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Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police
#7436521 - 09/21/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Had she misstepped one little bit, the police would have justifiably filled her with bullets, and the chorus of police brutality would have started their song once again.
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MIT Student Arrested With Fake Bomb
By GLEN JOHNSON – 45 minutes ago
BOSTON (AP) — An MIT student wearing what turned out to be a fake bomb was arrested at gunpoint Friday at Logan International Airport and later claimed it was artwork, officials said.
Star Simpson, 19, had a computer circuit board and wiring in plain view over a black hooded sweatshirt she was wearing, said State Police Maj. Scott Pare, the commanding officer at the airport.
"She said that it was a piece of art and she wanted to stand out on career day," Pare said at a news conference. "She claims that it was just art, and that she was proud of the art and she wanted to display it."
Simpson was charged with disturbing the peace and possessing a hoax device. A not guilty plea was entered for her and she was released on $750 bail.
During the hearing, Simpson smiled as she entered wearing a T-shirt and sandals. After she posted bail, she left in a taxi with a man who identified himself as her boyfriend, but neither would answer more questions from reporters.
Prosecutor Wayne Margolis had requested $5,000 bail, saying Simpson showed a total disregard for the situation she was in — an airport after the 2001 terrorist attacks.
Ross Schreiber, who was appointed to represent Simpson, said she was not a risk to flee, was a good student with no prior convictions and she cooperated with authorities.
He said she had gone to the airport to meet her boyfriend. "She was there for legitimate purposes," Schreiber said.
Simpson was "extremely lucky she followed the instructions or deadly force would have been used," Pare said. "She's lucky to be in a cell as opposed to the morgue."
Simpson is a Massachusetts Institute of Technology sophomore from Hawaii, officials said.
The battery-powered rectangular device had nine flashing lights, and Simpson had Play-Doh in her hands, Pare said.
The phrases "Socket to me" and "Course VI" were written on the back of her sweatshirt, which authorities displayed to the media. Course VI appears to refer to MIT's major of electrical engineering and computer science.
Simpson was a member of MIT's swimming and diving team in 2006, according to the team's Web site, which lists her hometown as Kihei, Hawaii. MIT spokeswoman Patti Richards said aside from confirming she was a student, the school did not have any comment.
She was arrested about 8 a.m. outside Terminal C, home to United Airlines, Jet Blue and other carriers.
A Massachusetts Port Authority staffer manning an information booth in the terminal became suspicious when Simpson — wearing the device — approached to ask about an incoming flight, Pare said. Simpson then walked outside, and the staffer notified a nearby trooper.
The trooper, joined by others with submachine guns, confronted her at a traffic island in front of the terminal.
"She was immediately told to stop, to raise her hands and not to make any movement, so we could observe all her movements to see if she was trying to trip any type of device," Pare said. "Had she not followed the protocol, we might have used deadly force."
Pare said Simpson took a subway to the airport, but he was not sure if she had the device on at that time.
The major praised the booth attendant, but said the incident is a reminder of the terrorism threat confronting the civil aviation system. Two of the four passenger jets hijacked on Sept. 11, 2001, took off from Logan.
The city was the focus of a major security scare Jan. 31 when dozens of battery-powered devices were discovered in various locations. Bomb squads were deployed and some transportation links were closed temporarily. They turned out to be a promotion for the Cartoon Network.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7436542 - 09/21/07 01:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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So someone straps a motherboard to themselves and all of a sudden they're a terrorist? When will people stop using 9/11 to scare people into fitting into the crowd.
This article is almost 90% warrantless fear mongering.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7436544 - 09/21/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Star Simpson, 19, had a computer circuit board and wiring in plain view over a black hooded sweatshirt she was wearing
Either this chick has a death wish or she's incredibly stupid.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7436550 - 09/21/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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DON"T YOU UNDERSTAND THE TERRORIST THREAT IN A POST 2001 AIRPORT?!?!?!?!111```
I wish they had shot her, that would have been a better story.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: afoaf]
#7436612 - 09/21/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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This kind of reminds me of Chris Burden, the performance artist that crucified himself to a VW bug and tricked his friend into shooting him all for art's sake.
http://arted.osu.edu/160/14_Burden.php
What's really funny is now Burden is an art teacher. He had a student show up to his class one day with a gun loaded with blanks. The student walked in and showed off the gun to the class and then ran out of the class and shot it off trying to trick everyone into thinking he had killed himself.
