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OfflineShr00mFrancisco
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ID: two strains from Nor Cal
    #7438288 - 09/21/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I grabbed someone's advice and posted my pics on mushroomobserver. Any possible id's or recommendations gladly appreciated. Rookie picker!
Spore prints are in the works.
http://mushroomobserver.org/4159


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: Shr00mFrancisco]
    #7438323 - 09/21/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i guess there is no need to have a new camera what is really nedd are the resolution and that when you took the picture the mushrroms is not out of focus , your pict 1 and 2 look like panneolus subalteatus , i do´tknow 3 , chao


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: cactu]
    #7438712 - 09/21/07 10:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

3 could be an Agrocybe or Stropharia or Hebeloma or something.

1 could be Panaeolus subbalteatus, but it could be something else.

Clearer pictures are required, try to get ahold of a real digital camera.

When you get the mushrooms home, take spore prints.


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: Shr00mFrancisco]
    #7438745 - 09/21/07 11:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Shr00mFrancisco said:
I grabbed someone's advice and posted my pics on mushroomobserver. Any possible id's or recommendations gladly appreciated. Rookie picker!
Spore prints are in the works.
http://mushroomobserver.org/4159




hey man, im from the bay too. Dont expect to find much in the way of actives around here till at least halloween.

Untill then type bay area in the search at the bottom of the forum and study the pics. theres a bunch of threads from past seasons.


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: Shr00mFrancisco]
    #7440027 - 09/22/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Upload to shroomery, shroomery is the ONLY place to hot your mushroom files (in my opinion) plus i hate clicking outside the page


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: implee]
    #7440221 - 09/22/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

> Upload to shroomery, shroomery is the ONLY place to hot your mushroom files (in my opinion) plus i hate clicking outside the page


The Shroomery is a less than ideal place to host mushroom pictures for two reasons.

1) They chop the picture down to a small size if you are not a supporter, losing many of the fine details that are necessary for identification.

2) If you look at any old threads (2002, etc), all the pictures that were hosted on shroomery are missing. Maybe they had a drive crash and had no backups, or an upgrade didn't go as planned.


No one wants to click outside the page, so the best thing to do is to host them somewhere that is permanent and fast, then use IMG tags to include the pictures in your message. No one will complain about offsite hosting if you include the pictures right in the message, and it helps conserve the shroomery's bandwidth.

No matter where you host your pictures, don't delete them ever. The blue morel pics and many others have been lost.


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7440308 - 09/22/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The people on mushroomobserver suggested that its Panaeolina foenisecii, another good guess.

They also gave some good camera tips which I'll paste in here so everyone sees them:

"The actual photos aren’t bad, it looks like the camera can do fine. But you are letting it decide the focus on the shot, and you have the mushrooms held up in front of a much more distant background.
This is a common problem in shooting mushrooms, where you have small things in front of more distant big things. The camera will use its autofocus to get as much in focus as possible, which will mean focusing on the background, giving you blurry photos of the mushrooms.
You can fix this by turning off autofocus. Or forcing the focus by having the auto focus fix on something larger, like your hand, at the same distance as the mushroom, then remove the larger thing, and take the shot. Or not hold up the mushrooms in front of a distant background, but place your mushrooms directly on the background, like a table. But even then, if your focal plane is narrow, it can be hard to get the camera to focus on the right thing.
I have a 2 year old camera, and I have all these same problems. Just something you have to keep in mind for pretty much all mushroom photos."


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7440341 - 09/22/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My pictures are big, and detailed so im not sure i know what you mean... I know theres a limit, but still it shows fine detail


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: implee]
    #7440359 - 09/22/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

> My pictures are big, and detailed so im not sure i know what you mean... I know theres a limit, but still it shows fine detail

Thats true, yours look pretty good. I thought it reduced them more than that.


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7440757 - 09/22/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You always gotta burn them to CD's still though.. Hard drives can corrupt/gobad/get a virus so Cd's are peoples only hopes =-O


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: implee]
    #7454263 - 09/26/07 01:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Spore print is black, does that change anything?


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Re: ID: two strains from Nor Cal [Re: Shr00mFrancisco]
    #7455121 - 09/26/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If it is truly black then those are probably Panaeolus Subbalteatus.
However it should be absolutely jet black.

I've started looking at mine through a loop made for stamp inspecting i believe. You just set it down on the print and it really helps. No squinting. You can also try laying a piece of printer paper with sme printing on it next to the spore print, when looked at through the loop it is very obvious.

Just a couple suggestions that have helped my middle aged eyes.


Edited by El Zorro (09/26/07 10:53 AM)


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