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your parents and the psychedelic revolution
    #7432851 - 09/20/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I was just curious as to how many of you have parents who have used psychedelics. My father used a fair amount of LSD in his college days, and though he never outright told me so until I started smoking pot, he raised me with a rather unclouded view of psychedelics. He would never go off on tangents about it, or describe his experiences, but if I had been presented with misinformation about acid or mushrooms he would clear it up for me, and he explained at some point early on how "hallucinogen" is a misleading label for these drugs. He also touched briefly on the idea that some people use them for the purposes of exploration and philosophy. Basically, he made it clear to me that psychedelics are not "killer drugs," and that they are widely misunderstood, without ever actually telling me whether they were worth exploring or not.

My father hasn't used any drugs in a goddamn long time now (since before I was born), and he's an accomplished software engineer. However, my brother and I are now both completely fascinated by psychedelics, and we sense that we probably inherited this interest, however indirectly, from our father (especially considering psychedelics are literally the only interest the two of us have in common). If I manage to stay on track throughout my life, and have kids who will listen to the things I say, I will tell them about psychedelics in much the same way my father did to me, and they will most likely begin their own experimentation at some point as well. It made me wonder how common this circumstance is. If it is as widespread as I suspect - being that so many people used LSD in the 60's and then went on to have families - then we may be observing the subtle emergence of a brand-new mystic tradition in western culture.

This would mean that the "psychedelic revolution" is not a relic of the 60's, but an ongoing phenomenon that continues to influence our culture at large - a revolution that is still in its germinal phases. This idea is certainly strengthened by the fact that we live in a world where we can go online and tell everybody on earth about our experiences using these illegal drugs, and not only that, show off pictures of our monster crops of psychedelic mushrooms, without fear of reprisal. This is unprecedented in our modern society and lends major credence to the idea that we are already well on our way not only to understanding and using psychedelics responsibly as individuals, but integrating it into our shared culture in a productive and useful fashion - which, itself, has many precedents throughout human history.

It is already clear that authority is unable and/or unwilling to completely stamp out psychedelic use; LSD is scarce nowadays, but mushrooms can easily be found on the black market or, failing that, grown discreetly on a shoestring budget for anybody who is interested in using them. Spores are easy to obtain in most of the country and the equipment needed to nurture them is readily available in your local hardware store, with a wide variety of growing techniques found in a snap on the Internet. Indeed, the revolution has begun and cannot be stopped.

I guess this is sort of a rambling post, filled with obvious statements, but my ultimate question is: Did you guys pick up on psychedelics from your parents like I did? Or was it friends? Or just a personal interest?


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7432949 - 09/20/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It was entirely through friends for me. Unfortunately, it did start with DXM. then it advanced to cannabis, and one thing lead to another, and I'm the avid user of psychedelics i am today. (never gonna touch dxm again)

But all of my information comes from either my close friends, or the shroomery. I don't seem to find any reliable drug info among people who dont research it.

I enjoyed reading what you wrote by the way. It gave me hope.

My parents on the other hand, are very against any drugs. They rarely drink, and caffeine is the only one that both of them commonly use. They found out about my psychedelic usage, and they flipped shit. I continued to explain to them how they aren't bad, and eventually they realized that they aren't what people have been telling them. Then they told me they were illegal, which was the only legit reason not to do them that they came up with. So it worked in reverse in that instance.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7432998 - 09/20/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My mom has tried mushrooms and LSD, but she was one of the misinformed types. She dropped a microdot with her boyfriend who was driving at the time.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7433050 - 09/20/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

are microdots an outdated form of LSD? I have never heard of anyone getting microdots in my area, or at all. Have they completely discontinued them? (dont let this highjack the thread!)


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7433055 - 09/20/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

They're still around, just relatively rare.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7433070 - 09/20/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well i was raised a preachers kid... my adoptive parents didn't experiment with any drugs or drinking, the worst thing my dad did was try cigarettes in HS and he didn't like them(yet carried them around to look cool lol). my adoptive fathers a piece of shit though so he ran off and cheated on my mom at the age of 5, which for some reason just made my mom more of a hardcore jesus type. i started drinking around the age of 13, experimenting with drugs by 14 she was absolutely clueless cause she had no idea what to look for. about 2 years ago i saw my mom drinking at a wedding and evidentally since she got remarried a few years ago he's helped loosen her up...