What's really funny is that Burden condemned the student... which is ironic considering all the shit HE pulled in the 70's
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: xFrockx]
#7437204 - 09/21/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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xFrockx said: So someone straps a motherboard to themselves and all of a sudden they're a terrorist? When will people stop using 9/11 to scare people into fitting into the crowd.
This article is almost 90% warrantless fear mongering.
You can't be serious.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7437240 - 09/21/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kids from MIT may have an IQ of 150+ but they obviously lack common sense. Too bad she wasn't taken down with a bullet to the skull.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7437694 - 09/21/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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"She said that it was a piece of art and she wanted to stand out on career day,"
FAIL.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7439967 - 09/22/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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So bombs look like circuit boards now?
What a paranoid society we live in these days. Of course the usual suspects of this board will all agree that she had it coming. They love to suck uncle sams dick out in the open to show how they are so patriotic.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: DNKYD]
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: J4S0N]
#7440510 - 09/22/07 01:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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J4S0N said: So bombs look like circuit boards now?
What a paranoid society we live in these days. Of course the usual suspects of this board will all agree that she had it coming.
Had what coming? She got arrested for disturbing the peace and having a hoax device. She intended to disturb the peace and deliberately made a fake bomb for that purpose. Circuit boards, wires and imitation C4. Yup, nothing there move along, move along. If she hadn't obeyed the cops, like several other fools chose not to do, she might well be dead and everybody would feel bad for her. A little. Like the idiots who pull toy guns on cops and get shot.
Paranoid? I don't think so. Look up the word.Quote:
They love to suck uncle sams dick out in the open to show how they are so patriotic.
And you are oh so brave, protected by the police you despise. You would be somebody's slave there were no cops.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: zappaisgod]
#7440974 - 09/22/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#7440994 - 09/22/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll let the person to whom that comment was directed respond for himself... but I want to unequivocally state that, in my case (& I'm guessing others here feel the same way), I am the guardian, protector & sole owner of my own freedom; not the police, not the military, not any judges, & definitely not any politicians.
what happens when the other guy is bigger or has friends or weapons?
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: wilshire]
#7441010 - 09/22/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#7441027 - 09/22/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like you're talking about the cops/feds... 'cuz they're the only people who fit that description that I have to worry about violating my freedom.
have you ever visited economically depressed areas or do you just read about them?
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: wilshire]
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#7444273 - 09/23/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://wbztv.com/topstories/local_story_264104114.html
that site has pictures of the actual shirt. It dosn't look like a bomb, it looks like a shirt someone made for a high school pep rally. Get real.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7444770 - 09/23/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, so that thing is supposed to look like a bomb ?
Omfg, people are so stupid.
It reminds me of my friend who got problems with the cops : One day, we were near the door of the school shooting a movie for one of our classes, my friend had a gun in his hand pointing in the air, he was yelling his speech (which was : WATCH OUT FOR THE ALIENS), another friend held a mic in the air, I was walking around the guy with the gun with the camera, and another guy was disguised as an alien dancing around us. Before we knew it, someone had saw the gun and has called the cops on us, six of them arrived in car, open their door and while keeping us at gunpoint they yell to us to get on the ground, we were all confused and then a cops jumped on my friend and threw him on the ground, my friend has his face slamed on the ciment. I never saw so many suprised face, the people that were looking at us shooting the film from a couple of meters were astonished.
People need to think and use their brain, if the bastard that called the cops had at least look and analysed the situation, he would have realised the situation was ridiculus and that it was a movie. Media scare so much the people that when something special or a little out of the ordinary is happening, they immediately call the cops out of fear.
We were charged with community services and the guy with the gun spent 1 day in court explaining the situation. They talked about us on the local news and they said that the gun was a real gun unloaded, which was total bullshit, it was a blue plastic gun flashing with light and doing "ggGRRRRRR" when activated.
