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CFL Huntin' (ID por favor)
    #7434739 - 09/20/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

























Habitat: Cow shit.... in a cow pasture....

Gills: dark dark. Most look black... a few are really hard to tell... greyish blackish brownish

Stem: whitish. thin and fragile.

Cap: Brownish in the center, fades. no more than an inch and a half in diameter, most being about a half an inch to an inch.

Spore print color: All look black.

Bruising: Some with what appears to be a small amount of blue bruising, some bruised dark dark purple, nearly black.

Location: Central Florida

This is my first ID request and I know I'm showing my noobtitude. Please let me know what I am missing and I will try to fix it.


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: SacredPsychonaut]
    #7434749 - 09/20/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well those prints are black, so at least you know its not toxic. Panaeolus for sure.

I can't really see the blue bruising in those pictures, it shows up better with more light.

If they are bruising a nice bright cyan blue where damaged, its Panaeolus cyanescens.

But more likely its Panaeolus semiovatus var. phalaenarum.

Can you describe any blue you see in more detail?


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: SacredPsychonaut]
    #7434772 - 09/20/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah and sorry about the shitty pix.. I dont own a digital camera. These were taken with a video camera and then captured.


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: SacredPsychonaut]
    #7434817 - 09/20/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I thought Panaeolus as soon as I saw them in the field! w00t! I'm on here way too much. So black spore print means non-toxic? wtf... Is nature trying to fool us? as for the blueing... not much that I can tell, at least not like on cubes I've had. on a few of them the stem is completely bruised up, almost black, but really a dark purple.


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: SacredPsychonaut]
    #7434892 - 09/21/07 12:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

> I thought Panaeolus as soon as I saw them in the field!

Yes, most mushrooms practically scream their genus at you the moment you look at them. You'll notice that more and more.

> w00t! I'm on here way too much.

jaja me too. But its a good use of time because I have learned a lot here.

Some people watch TV all night, a fate far worse.

> So black spore print means non-toxic? wtf...

Yes, it does, as far as anyone knows. I spoke with a mushroom poisoning expert recently and I asked him if he had ever heard of any poisonings from black spored mushrooms. The closest things we could come up with were Coprinus atramentaria (only poisonous when you drink alcohol) and Hypholoma fasciculare, which has a dark purple brown spore print and is very easy to recognize.

> as for the blueing... not much that I can tell, at least not like on cubes I've had. on a few of them the stem is completely bruised up, almost black, but really a dark purple.

Dark purple colors are commonly reported on bruised non-active mushrooms. If those were Panaeolus cyanescens, you would be going on and on about how blue they were turning.


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7434916 - 09/21/07 12:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Right-o. I think I'm out of luck this round. Maybe one or two small actives. And yeah I'm a noob but I've already learned a lot. I think I'm going to try that same area a couple more times and hope to come up with something.

Oh yeah, and after getting chased by that bull a few weeks ago, it seems I have developed a fear of cows. I am scared of those fuckers for sure. And the huge spiders.

But thanks a lot Alan, A+ to you my friend. I pass you the virtual joint. Puff, puff, pass to the left.


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: SacredPsychonaut]
    #7435503 - 09/21/07 06:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This morning I found a dead cockroach lying in the hall... I was wondering what possible could have killed it... Then I thought about all those mushrooms laying out drying. Any chance of a connection between those two? Think Pans. kill roaches?


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: SacredPsychonaut]
    #7435769 - 09/21/07 09:12 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)


Im fairly sure that is a pan cyan, but the only one i could see from your dark pictures.


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: SacredPsychonaut]
    #7435813 - 09/21/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Any chance of a connection between those two? Think Pans. kill roaches?



No, I don't think they do. I think the death was unrelated. All things die. Have you never discovered an intact dead bug? Perhaps starved or dehydrated.


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: CureCat]
    #7436353 - 09/21/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Looks similar to the one I found the other night. Mine was a look alike though. Black print, no bruising at all really. Gills had very faint silverish "sparkles". I'm in CFL also. I'm unfortunately finding tremendous amounts of C. molybdites, and C. rhacodes.


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: protector]
    #7438013 - 09/21/07 07:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm unfortunately finding tremendous amounts of C. molybdites, and C. rhacodes.



C. rhacodes is a very good edible- not unfortunate in the least! Just make sure not to eat the Green Gills.


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Re: CFL Huntin' (ID por favor) [Re: SacredPsychonaut]
    #7438259 - 09/21/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hola, i was thinking you have some cyanences there,and semiovatus or other inactive, are you familiar with the blue - black bruise of cyaneces, somethimes they are very damage in the field an you found then already like that, ,have a good hunt


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