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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7447480 - 09/24/07 12:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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good thing she wasn't wearing one of these:
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seriously though, you could consider this a fashion choice. 'Cyberpunk' or whatever they call it. I know a girl who has a pair of earrings made out of old circuit board. Should she not be able to wear those in public without authorities seeing them as a 'bomb'?
come on now, thats just ridiculous. Why would you give the government the right to over-react about this shit?
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: wps]
#7447675 - 09/24/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Should she not be able to wear those in public without authorities seeing them as a 'bomb'?
Yes. Earing-circuit-boards are one thing...a large circuit board on your chest, with lights, while you are holding putty in your hands...that's entirely different.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: trendal]
#7448616 - 09/24/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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trendal said: Should she not be able to wear those in public without authorities seeing them as a 'bomb'?
Yes. Earing-circuit-boards are one thing...a large circuit board on you chest, with lights, and while you are holding putty in your hands...that's entirely different.
If she was Arab she would be dead.
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....If she was actually intending to blow herself up, why would she display it on the outside of her shirt?
please.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: white_noise]
#7449056 - 09/24/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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to cause a ruckus?
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Seuss]
#7449311 - 09/24/07 09:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seuss said: You have somebody with a circuit board tied to their chest, with numbers that are counting down, and wires that go into a brick of putty in her hands, inside an airport. What is your first thought? Mine certainly isn't "MIT student wearing art".
As I said, I am glad the cops stopped her. I just think she should be acquitted, and I think it is bogus that multiple people have expressed the opinion "she is lucky she wasn't shot."
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: white_noise]
#7456272 - 09/26/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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white_noise said: ....If she was actually intending to blow herself up, why would she display it on the outside of her shirt?
please.
Oh thank goodness! We have our very own suicide-bomber psychologist expert here at the Shroomery! You should have a job with Homeland Security since you obviously know the methods used by every suicide bomber.
Please.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7457845 - 09/26/07 09:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't understand why they are so worried about just airports.
It would be quite easy for a "terrorist" to make a "dirty bomb", using old medical equipment off ebay, that would cause far more damage than blowing up a plane.
I know transport wouldn't be a problem, I just crossed the country on a train without having my ID checked ONCE, without passing through a single metal detector, and without a single dog sniffing my bags...
There really isn't a terrorist threat like they're making it out to be just like there wasn't any communist threat like they made it out to be... etc.
IMO.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Middleman]
#7457931 - 09/26/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just crossed the country on a train without having my ID checked ONCE, without passing through a single metal detector, and without a single dog sniffing my bags...
Were you wearing a circuit board and carrying a blob of putty around with you at the time?
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Middleman]
#7457953 - 09/26/07 10:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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There really isn't a terrorist threat like they're making it out to be just like there wasn't any communist threat like they made it out to be... etc.
You're right. All those guys blowing up trains in Madrid and bombing London buses and stuff aren't terrorists. And those guys they catch in countries around the world on just about a monthly basis who are plotting to blow up stuff? Not terrorists either.
Just run of the mill criminals, they are.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Phred]
#7459882 - 09/27/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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What about the people going to war, killing over 70,000 innocent Iraqi's?
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: xFrockx]
#7461196 - 09/27/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh wait what?
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i think he was trying to get at some sort of fallacy.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Seuss]
#7463145 - 09/28/07 05:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just really don't understand the logic of wearing that to an airport. I'd be interested in hearing more of her side of the story.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Aquarius_Learner]
#7466444 - 09/29/07 06:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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... kind of ashamed i'm the first person who thought of this, but i bet they immediately made her take off her shirt...
seriously though, something looks like a bomb,the cops check it out, turns out to be nothing.
sounds pretty boring to me, except saying that they would have killed her.
reminds me of the time me and my friends were playing with some of these on an empty road: http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Boffer/Images/Boffer-Weapons.jpg
and 4 cop cars pulled up because someone had called saying we had rocket launchers.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Diploid]
#7488289 - 10/05/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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what's amazing is the lack of common sense used by both parties. This student should have exercised a little descretion and waited to put on that shirt after she got off the plane on the way to career day. The police should do a double take when she walks by ( i know I would look at her a little funny), however, the 9/11 terrorists used box cutters to take down planes. One guy tried to light his shoe on fire to bring down a plane. Why would a terrorist draw attention to him/herself by wearing a vest of Light-Brites? Boston is overcomping w/ paranoia b/c the 9/11 jackers flew out of Logan.