Sorry, I had to tell this story, since this day I listen to news while laughing and feeling sorry for the people they talk of.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7446352 - 09/24/07 12:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't believe this. Some nerd wears part of a computer on herself and everyone thinks she is a criminal?
You guys need to get out more/pull the sticks out of your butts. Sounds like she is a just some sort of a tech nerd with esoteric fashion sense. I don't see how a circuit board and blinking lights signals any sort of bomb. I'm glad the cops were careful enough to check it out, but I don't see what law the girl was breaking.
I wonder what would happen if a renaissance fair nerd showed up at an airport with a fake javelin? Probably get his sorry ass tazed.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: gluke bastid]
#7446610 - 09/24/07 04:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't believe this. Some nerd wears part of a computer on herself and everyone thinks she is a criminal?
You have somebody with a circuit board tied to their chest, with numbers that are counting down, and wires that go into a brick of putty in her hands, inside an airport. What is your first thought? Mine certainly isn't "MIT student wearing art".
Had she lacked the putty in her hands, then I might be a little less critical... but with that, there is little doubt that her intent was to simulate an explosive device.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7447480 - 09/24/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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good thing she wasn't wearing one of these:
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seriously though, you could consider this a fashion choice. 'Cyberpunk' or whatever they call it. I know a girl who has a pair of earrings made out of old circuit board. Should she not be able to wear those in public without authorities seeing them as a 'bomb'?
come on now, thats just ridiculous. Why would you give the government the right to over-react about this shit?
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: wps]
#7447675 - 09/24/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Should she not be able to wear those in public without authorities seeing them as a 'bomb'?
Yes. Earing-circuit-boards are one thing...a large circuit board on your chest, with lights, while you are holding putty in your hands...that's entirely different.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: trendal]
#7448616 - 09/24/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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trendal said: Should she not be able to wear those in public without authorities seeing them as a 'bomb'?
Yes. Earing-circuit-boards are one thing...a large circuit board on you chest, with lights, and while you are holding putty in your hands...that's entirely different.
If she was Arab she would be dead.
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....If she was actually intending to blow herself up, why would she display it on the outside of her shirt?
please.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: white_noise]
#7449056 - 09/24/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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to cause a ruckus?
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Seuss]
#7449311 - 09/24/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seuss said: You have somebody with a circuit board tied to their chest, with numbers that are counting down, and wires that go into a brick of putty in her hands, inside an airport. What is your first thought? Mine certainly isn't "MIT student wearing art".
As I said, I am glad the cops stopped her. I just think she should be acquitted, and I think it is bogus that multiple people have expressed the opinion "she is lucky she wasn't shot."
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: white_noise]
#7456272 - 09/26/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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white_noise said: ....If she was actually intending to blow herself up, why would she display it on the outside of her shirt?
please.
Oh thank goodness! We have our very own suicide-bomber psychologist expert here at the Shroomery! You should have a job with Homeland Security since you obviously know the methods used by every suicide bomber.
Please.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7457845 - 09/26/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't understand why they are so worried about just airports.
It would be quite easy for a "terrorist" to make a "dirty bomb", using old medical equipment off ebay, that would cause far more damage than blowing up a plane.
I know transport wouldn't be a problem, I just crossed the country on a train without having my ID checked ONCE, without passing through a single metal detector, and without a single dog sniffing my bags...
There really isn't a terrorist threat like they're making it out to be just like there wasn't any communist threat like they made it out to be... etc.
IMO.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Middleman]
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I just crossed the country on a train without having my ID checked ONCE, without passing through a single metal detector, and without a single dog sniffing my bags...
Were you wearing a circuit board and carrying a blob of putty around with you at the time?
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Middleman]
#7457953 - 09/26/07 10:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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There really isn't a terrorist threat like they're making it out to be just like there wasn't any communist threat like they made it out to be... etc.
You're right. All those guys blowing up trains in Madrid and bombing London buses and stuff aren't terrorists. And those guys they catch in countries around the world on just about a monthly basis who are plotting to blow up stuff? Not terrorists either.
