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Anonymous #1

The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?)
    #7440128 - 09/22/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Tal!

There is a traditional image that the man should go out into the world and hunt/gather/work to advance the family, and that the woman should stay at home to tend after the homestead and more importantly, raise the children.

After the rise of feminism since the 1960s this kind of thing has become a taboo.

But might there be truth to this somehow? Would there be a basis in the nature of humans that could justify this thought?

No trolling, a serious question here.
The Man goes to work and the Woman stays at home?
You may choose only one


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Anonymous #2

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7440178 - 09/22/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Meh...people can do whatever the fuck they want and I don't care. If some chick wants to remain childless and advance through the corporate world to make a bunch of money...who cares? If a guy decides to stay at home with the kids...who cares? If a man and a woman choose to be more "traditional" and have the guy work and the woman stay at home...then who cares?

We focus too much on sexual roles and such. Do whatever the hell you want to do.


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Anonymous #3

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #7440315 - 09/22/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Confident women with backbones turn me on. Especially if they don't berate me for having a penis.


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Anonymous #4

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7440336 - 09/22/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The problem is tradition. Tradition doesn't get us anywhere besides back where our ignorant ancestors started. Once people break out of that mold we might get somewhere as a human race. Until then we're stuck with religious zealots and moderates of every flavor spouting off about some arcane societal structure.


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Anonymous #2

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7440345 - 09/22/07 12:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
The problem is tradition. Tradition doesn't get us anywhere besides back where our ignorant ancestors started. Once people break out of that mold we might get somewhere as a human race. Until then we're stuck with religious zealots and moderates of every flavor spouting off about some arcane societal structure.




Yet another girl who will never get married and die old and bitter.


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Anonymous #5

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #7440364 - 09/22/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
Yet another girl who will never get married and die old and bitter.



how very true indeed  :yesnod:


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Anonymous #1

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #7440597 - 09/22/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

In my opinion..

I believe most women would be happiest in this framework and I think it would work best for most men also. It certainly would work for the children.

In some relationships the individual traits are such that it might be best if the woman earned the bread and the guy stays home to bake it :wink: but I think the general trend is towards the "traditional" model.

I also believe many women would be happiest that way, if emancipation hadn't confused them. And there would be nothing wrong with it, as long as it isn't mandatory.



What I truly despise is a couple who have young children, who could get by on one income, but who choose to both chase a fulltime job, and who basically move their kids around from school to daycare to bed. I absolutely loathe that. Either at least one of the parents (regardless which one) raises the kids, or you don't have kids at all.
Expensive toys cannot replace love, and cannot buy it either.

The kids get raised by institutions because mom & dad think money is more important :crankey:

Part of why society is going down is because the kids who weren't raised in the 80s and 90s now have children of their own. What values have they themselves learned to teach their offspring? Will they even bother?


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Anonymous #6

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7440614 - 09/22/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i will say fuck it to gender roles and be a stay at home dad, with no kids and a vasectomy


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Anonymous #1

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #7440621 - 09/22/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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a stay at home dad, with no kids and a vasectomy





You could go halfway, have kids but give them a vasectomy so they won't touch themselves :awesome:


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Anonymous #5

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7440649 - 09/22/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

basically all it is is a generation of children who are 'raised' believing that their only purpose in life is to get a job and become a productive member of society...and that the family unit itself is no longer a part of the equation

they are simply a bi-product of their parents desire to fuck, and they are basically just a 'problem' that will hopefully clear up on it's own without too much 'taking care of' (i.e. hopefully they'll move out on their own just as soon as they can, and hopefully they won't interfere with the parents personal lives too much while they are there, and god forbid they ever come back once they're gone)

what this is leading up to is children equality...in exactly the same way that women stood up for their own rights to be seen as equals as men - the next phase will be children demanding to be treated as adults

and in the end - we will all simply be born / learn how to fend for ourselves / move on to be masters of our own universes / and occassionally pop out a child of our own, and watch over em just until they can fend for their damned selves

it'll be like in nature when the mother bird boots the babys outta the nest  :yesnod:


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Anonymous #4

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #7440782 - 09/22/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
Quote:

Anonymous said:
The problem is tradition. Tradition doesn't get us anywhere besides back where our ignorant ancestors started. Once people break out of that mold we might get somewhere as a human race. Until then we're stuck with religious zealots and moderates of every flavor spouting off about some arcane societal structure.