Just like the Aqua Teen advert fiasco. It just makes you look like youre in over your head.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: wilshire]
#7491677 - 10/06/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So someone straps a motherboard to themselves and all of a sudden they're a terrorist? When will people stop using 9/11 to scare people into fitting into the crowd.
This article is almost 90% warrantless fear mongering.
Yeah somewhere around there.
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Simpson is a Massachusetts Institute of Technology sophomore and has expertise in electronics and even received a Congressional citation for her work in robotics, according to her lawyer.
So considering this, it isn't rediculous at all to think it could be art for career day.
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During the hearing, Simpson smiled as she entered wearing a T-shirt and sandals. Prosecutor Wayne Margolis had requested $5,000 bail, saying Simpson showed "a total disregard to understand the context of the situation she is in, which is an airport of post-9/11."
No, she failed to conform your incompetent paranoid brainwashed understanding of a post 9/11 world.
The you tube video on the other page said that she was carrying play-dough in her hands which "looked liked plastic explosives". I have to admit here at least, that yes plastic explosives (c4) does look alot similar to play dough.
http://www.ribbands.co.uk/images/prodimgs/C4.jpg
This is the only point where I would have any suspicion of her trying to pull a political stunt. But I think most people wouldn't be that stupid. I think she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and there is a slim possibility that she had some other intentions. But we will probably never know.
The you tube video said that they had to act "within a fraction of a second". They said she had ignored peoples questions as to what the device was. But she did answer a flight attendants question, and walked away. The play dough even if it was c4, holding it in her hands like that is entirely useless for setting off a bomb. Not to mention that a real terrorist would have not an electronic board displayed openly on his back with flashing lights either. It's rediculous, and they're the ones not using common sense. They're the ones who are unreasonable. They didn't even go talk to her, they just came up and pointed submachine guns at her. This is exactly the kind of put you in submission tactics that would be used initially to form a 1984 lockdown shove you into submission world. Remember in 1984, how the people were brainwashed into thinking that their leader and their country was full of freedom and liberty while the other side was evil out to destroy everything they loved? The truth is every side is in the first category, and every side is brainwashed, but the point remains valid.
People should not give in to this kind of fear mongering. Yes don't do that at the airport if it will get you killed and don't break the law, but this is the same kind of fear mongering like "don't wear a red or blue bandanna or you may be indentified as crip or blood and die".
Shoot first and ask questions second, that's how they are behaving, they are a paranoid brainwashed unquestioning minority who are the same muscle and support behind the war on drugs.
It reminds me of the quote "give me liberty or give me death". While I don't agree with all of the ideals of the quoter, It is certainly a valid and relevant saying. I would rather die or have some die in a world that has room for freedom of thought, and prmotes peace, love, and freedom than in a military state where everyone lives and cannot escape that demands unquestioning obedience and is cold and cruel.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7493580 - 10/07/07 04:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, she failed to conform your incompetent paranoid brainwashed understanding of a post 9/11 world.
LOL. Incompetent moron is any cop who would have reacted differently to someone walking around an airport with wiring all over her body and holding some putty that looks just like a plastic explosive.
You PC people never cease to amaze me. 
But I think most people wouldn't be that stupid.
Yeah, sure. Most people wouldn't be so stupid as to deliberately blow themselves up.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7493720 - 10/07/07 08:09 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not to mention that a real terrorist would have not an electronic board displayed openly on his back with flashing lights either. It's rediculous, and they're the ones not using common sense
You are sitting next to some guy in the airport and he takes his shoe off, pulls out a lighter, and starts to light his shoe on fire. Do you suspect he may be setting off a bomb, or do you think he is a student playing with a new form of art? My point is that "common sense" works a lot better looking back on a situation. Unfortunately, in the heat of the moment you don't get the benefit of hindsight. If you are wrong, you die. So, does common sense tell you that it is better to risk your life and assume that things out of the ordinary are art, or does common sense tell you to be a little more careful in this messed up day and age where idiots tend to blow themselves up to make political statements.