Just run of the mill criminals, they are.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Phred]
#7459882 - 09/27/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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What about the people going to war, killing over 70,000 innocent Iraqi's?
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: xFrockx]
#7461196 - 09/27/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh wait what?
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i think he was trying to get at some sort of fallacy.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Seuss]
#7463145 - 09/28/07 05:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just really don't understand the logic of wearing that to an airport. I'd be interested in hearing more of her side of the story.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Aquarius_Learner]
#7466444 - 09/29/07 06:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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... kind of ashamed i'm the first person who thought of this, but i bet they immediately made her take off her shirt...
seriously though, something looks like a bomb,the cops check it out, turns out to be nothing.
sounds pretty boring to me, except saying that they would have killed her.
reminds me of the time me and my friends were playing with some of these on an empty road: http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Boffer/Images/Boffer-Weapons.jpg
and 4 cop cars pulled up because someone had called saying we had rocket launchers.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
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what's amazing is the lack of common sense used by both parties. This student should have exercised a little descretion and waited to put on that shirt after she got off the plane on the way to career day. The police should do a double take when she walks by ( i know I would look at her a little funny), however, the 9/11 terrorists used box cutters to take down planes. One guy tried to light his shoe on fire to bring down a plane. Why would a terrorist draw attention to him/herself by wearing a vest of Light-Brites? Boston is overcomping w/ paranoia b/c the 9/11 jackers flew out of Logan.
Just like the Aqua Teen advert fiasco. It just makes you look like youre in over your head.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: wilshire]
#7491677 - 10/06/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So someone straps a motherboard to themselves and all of a sudden they're a terrorist? When will people stop using 9/11 to scare people into fitting into the crowd.
This article is almost 90% warrantless fear mongering.
Yeah somewhere around there.
from the other article:
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Simpson is a Massachusetts Institute of Technology sophomore and has expertise in electronics and even received a Congressional citation for her work in robotics, according to her lawyer.
So considering this, it isn't rediculous at all to think it could be art for career day.
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During the hearing, Simpson smiled as she entered wearing a T-shirt and sandals. Prosecutor Wayne Margolis had requested $5,000 bail, saying Simpson showed "a total disregard to understand the context of the situation she is in, which is an airport of post-9/11."
No, she failed to conform your incompetent paranoid brainwashed understanding of a post 9/11 world.
The you tube video on the other page said that she was carrying play-dough in her hands which "looked liked plastic explosives". I have to admit here at least, that yes plastic explosives (c4) does look alot similar to play dough.
http://www.ribbands.co.uk/images/prodimgs/C4.jpg
This is the only point where I would have any suspicion of her trying to pull a political stunt. But I think most people wouldn't be that stupid. I think she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and there is a slim possibility that she had some other intentions. But we will probably never know.
The you tube video said that they had to act "within a fraction of a second". They said she had ignored peoples questions as to what the device was. But she did answer a flight attendants question, and walked away. The play dough even if it was c4, holding it in her hands like that is entirely useless for setting off a bomb. Not to mention that a real terrorist would have not an electronic board displayed openly on his back with flashing lights either. It's rediculous, and they're the ones not using common sense. They're the ones who are unreasonable. They didn't even go talk to her, they just came up and pointed submachine guns at her. This is exactly the kind of put you in submission tactics that would be used initially to form a 1984 lockdown shove you into submission world. Remember in 1984, how the people were brainwashed into thinking that their leader and their country was full of freedom and liberty while the other side was evil out to destroy everything they loved? The truth is every side is in the first category, and every side is brainwashed, but the point remains valid.
People should not give in to this kind of fear mongering. Yes don't do that at the airport if it will get you killed and don't break the law, but this is the same kind of fear mongering like "don't wear a red or blue bandanna or you may be indentified as crip or blood and die".
Shoot first and ask questions second, that's how they are behaving, they are a paranoid brainwashed unquestioning minority who are the same muscle and support behind the war on drugs.
