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OfflineBlueCoyote
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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: Icelander]
    #7447872 - 09/24/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think, all this death anxiety stuff is super fluous, because if one is dead, one either doesn't experience anything anymore, or one experiences everything absolutely different. In no way one's experience will be directly connected through the dead bodys' sensations, because it produces no internal sensations anymore.
So, there is no reason to be afraid of death, because we will experience it different, if at all.

You mean 'Dying-Anxiety'. But as long as we live, we are not totally dead, only in specific contexts (see other threads) :lol:

You're a Dead Man already ?


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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7447965 - 09/24/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I also think it is a mistake
you can be afraid of things working badly.
it's real, shows you care.

and you can be terminated without resolving something you care about resolving.
and so it seems a discomfort about the whole issue.

but really we have to see that nothing is ever resolved though causes can be furthered (in good works).

this is not to say life is meaningless, because meaning is not about resolutions. meaning is from likenesses, resonance, layers in synchrony, music and form, like dance.

and the dance goes on.

if you appreciate dance in this way
the gestalt dance all about us
then you will have no fear of unresolved life:

over time you will be sucked into the air or sucked into the ground
the last steps are easy
and the dance will continue with that and after that.


will they applaud? (stage fright?)

some lasting things can be tried...
art to dance now and later
gardens to dance now and later
waterworks that benefit life to dance now and later
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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: Icelander]
    #7448132 - 09/24/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

that nothing is ever resolved though causes can be furthered

Seems so.


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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: Icelander]
    #7460357 - 09/27/07 01:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i think all our belief systems are motivated by our fear of the unknown. NOBODY knows anything including what comes after our deaths. and everyone is just trying to explain it away to make the situation more comfortable.

in light of this all you can say is hakuna matata(no worries) and try to live by this


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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: evolprim]
    #7460439 - 09/27/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

NOBODY knows anything including what comes after our deaths.




NOBODY says, "Your body decomposes back into its constituent parts. This fact is verifiable by anyone. Any information stored in the neuronal array is lost forever."


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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7460729 - 09/27/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You mean Lost in Space Will Robinson?


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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: evolprim]
    #7460740 - 09/27/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

evolprim said:
i think all our belief systems are motivated by our fear of the unknown. NOBODY knows anything including what comes after our deaths. and everyone is just trying to explain it away to make the situation more comfortable.

in light of this all you can say is hakuna matata(no worries) and try to live by this





Sanginalanga (no worries in Fiji, although I spelled it phonetically:tongue:)


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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: Icelander]
    #7460742 - 09/27/07 02:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Nope, im not because if im dead i really wont care about it.


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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: Alion]
    #7460751 - 09/27/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Your post doesn't make sense as it's the fear of dying I'm talking about and this happens before death.:tongue:


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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: Icelander]
    #7462290 - 09/27/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

isn't it always just a bit before death?


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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7464043 - 09/28/07 11:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm in my mid-20's and I already feel old.

I'd say I'm much more afraid of the constant pain and deterioration that age will bring than I am afraid of death.

at least death is painless. you can't say the same thing about life.


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Re: Afraid of dying? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7464616 - 09/28/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

no, why would it be?


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