> but this is the same kind of fear mongering like "don't wear a red or blue bandanna or you may be indentified as crip or blood and die".
Heh, walk through the 'hood with the wrong colors and see how far you get.
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Re: Another Moron Student Prvokes The Police [Re: Seuss]
#7495044 - 10/07/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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LOL. Incompetent moron is any cop who would have reacted differently to someone walking around an airport with wiring all over her body and holding some putty that looks just like a plastic explosive.
Any reasonable cop within training in anti-terrorism who knows how to detect things like c4 would understand that is it almost definitely not c4, and even if it was, in it's present state it is useless.If they went after her, in my view it was because they felt offended that she did not conform to the same paranoid brainwashed understanding as them.
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It will not explode even if hit by a bullet, punched, cut, or thrown into a fire. The only reliable method for detonation is via both heat and pressure, e.g. a detonator or blasting cap.
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But I think most people wouldn't be that stupid.
Yeah, sure. Most people wouldn't be so stupid as to deliberately blow themselves up.
Of course there are going to be some nut jobs. But the point is are we really going to live in that kind of fear for the rest of our lives? Even if there are terrorist bombers out there, it's no reason for us to live in that kind of worry.Even if some people die, it's better than living in a lockdown world.
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You are sitting next to some guy in the airport and he takes his shoe off, pulls out a lighter, and starts to light his shoe on fire. Do you suspect he may be setting off a bomb, or do you think he is a student playing with a new form of art? My point is that "common sense" works a lot better looking back on a situation. Unfortunately, in the heat of the moment you don't get the benefit of hindsight. If you are wrong, you die. So, does common sense tell you that it is better to risk your life and assume that things out of the ordinary are art, or does common sense tell you to be a little more careful in this messed up day and age where idiots tend to blow themselves up to make political statements.
Well, that depends. If he's in a part of the airport that allows lighters, I would probably stare at him and wonder "what is that guy doing"? If he was in a part of the airport lighters weren't allowed in I would start walking briskly away from him toward the security desk or some cop. But that comparison doesn't seem very accurate compared to this article, and even with this example, it's not right to go tackling him and put him in handcuffs and make a citizens arrest or slit his throat with my fingernails just because he is doing something I deem strange. People do strange things all the time! The security should be generally relegated to the x rays and pat down searches if need be when passing through lines.. we can't live in that kind of world, where everyone has to conform to some ideal of what a terrorist shouldn't look like. They could look like anyone! You're better off just wiping all the arabs out, instead of fighting them that way, you'll never win.
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> but this is the same kind of fear mongering like "don't wear a red or blue bandanna or you may be indentified as crip or blood and die".
Heh, walk through the 'hood with the wrong colors and see how far you get. 
I live in one of the most high violence neighborhoods in the state, I'm not going to let that bother me. Blue happens to be a color I like to wear. I'm not going to stop wearing blue just because some fools are into gangs and are paranoid. I'm going to live my life in peace, and confidence. If we continually react to fear tactics, then we're doing exactly what these evil people want us to do.
If anyone is really pushing terrorism, it's the united states. They refuse to recognise the plight of those in the middle east. It's not even on the news. Does anyone even realize that these people who are attacking us have reasons why they're bombing us? It's not because they're just muslim, altough thier religion provides enough justification if they seek it. Not everyone agrees with bin ladens tactics, but many many people in the middle east look to him as a leader nonetheless because they recognise that the u.s. has been provoking them for decades.By going after them and condemning them like it is, the u.s. and u.n. only provoking them to attack us even more. And If I believed I had justification and my religion gave me permission to go to war, then what better way for my small country like Aphganistan or Iran to attack big bad U.s.a? Terrorism! Bombings! That's exactly how I'd do it, and any realistic person would too.
Our country and Bush went about this the wrong way from the beginning. There's a verse in the bible, and it would be wise for our president and all to take heed:
When a man's ways are pleasing to the LORD, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.
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