So no i didn't get my use from my parents. but i think it's funny that i was a hardcore alcoholic almost 7 years before my 60 year old mother had her first sip of anything alcoholic in her life. she likes alcohol now, is absolutely appauled that i'm a marijuana smoker, but i'm very honest and upfront with her these days. i figure a few more years of spewing the truth at her and showing her the scientific facts and her getting glaucoma or arthritis or something and i'll have her cultivating indoors lol...

because i'm honest with her, even though she doesn't understand my smoking pot, i can do it in her house while talking to her over coffee or whatnot, which is a perfect chance to show it doesn't 'mess one up' anything like alcohol does. give it a few more years and she'll be another pot smoking granny.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7433206 - 09/20/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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are microdots an outdated form of LSD? I have never heard of anyone getting microdots in my area, or at all. Have they completely discontinued them? (dont let this highjack the thread!)




I've got some right here. The one dude I know who has acid only has microdots right now, but since it's the second time I got some off of him it might just be coincidence. Also, I live in Europe. Think there's a difference in availability of the different forms of acid across continents?


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Kreuzkopf]
    #7433218 - 09/20/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I live on the west coast of the US and all the acid I've gotten in my life was on blank paper cut out by hand. I've never seen a microdot, though I would jump at the chance to try one.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7433340 - 09/20/07 04:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I strongly suspect that my dad currently smokes weed (never caught him in the act). I doubt my mom smokes or has done any drugs, though. When I told them that I had done shrooms, my mom said, "What, you mean like weed?" and I had to stifle a laugh. Even my dad gave her a funny look.

My dad was a teenager living in Torrance, CA, in the early 70s, had long hair and a thick beard. While I know this isn't conclusive, it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he has used psychedelics.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Nasrudin]
    #7433346 - 09/20/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I strongly suspect that my dad currently smokes weed (never caught him in the act).  I doubt my mom smokes or has done any drugs, though.  When I told them that I had done shrooms, my mom said, "What, you mean like weed?" and I had to stifle a laugh.  Even my dad gave her a funny look.

My dad was a teenager living in Torrance, CA, in the early 70s, had long hair and a thick beard.  While I know this isn't conclusive, it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he has used psychedelics.




Wow... your parents sound exactly like mine. :laugh:


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7433377 - 09/20/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Could they be the same person??? :crazy2:


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Nasrudin]
    #7433397 - 09/20/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, long lost brother. Oh the drama!


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7433415 - 09/20/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My parents both used to use psychedelics. I didn't learn about it until I was a teen age kid as they were both decidedly anti drug while they were raising kids.

As I learned later on though they were fans of LSD, my mother has even gone so far as to tell me it is the best drug in existence. Though she insists that it is dangerous today as she is under the impression that acid now is something other than LSD.

I know that around 1970 my father tried moving to California to become a musician and at one point even had a run in with the law after his girlfriend at the time was caught in Miami international with 2 pounds of hash.

By the time my parents had children though they had stopped participating in such things and had created a successful computer graphics business. That was aside from my father smoking marijuana occasionally which my mother put a stop to when I was around the age of five. (I did recognize that smell from somewhere deep in my memory when I first encountered weed.)

Anyhow, the "psychedelic revolution" is certainly nothing which ever ended. It never will end either, the genie is out of the bottle. Drug use was something which has occurred throughout the history of mankind and it will only continue to.