Yet another girl who will never get married and die old and bitter.




Another girl? Sorry, try again. I am a man, I will never get married, and yet I do not plan to die old, bitter, and alone. Maybe if your conditioned mind could wrap itself around concepts involving consenting adults living a happy, peaceful life without outdated and unnecessary contracts you could be more accepting of various lifestyles.


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Anonymous #7

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7440852 - 09/22/07 03:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

And maybe if you were a bit more fucking accepting of various lifestyles and didn't push YOUR ideas of what is right on others you would realize that there is nothing wrong with a man working and a woman staying at home, just as there is nothing wrong with any other possible living situation that doesn't involve neglecting a child.

Both working or the man staying home and the woman working is no more fucking advanced or progressive than man work woman home, so long as that is what both parties have agreed would be the best course.


That mindset of yours is precisely what is wrong with liberalism and the democratic party in america, and what doomed the feminist movement to being considered crazy fucking bitches -- which is largely what they developed into, once they moved from a "woman are equal" mentality to a "WOMYN FIRST!" mentality.

Tard.


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Anonymous #4

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #7440889 - 09/22/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Assumption is all we have to go on in these forums. But I find it amusing that you think of me as a Democrat.

As well, I was not pushing my beliefs on anybody. I was simply stating my opinions on life, marriage, and companionships between adults. If you were referring to my "Once people break out of that mold we might get somewhere as a human race" comment as pushing my beliefs onto someone else you are mistaken. That simply means when people break out of the mold of only accepting a one-man-one-woman contractual marriage the human race will be better for itself.

So I fail to see where I am pushing my values on other people. I am merely ranting about the lack of understanding and acceptance towards other lifestyles whether they be heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, multi-partner, or whatever else consenting adults care to do.


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Anonymous #8

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7440928 - 09/22/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This stereotype probably formed out of natural tendencies. Some people want to rebel against this "image" but many willingly embrace it.


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Anonymous #9

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #7440951 - 09/22/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

They want equality but they don't want to have to pay the price for it. Women still go for powerful successful men with money and cars instead of making it on their own.

When was the last time you heard of a man choosing a mate because she was rich? Yeah so it does happen but its fucking rare.
I want to murder all the women at my work. There arent a lot of them but most of them are married to rich guys or some VP at work.


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Anonymous #5

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #7440976 - 09/22/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

women are money grubby by nature though...they know that men are weak and easy to please, and they know that there's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have their cake and eat it too

women have infinately more power over men, and they learned long ago that if they simply simply spread their legs for someone - then they can expect pretty much anything in return...so why not shoot for the moon, eh


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Anonymous #4

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #7440996 - 09/22/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
women are money grubby by nature though...they know that men are weak and easy to please, and they know that there's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't have their cake and eat it too

women have infinately more power over men, and they learned long ago that if they simply simply spread their legs for someone - then they can expect pretty much anything in return...so why not shoot for the moon, eh




You must be surrounded by very weak-minded men. Women only have this "power" that you speak of because men let them have it, and not by choice. It's also a product of the sexually charged society we live in.

I feel sorry for whatever men you surround yourself with for having such a weak mind and letting women manipulate them. Unless that's what they're in to. That would be the case with a few guys I know and I no longer am friends with them because of how unstable they are emotionally and psychologically.


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Anonymous #8

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7441030 - 09/22/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
You must be surrounded by very weak-minded men. Women only have this "power" that you speak of because men let them have it, and not by choice. It's also a product of the sexually charged society we live in.

I feel sorry for whatever men you surround yourself with for having such a weak mind and letting women manipulate them. Unless that's what they're in to. That would be the case with a few guys I know and I no longer am friends with them because of how unstable they are emotionally and psychologically.




Definetly true.

Women seek security and the ability to provide for them. If you can provide this the tables turn. Successful, wealthy men realize this.


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Anonymous #5

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #7441031 - 09/22/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

nah...I'm pretty sure all men are like that when you get right down to it  :yesnod:


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Anonymous #5

Re: The Male Chauvinist Pig Thread (or is it?) [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #7441040 - 09/22/07 04:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

pah-lease...even rich men get pussy whipped  :rolleyes:


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