It reminds me of the quote "give me liberty or give me death". While I don't agree with all of the ideals of the quoter, It is certainly a valid and relevant saying. I would rather die or have some die in a world that has room for freedom of thought, and prmotes peace, love, and freedom than in a military state where everyone lives and cannot escape that demands unquestioning obedience and is cold and cruel.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
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No, she failed to conform your incompetent paranoid brainwashed understanding of a post 9/11 world.
LOL. Incompetent moron is any cop who would have reacted differently to someone walking around an airport with wiring all over her body and holding some putty that looks just like a plastic explosive.
You PC people never cease to amaze me. 
But I think most people wouldn't be that stupid.
Yeah, sure. Most people wouldn't be so stupid as to deliberately blow themselves up.
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Not to mention that a real terrorist would have not an electronic board displayed openly on his back with flashing lights either. It's rediculous, and they're the ones not using common sense
You are sitting next to some guy in the airport and he takes his shoe off, pulls out a lighter, and starts to light his shoe on fire. Do you suspect he may be setting off a bomb, or do you think he is a student playing with a new form of art? My point is that "common sense" works a lot better looking back on a situation. Unfortunately, in the heat of the moment you don't get the benefit of hindsight. If you are wrong, you die. So, does common sense tell you that it is better to risk your life and assume that things out of the ordinary are art, or does common sense tell you to be a little more careful in this messed up day and age where idiots tend to blow themselves up to make political statements.
> but this is the same kind of fear mongering like "don't wear a red or blue bandanna or you may be indentified as crip or blood and die".
Heh, walk through the 'hood with the wrong colors and see how far you get.
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LOL. Incompetent moron is any cop who would have reacted differently to someone walking around an airport with wiring all over her body and holding some putty that looks just like a plastic explosive.
Any reasonable cop within training in anti-terrorism who knows how to detect things like c4 would understand that is it almost definitely not c4, and even if it was, in it's present state it is useless.If they went after her, in my view it was because they felt offended that she did not conform to the same paranoid brainwashed understanding as them.
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But I think most people wouldn't be that stupid.
Yeah, sure. Most people wouldn't be so stupid as to deliberately blow themselves up.
Of course there are going to be some nut jobs. But the point is are we really going to live in that kind of fear for the rest of our lives? Even if there are terrorist bombers out there, it's no reason for us to live in that kind of worry.Even if some people die, it's better than living in a lockdown world.
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You are sitting next to some guy in the airport and he takes his shoe off, pulls out a lighter, and starts to light his shoe on fire. Do you suspect he may be setting off a bomb, or do you think he is a student playing with a new form of art? My point is that "common sense" works a lot better looking back on a situation. Unfortunately, in the heat of the moment you don't get the benefit of hindsight. If you are wrong, you die. So, does common sense tell you that it is better to risk your life and assume that things out of the ordinary are art, or does common sense tell you to be a little more careful in this messed up day and age where idiots tend to blow themselves up to make political statements.
Well, that depends. If he's in a part of the airport that allows lighters, I would probably stare at him and wonder "what is that guy doing"? If he was in a part of the airport lighters weren't allowed in I would start walking briskly away from him toward the security desk or some cop. But that comparison doesn't seem very accurate compared to this article, and even with this example, it's not right to go tackling him and put him in handcuffs and make a citizens arrest or slit his throat with my fingernails just because he is doing something I deem strange. People do strange things all the time! The security should be generally relegated to the x rays and pat down searches if need be when passing through lines.. we can't live in that kind of world, where everyone has to conform to some ideal of what a terrorist shouldn't look like. They could look like anyone! You're better off just wiping all the arabs out, instead of fighting them that way, you'll never win.
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Heh, walk through the 'hood with the wrong colors and see how far you get. 
I live in one of the most high violence neighborhoods in the state, I'm not going to let that bother me. Blue happens to be a color I like to wear. I'm not going to stop wearing blue just because some fools are into gangs and are paranoid. I'm going to live my life in peace, and confidence. If we continually react to fear tactics, then we're doing exactly what these evil people want us to do.