Oh, that reminds me, my father is actually pictured here sometime in the early 70's. It is a pretty stereotypical looking group.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: MrKite1]
    #7433653 - 09/20/07 06:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Although my father never did any psychedelics, he was a big druggie when he was in high school/college, and although he's completely clean now and doesn't like my drug use, he is definitely on the 'pro-legalization' side and has always made it clear that weed is NOT as bad as people make it out to be.
His uncle (or second uncle? Who knows, we just call him uncle) however was a BIG hippie in the 60's, lived in hippie communes and whatnot. Although I never actually discussed psychedelics with him, when he found out I started smoking pot he gave me a call and we had a long talk about it. He still does it, and he's a nurse practitioner, and is VERY responsible with it. Only does it after work, mainly on weekends, not always every day etc. He has told me of his times on the communes though and I'm sooooo envious! Lying on the grass naked, tripping and looking at the clouds..... *dreamy sigh*


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Pootmaster]
    #7434229 - 09/20/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My father told me a story that was pretty good.

He went to URI before going to Brown. He was #1 on the waiting list, they said show up because 10 people wont come and everyone came so he went to URI and pleaded with the Dean to let him in as to avoid the draft. Of course with a 4.2 or something he got in. ANYWAYS.

It was his birthday and there is a room you can rent at the faculty building. He was a huge fan Grateful Dead and a friend of his father was a music producer. So my dad paid a couple hundred dollars for the Grateful Dead to play for about him and 250 other people that he handed flyers out to. Faculty couldn't keep control of the kids and Owsely was there handing out LSD. He said it was one of the craziest trips he's ever had.

He told me it was I was 16 and still to this day swears its true. I've never EVER known my father to lie so I think its a pretty cool story.

He's pretty understandable about LSD and Marijuana. In fact when I grew up he said its the only two drugs I could do as long as I didn't drive. He always told me not to do mushrooms because they could be "poisoned" because of it being a deadly mushroom. I always got told those sort of things, especially from a father with a PHD in medicine.

My mother on the other had is ruthless. She thinks marijuana kills braincells and that alcohol is a much better alternative. She is a nurse and I am surprised of her ignorance, but meh you know how moms are with their teenage boys.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: wireless]
    #7434374 - 09/20/07 09:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i just learned over the summer that my dad is a lot cooler than previously thought. he lives in saudi arabia and after he found out what a huge pot head i am started telling me about smoking hash everyday after work and tripping on shrooms while on vacation on the plane ride from amsterdam to paris so that they wouldnt be taken during customs. last time i saw him he told me some stories of picking in cow fields in florida when he was a teenager and shit.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: elcharrosays]
    #7434399 - 09/20/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My dad had his own apartment in Hait Ashburry from the age of 17 to about 21, and hung out among the musicians crowd. He likes to say that he was a 'true' hippie. That there was sort of a bad side to the hippie crowd as so many of them were in it for themselves (wanting to experience drugs) and weren't really there to help change things for the better. He's never talked about using psychadelics but I know he has, he's talked about smoking a little. When I was pretty young NPR was doing a report on synesthasia and even though my dad had never heard of it before after them only talking about for a little while he was saying all the experiences the reporter would say, right before the reporter would say it. Once the report was done he just said "That's really weird" and sorta sighed.

Unfortunately he's a big business republican asshole now.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #7435144 - 09/21/07 02:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah my dad has used all sorts of drugs and we talk about psychedelics all the time. Although he was never around growing up due to an alcohol problem, I never thought drugs were ever that bad which probably had something to do with my mum who I know has smoked weed and I'm 90% sure she's done psychedelics.

But my dad always tells me stories about his trips and we talk all the time about mystical experiences and how to use lsd/mushroom trips to improve your life.

I think it's really useful to have a parent you can relate to about this sort of stuff and if I ever had kids, although I won't push them to use psychedelics, I'll definitely be there to talk to them about them and making sure they know what to expect.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Yosefxp]
    #7435235 - 09/21/07 03:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

when i was 14 or 15 my dad was talking to me about drugs and i was telling him how i thought they were all stupid, and he said "i don't know, mushrooms will make you see god" and i kind of ignored it and forgot about it till is started using mushrooms.

other than that i have no clue. i have a suspicion both of my parents were hippies at one time, and i think my mom had a really bad trip that made her afraid of psychedelics (she thinks acid is like the worst thing i could do when i told her about it it she screamed at my why couldn't i just smoke weed and drink like other kids)


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7435257 - 09/21/07 03:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You guys make me laugh. I love the long lost brother Idea!! Heheh.

