rundown
When shogun gives up his back to roll into a knee bar/guard to escape to his feet or a more advantageous position that is effective grappling. Taking risks is rewarded by judges. Griffen never held shogun's back for more than a few seconds and the hammer fists he landed were not effective strikes. Shogun held Griffen on the ground for around 2 minutes of the first round and landed a few decent shots, better than anything Griffen had. The takdowns were in the favor of Shogun.
The stand up was close with Shogun landing slightly more effective strikes imo although Griffen landed the best two shots. Neither did much.
Shogun was clearly the aggressor.
Comparatively, Shogun looked like shit right from the beginning and Forrest looked good but that doesn't automatically make Griffen the winner of the round. This is a mistake is made by many people.
Still, it's really disappointing how bad shogun looked. His punching was unusually slow, where his speed usually allows his unorthodox style to be more effective. He didn't attempt to clinch or trip much at all, which is understandable due to forrest's size advantage but I think it is not smart for chute boxe fighters to completely abandon their strong point because of this.
Whatever may be the reason for his poor performance (under training, steroids, sickness) hopefully he'll get everything in check for his next fight and come back strong.
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Re: UFC 76 [Re: d33p]
#7448673 - 09/24/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I thought shogun won the first too. Seriously anyone could have beat shogun that night.A top 5 fighter would have ended it the first round.
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shogun got beat..but he gassed he won the first round, if u know how mma is scored count the takedowns, count the strikes and count agression shogun clearly had more takedowns, landed strikes and was more agressive try watching the fight with no announcing..for some reason rogan and goldie didnt acknowledge any of the few strikes shogun landed anyway no excuse for his though...he quickly gassed and dropped the las 2 rounds then actually got RNCed
griffin didnt really even look that great...shogun looked that bad
liddell is completely overrated and it finally came out any decent striker they throw against him will beat him he's like crocop, mma has passed him by...u cant be that one dimensional anymore and in chuck's case, his striking was never even as good as crocop's he just had some really unnatural power however jardine found the key kick the leg he pushes of with..its a great gameplan against a 1 dimensional puncher.. using your legs and hips is very very important..kill the leg chuck needs, he loses 50% of his punching power guess we know who would have won chuck vs wand right, lol...no wonder wand was so sad, all it would have taken was leg kicks...i think wand kicks harder than keith also rumor is chuck fights shogun next now...hopefully the shogun just uses the same game plan. take out his legs and go for the kill
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don't worry skott, the pride guys will get with it sooner or later
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