If anyone is really pushing terrorism, it's the united states. They refuse to recognise the plight of those in the middle east. It's not even on the news. Does anyone even realize that these people who are attacking us have reasons why they're bombing us? It's not because they're just muslim, altough thier religion provides enough justification if they seek it. Not everyone agrees with bin ladens tactics, but many many people in the middle east look to him as a leader nonetheless because they recognise that the u.s. has been provoking them for decades.By going after them and condemning them like it is, the u.s. and u.n. only provoking them to attack us even more. And If I believed I had justification and my religion gave me permission to go to war, then what better way for my small country like Aphganistan or Iran to attack big bad U.s.a? Terrorism! Bombings! That's exactly how I'd do it, and any realistic person would too.
Our country and Bush went about this the wrong way from the beginning. There's a verse in the bible, and it would be wise for our president and all to take heed:
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I also just wanted to mention, this all reminded me of the Delhi bombings in 2005. I remember when it happened. I was reading an article about it, and it said somewhere in between that the u.n. and the u.s. had gone on some type of "red alert", like level 5 or something, the highest level. I thought to myself first of all, why does u.s.a need to go on top alert for a bombing that happened half way around the word? Let alone the whole u.n. for that matter? Responding the way that they did is actually working with the terrorists. And my honest opinion is that they very may well be.
I remember when 9/11 happened. I woke up early that morning, and sat down in front of the tv, and all of the sudden this was on television. It had just happened. I turned on my favorite radio station at the time, and I listened as the people on there were so sad and distressed. One person sounded like she was sobbing. I called her (the dj) and said something like " you know there's a reason why this happened". And this is a seriously counterculture radio station (107.7) And more and more I witnessed the bubbles of ignorant people being broken, and recognizing that their fragile little world was being invaded. They had no idea. They had no idea why these people were doing this. And they still don't. People need to wake up.
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and said something like " you know there's a reason why this happened".
Yeah, the reason was that the walking cock in the Oval Office was more interested in getting some chubby trim than in actually killing someone who had already attacked us, which he had ample opportunity to do. And the cunt Carter's feckless and cowardly response to Iran's attack on our sovereign soil.
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Yeah, the reason was that the walking cock in the Oval Office was more interested in getting some chubby trim than in actually killing someone who had already attacked us, which he had ample opportunity to do.
I gonna go out on a limb & guess that you have no idea why most of the rest of the world (outside of Israel) has a negative view of America.
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Uh... when has the Iranian government attacked U.S. soil?
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No, you aren't. As most people know embassies are the sovereign soil of the nations they represent.
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In which case the murder of those innocent men and women would have precipitated a wholesale slaughter of Iranians which even the feckless cunt Carter could not have prevented. You have really exposed yourself as something quite different from the peaceably entheogenic person you pretend to be. Again.
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> They're lucky their captors didn't executive every one of them; they had every reason to.
Wow! Please humor me and list out a few of the reasons why the captors would have been justified (your wording: "every reason") in killing innocent civilians? I'm extremely curious on your reasoning.
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and said something like " you know there's a reason why this happened".
Yeah, the reason was that the walking cock in the Oval Office was more interested in getting some chubby trim than in actually killing someone who had already attacked us, which he had ample opportunity to do. And the cunt Carter's feckless and cowardly response to Iran's attack on our sovereign soil.
nah, probably because the rest of the world is tired of the US Government interfering in their politics clandestinely. 'Sovereign Soil' works both ways, you know.
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And they don't have their own spies? Grow up.
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probably. but are they propping up a monarchy like Saudi Arabia for business purposes?
when I see how those saudis live (outside the royal family, of course), it doesn't surprise me at all that some of them would sacrifice their lives to attack the nation that supports their oppressive government.
WTF did you think was going to happen?
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Although this is common nonsense from the left, the US is not responsible for "propping up" the Saudi Royal family. They are wealthy enough and devious enough to do it quite well on their own
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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> I said the hostage takers had "every reason" to do so in accordance with the practices of the U.S. government.
No you didn't. Your exact quote:
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Oh... the U.S. embassy in Iran supporting the U.S. puppet dictator hated by an overwhelming majority of the Iranian people. What a tragedy... that hostage incident. They're lucky their captors didn't executive every one of them; they had every reason to.