Yeah my Dad and Mom didnt talk about drugs EVER. Untill of course I got fucked up on mushrooms when I was in school in te U.S. and decided to call my Dad and talk to him while tripping, about the fact that I understood the meaning of it all, and that we are all part of the universal oneness and that we ARE GOD, blah blah. He listened carefully, and then told me to be careful and later told me he thought I was a megalomaniac, and still calls me that to this day.

After, he started talking to me about his weed and hash smoking days (He hasnt done anything else). He didnt smoke much for sure, and tried to show off about him growing a (1!) plant (then I found out from his friends that he was only babysitting it for a friend for a week). Funny coz at school I had several huge plants growing in my dorm suite!

Ive obviously done much more than he has, but its interesting for sure knowing that they have done some of their own. Recently my Dad has gotten into smoking hash and weed and shit again, I feel like I should give him some shrooms if he wants them, but I doubt hed be ok, he has anxiety and panic attack issues, plus heart problems. When I was a kid he had freaked his shit and started hallucinating with "bhang" (look it up) and had to go to the hospital coz of heart palpitations.

I think its really quite nice to know that these experieces have definitely had an impact on our parents, and even though some of the them wont condone it, they can be quite helpful as sounding boards for us, helping us get beyond where they did with their experiences.

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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: gmuralid]
    #7435321 - 09/21/07 04:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This thread reminds me of something that happened to me when I was about 10 years old. I was out walking around some near by woods and pastures with one of my fathers long haired friends. He bent over and picked some mushrooms to show me. After pinching the stem he told me that "if they turn blue they are okay to eat." This didn't mean much to me then but I figured it out some years later.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: MrKite1]
    #7435419 - 09/21/07 05:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

wel my mums like 52 now, and was an art student in her late teens. i know she used to smoke a bit of green, and when i was about 15 she told me about this one time she did mush at a christmas party, she said after like half an hour she got wierd tunnel vision and had to puke. she didnt elaborate on the rest of the trip.
but i know she went to see the dead one time.

my dad however i would be very surprised if hes ever even smoked weed.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Littleman]
    #7435509 - 09/21/07 06:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

my pops was worse the Hunter Thompson. dam newfies


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: gmuralid]
    #7435516 - 09/21/07 06:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My dad told me that he smoked massive amounts of marijuana during his Junior year; said he was high every day.

He also told me about his one experience with LSD, which involved the hands on a clock rolling backwards and a ship that came out of the T.V. and sailed around on his living room floor.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Littleman]
    #7435525 - 09/21/07 07:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah my dad went to The Dead several times, and Jefferson Airplane.

My mom I think was one of those hippies that didn't get hippies. Talking to her about drugs is almost embarassing. She'll say things like "I expiremented with marijuana in college, but I didn't see the big deal."
And I asked her once if my dad had done acid (I already knew I wanted to see what she said) and she said "Well I wouldn't be suprised considering the crowd he hung out with. But he obviously didn't like it much because he didn't make a habit out of it." And from knowing my mom she was talking about being addicted to LSD. That was the day I knew to never listen to my mom about drugs.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #7438340 - 09/21/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting to see I'm not alone.

I just thought it was interesting. Though I was afraid of drugs and the people who used them when I was younger, LSD always held a certain mystique. Any time I heard something somebody experienced on it (usually in print or second-hand, as I was generally not in contact with people who used drugs of any kind until much later on), it sounded absolutely fascinating, though I told myself I would never do it because it was drugs and it was scary. But by the time I began experimenting with weed I already kind of knew LSD was coming someday.

When I finally started tripping (on mushrooms rather than LSD, ironically), it felt more like an affirmation than something truly new. The experiences were completely shocking and mind-boggling to me, but at the same time it was something I felt (on some level) for my whole life had been coming. I can't help but wonder if any generation has experienced psychedelics this way since the Mesoamericans of old who grew up in civilizations where psychedelics were regarded as divine, mystical, and a rite of passage into adulthood and deeper understanding of the universe and the self. I see convergence.

What do you guys think? Am I making too big a deal out of this?


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7438656 - 09/21/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I have found that my father and I have the same reactions to drugs. I get really anxious and weird on weed. It makes my heart race, and I over analyze everything that I do or have done. Almost the exact opposite of the experience my friends explain. My sister talked to my dad about drugs and she told me how he didn't smoke weed that much because it made him depressed, and I think that was just his short way of explaining what I have felt. He also told of how he did shrooms one time and went to a beach and just chilled there and said it was a great experience. Seems like we have the same reaction to drugs, which is the reason why I shall do my very very best to never touch coke (he was an addict at one point).

My mom on the other hand was a pothead for a long time. Seems like my sister took on her characteristics.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7438665 - 09/21/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This year my father finally kinda came out and told me about his drug use. Recently we have been getting pretty drunk together and a few years ago he found out i use mushrooms. My mom caught me drying a batch, and she simply told me "be carefull". I always thought it was because she didnt want me to poision myself or the like.

Well about 6 months ago, i was at my sisters and my folks were there, i had some bud, so i twisted up a tater and walked out on the back porch and lit it up. Seconds later the whole house seemed to walk outside, and my drunk dad was with them. At this point i was on the conner of the porch, and my sister blabs out that im smoking pot. My dad said he knew that and he usherd me over and asked me to pass it to him. Thus is the first time i have ever smoked pot with my dad. I am the youngest of four, and the ONLY one to ever smoke with him. Even at my brothers batchler party, he refused to smoke.

Anywho, a few weeks ago i was smoking and he came out and joined me, and we got to talking. Well evedently he was pretty deep into mushrooms and pot. He would get gallon bags of freeze dried mushrooms, and he an my mom would trip for days on end. One time he was at work, he was a mechanic, and he and my mom were tripping hard, so he went in with her, and his boss put him on the simplest job they had, a brake change. It took him over eight hours for a three hour job, that he didnt finish, with my mom sitting in the cornner trying to keep him and her somewhat focused. To this day my mom will not eat mushrooms, i always wonderd why, and know i know.

Another story, we were and still are somewhat on the less weathy side of life. Well back when i was still two cells, my folks would get hand me down clothes from a really good friend of theirs. Their frien had a few kids and my siblings would get there used clothes. Well, a few years passed and that friend was busted and is now serving a life sentance. I still dont beleve mt dad, but evedently, this guy had about 2,000 pounds of pot, and after he was convicted, his house was converted into the county police officers rec center. Two pools, spa, tennis court, baskeball court, ect, ect. Oh and while they are enjoying his stuff, hes serving life in jail, no parole.

Another note worth mention, they both grew up in Mass. were high school sweet hearts, and married at 20. They decided to take a road trip to california, packed all there stuff and left. Well they ran out of gas money in the colorado rockies, where the preciding events had taken place. And these arent the only tales, he wont tell me the rest. I mean he looked me dead in the eye and said, "I cant tell you any more, I wont, there are just some thing you will not be privy too." So i have no real idea how much stuff he was into, but i have a feeling, it was ALOT. He still


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    #7771501 - 12/17/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: EarthboundBob]
    #7771591 - 12/17/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have a ton a blotter art hanging on my walls.... I wonder at what age my kids will go WTF?????


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: mr_pat]
    #7771642 - 12/17/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My dad gave me his Terrence Mckenna books.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: gmuralid]
    #7771692 - 12/17/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Both my parents were strong users of pot back in the day and still smoke on occassion today. My dad has tried Coke, Mescaline(not high enough dose), and shrooms(didnt work). My aunt was a crack head and used to call my mom saying she thought aliens were out for her and that they had taken her clothes haha!


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: mr_pat]
    #7771794 - 12/17/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My mom used to smoke pot on occasion in college.
She says it made her laugh uncontrolably and made her very horny.