Twist it all you like, but you made a claim that the hostage takers had every reason (would be justified) to murder their hostages (innocent civilians) because the majority of Iranians had a problem with their "US puppet dictator". In light of your nickname, I find the above comments to be very ironic.
> The primary difference is that the former takes a lot more courage & conviction.
No, the difference is in the targeting of civilians. It is easy for cowards to target civilians. It takes courage and conviction to go up against an armed military. The guys that hijacked the planes were cowards. And before you start making more assumptions about my position, I would not consider the insurgents (that target the military) fighting in Iraq to be cowards. Can you not see the difference between attacking unarmed civilians and military targets.
> If the U.S. was justified ...
Oh, so two wrongs make a right?
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That may be your opinion, but the vast majority of Arabs & Muslims have a different one. I don't expect you to share it, but you should know it exists.
They believe a lot of stuff. So what? They are astonishingly ignorant people.
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I also would condemn any attack that either targets civilians or is carried out knowing that they will die, the U.S. being the greatest violator of this.
So you condemn pretty much the entire Allied war effort in World War Two's European theater, then? Good to know.
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Yeah, like flying in a fighter plane & dropping bombs over an area with no real anti-aircraft systems, which has killed more civilians in Iraq & Afghanistan than were killed on 9-11.
Again, you are putting words into my mouth. I never made any claims about the military and what they do. My gripe is against people that intentionally target civilians and people that seem to support the idea that civilians are fair targets if you disagree with those people's governments. Again, you are saying two wrongs make a right (assuming that the military is hitting civilian targets).
I also disagree that it takes courage to kill oneself after one has been brainwashed into thinking that one will be rewarded with all the beer the FSM can create when they reach noodlevana. Greed, yes, but not courage. Everybody dies and many people intentionally kill themselves. Real courage is facing death when you want to continue living. Quite a difference.
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Do you think this will make any penetration? I don't. "Zee bunker, eets walls are tres thick."
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I also disagree that it takes courage to kill oneself after one has been brainwashed into thinking that one will be rewarded with all the beer the FSM can create when they reach noodlevana. Greed, yes, but not courage
oh come on now, you seem more intelligent than that. Do you REALLY think that suicide bombers are brainwashed to the extent that they think they will get 40 virgins or whatever?
You know they are telling their kids over there variations of the same thing. "Those Americans are brainwashed by their media and their evil Churches, thats why they start these wars."
the reality is that statements like these cheapen both sides' commitment to their cause. Maybe the suicide bombers don't really believe they will be rewarded in the afterlife. Maybe they are just doing what they think will further the cause of their people.
Sure they are misguided but so are we. It doesn't have to be that one side is right and the other is wrong. It could very well be that BOTH sides are wrong.
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Do you REALLY think that suicide bombers are brainwashed to the extent that they think they will get 40 virgins or whatever?
Absolutely. Have you ever listened to one of these guys videos that they create before sploidying themselves? It is spooky listening to the conviction of their faith. Listen to the interviews with their family! The mothers are proud of their sons sacrifice as a martyr.
Perhaps I misused the word "brainwash" a bit... not in the cloak-and-dagger or cult sense of the word, but in the "they were raised to think like that from children" sense of the word. They quite literally pound the thinking into their heads. A bruise on the forehead, caused by smacking oneself with the Koran, is a sign of faith.
I'm not saying that such faith is bad, but it can easily be directed towards violence and radicalism.
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You know they are telling their kids over there variations of the same thing. "Those Americans are brainwashed by their media and their evil Churches, thats why they start these wars."
You are partly correct. The message has nothing to do with the media or evil Churches, however. Instead, the message preached is about the Jews running America, drinking the blood of Muslim babies, etc. Pick up a newspaper and read... it is all there, written by their own hand.
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It could very well be that BOTH sides are wrong.
Which has nothing to do with fanatical faith...
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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Yes, I condemn all attacks
You don't believe a nation has a right to defend itself when attacked first??
Wow.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Seuss]
#7502478 - 10/09/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't stop tasing morons, bro!
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Seuss]
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