My dad has smoked the herb his whole life and still loves it to this day. He had never even seen dank weed before I showed him my senior year of highschool. Thats because he only knew shitty drug dealers who sold crap weed and coke, which he bought in excess for a number of years.
When he comes to visit I help him get some nice danks.
He tried lsd his freshman year of college and says he would never take it again. He took WAY too damn much for a first time dose. He says that he basically got lost in his own neighborhood, and the houses were shrinking and growing like plant life.
He helped me grow shrooms when I still lived at home (community college). He ate primordia off some of my cakes and I had to bitch him out in a nice sort of way, basically telling him why that is one of the dumbest things I have experienced in my life.
He loved that super low dose though.
I tripped with him one day.
He is a very smart man but we did not mix well when tripping.
He wanted to watch tv and had no attention span.
He treated it like afew beers, or a smoking session.
So I split.
It was just more of the same, and that was a bit unexpected.
He is a very articulate man. He just sort of became more child-like.
Like his id took over as he watched this shitty comedy about cheerleaders, go figure.

As it turns out he had one hell of a trip eventually, and he knew why I left.
We wont ever trip together again.
His second psychedelic wind was kind of cool though, for he and myself.
There is no way he could take more than 2.5 grams.
He really liked it.

He LOVES salvia. He just needs a kick in the ass and a short trip to get anywhere in psychedelic space.
He apparently has a really hard time with any mushroom dose above 2 grams.
Thats why I wish I had not split at the 2.5 hour mark the only time we ever tripped together.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: yageman]
    #7772136 - 12/17/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My parents were definitely not involved in the "psychedelic revolution". My mom was raised seventh-day adventist in a small town in Appalachia where no one really knew anything about psychedelic or really any other drug for that matter besides alcohol and marijuana. If you heard about someone who had tried cocaine or some kind of mind-bending hallucinogenic/psychedelic drug is was a pretty big thing, very rare did it happen.

I have reason to believe that my dad possibly used alcohol and cocaine a lot in his younger days, as he grew up in Colombia and the stuff is everywhere to be found. Heroin is everywhere there too but I doubt he dabbled in it. I don't believe that he has ever used any psychedelics, but he grew up in a region very close to the shamanic cultures of the amazonian rainforest and Peru, and knew of the people and their use of the entheogenic plants that grew there.

That's as close as my family(with the exception of myself) has gotten to psychedelics: ayahuasca. My father didn't know it specifically by name, but he knew of the shamanic brew when I spoke to him about it and exactly what it did. The drink itself and the practices of the surrounding south american natives are pretty much ignored or not taken seriously in the more populated areas,however. So he never really got close enough to it to care or experience it, that kind of stuff is like wierd magic/voodoo to the people that live in the city, and they don't really care about it or mess with it. Besides, all anyone cared about was partying and alcohol anyway where he grew up...


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Robo]
    #7772352 - 12/18/07 12:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Last summer my parents found the beginning of my first attempt at growing mushrooms and they freaked out. They thought I was trying to grow pot and typically I would lie to spare myself the trouble, but I just decided that it's pointless to lie so I might as well tell them. I had only tripped once before that but I told them I hadn't done mushrooms before and I wanted to grow them so I knew that I wasn't buying poisonous shrooms (obviously not the complete truth). My parents were both straight edge in their younger years, neither of them ever tried pot and didn't drink until they were legal. I guess i should've told them that I had tripped once before and it was a wonderful experience, but they were so freaked out that I think that would have made things worse. They probably would have thought I was "heading down the wrong path" or something because they are completely clueless when it comes to these things. I want to tell them that I enjoy tripping and the psychedelic experience and that it can be insightful and even beneficial, but I just don't think that they will ever be able to relate. My dad's a doctor and my mom got her phd as well, they are both very intelligent people, but I don't think that they would have an open mind about this. It sucks that I have to hide it from them but I feel like I can't do anything about it. I know when I'm a father I won't mention drugs to my children, but if I ever find out about them smoking pot, or doing psychedelic drugs I will talk to them about it and be honest with my experiences with it. I wish my parents could just be open minded and hear me out, but I know that they will never accept it no matter how much I explain.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7772456 - 12/18/07 12:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My mom once told me when I was younger that my dad had used LSD at a concert and thought he was in the sky, walking on clouds.

One day, I brought up psychedelics to my dad, and this is the response I got: "People just use that shit so that they can roll around on the floor and laugh and scream alot, then laugh it off later."

I don't really know what to make of that.


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